Topic started by vyaas (@ bellatrix.anonymizer.com) on Mon May 10 22:44:14 EDT 1999.
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I see many people praise neethyashree but how much shes better compared to pavathaarini?Pavathaarini has the most innocent,fresh voice among the newsingers today, whereas neethyashree know only to shout. Listen to 'kadal meethu' or 'kanmaneekku vaaltu chollum', pavathaarini is excellent.
Please let me know your opinions
Responses:
- From: Isaiperarinjar (@ proxy.qatar.net.qa)
on: Tue May 11 01:10:59 EDT 1999
THis subject itself is ironical. How can u compare first of all a great carnatic artiste and a so ordinary playbacksinger (that too came to limelight because of influence).
please, comeon with more interesting subjects
- From: Raja Fan (@ spider-th041.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue May 11 01:45:44 EDT 1999
I like Pavathaarini and she has excellent potential. I wish her luck. She needs some more voice training and she will be like SP Shailaja, my favorite singer
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-72-98.sprint.ca)
on: Tue May 11 04:34:27 EDT 1999
Well let's put it this way
Nityashree is an established singer. She doesn't need TFM to attain fame. She has had opportunities to show her talent.
I think Bhavatharani is trapped inside this cage because her father and brothers are also MD's. So if she sang for others, people will critize that and if she sang for only her family, people will also critize that. But if she builds up her musical knowledge, I think that she will come out successfully in the end.
Although I don't really like any of her film songs till date, I was mesmerized by a song she sang in praise of 'ramani munivar'. It's a haunting song and I gotta tell you, I was totally mesmerized.
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Tue May 11 04:35:12 EDT 1999
daler mehendi & piyush soni -who's the best????
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-72-98.sprint.ca)
on: Tue May 11 05:02:22 EDT 1999
Can you give tell us who they are first?
- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Tue May 11 11:33:59 EDT 1999
I think Bhavadhaarini (is there another singer called "paavadhaarini"?) is the best playback singer ever, except for certain minor deficiencies.
1. Her sruthi is not consistent.
2. Her voice has pisuru at rndom.
3. Her expression or absence thereof is very consistent.
4. She would'nt even be a chorus singer if she was not IR's daughter.
5. She has spoiled many good songs of IR, and for IR to use her continuously it is 'vinaasha kaalEy vipareetha budhdhi'.
Apart from all of this, she is also the favorite of Raja Fan, whose tastes I want to keep track - to know what/whom to avoid, like Bhavadhaarini avoids good singing.
- From: rajaG_fan (@ stagfw.thehartford.com)
on: Tue May 11 11:59:58 EDT 1999
rajaG,
ROTFL ;-)))))
- From: Mr.Kuzapam (@ 206.139.13.152)
on: Tue May 11 12:56:29 EDT 1999
If ask who the worst among singers -- My first tought would be Baavadaranee, RajaG is 200% correct, 'vinaasha kaalEy vipareetha budhdhi' this applies very much to her father.
- From: Vimal (@ lib-vr-001.lib.asu.edu)
on: Tue May 11 13:07:32 EDT 1999
Vyaas,
Nice to see that you're in a "Responsible" position of starting a thread.
I hate the voice of Nithyashreeand her style. If anyone has heard the song "Poove.." from PVK, it can be easily said that she's struggled to sing
even the first line. She's gasping to finish even one line. No flow at all. I wonder why people trouble both TFM and these singers by making them sing in movies.
Now that ARR has used her in his songs and so has YSK, our Deva will follow suit. Look at the volume of his films, I'm happy I'm in the US.
- From: Vimal (@ lib-vr-001.lib.asu.edu)
on: Tue May 11 13:07:43 EDT 1999
Vyaas,
Nice to see that you're in a "Responsible" position of starting a thread.
I hate the voice of Nithyashreeand her style. If anyone has heard the song "Poove.." from PVK, it can be easily said that she's struggled to sing
even the first line. She's gasping to finish even one line. No flow at all. I wonder why people trouble both TFM and these singers by making them sing in movies.
Now that ARR has used her in his songs and so has YSK, our Deva will follow suit. Looking at the volume of his films, I'm happy I'm in the US.
- From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com)
on: Tue May 11 14:05:52 EDT 1999
NithyaShree definetly struggled to sing Poova Poova in PVK. She can be termed as an average singer with a long way to go in playback singing.
- From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com)
on: Tue May 11 14:34:53 EDT 1999
Nithyashree has some flaws. But, in no way can Bavatharini be even compared with her. I too agree with RajaG's comments. IMO, Bavatharini's only strength is she is daughter of the maestro.
- From: Sriram (@ cfp118069.det.hfh.edu)
on: Tue May 11 16:33:25 EDT 1999
I cannot control my laughter after reading RajaG's posting on Bhava. Absolutely true.
It is just atrocious to compare these two. It is also quite true that Nithyashree does not control her voice, shouts now and then, most importantly, is unable to complete one phrase and has taken lots of pauses in that Poova poova song. Still, she is infinite times better than Bhava.
- From: SPAM (@ portal.ameritech.com)
on: Tue May 11 16:57:08 EDT 1999
Nityashree has done a good job in poovapoovapoova poova poov a po ooo ve, oove. By the way, what is YSR doing, trying to say Chhaiyya, chhaiyya, in Tamil? This is exactly twin songs. What is this, I say.
- From: vyaas (@ bellatrix.anonymizer.com)
on: Tue May 11 21:40:11 EDT 1999
vimal what you mean by 'responsible position'to start a thread??Should i have to be your president clinton to do so -ROFL
- From: Srinath (@ 98aac279.ipt.aol.com)
on: Tue May 11 23:09:31 EDT 1999
uh-oh, looks like someone's attempt at a pathetic joke backfired BADLY :-) Vyaas, I guess it's too late for you to reveal this thread as a spoof ! You'd be earning the ire of many here ! Like neruppu said, the next time you want to be sarcastic, give us advance warning :-)
- From: Mathan (@ 24.64.163.106.on.wave.home.com)
on: Wed May 12 00:30:18 EDT 1999
Why is it have to be between Bava and Nithya?
How about Harini(my fav) or Anuratha Sriram.
I think Harini is the best of the pack, considering, her latest Suthi Suthi Vanthiga from Padaiappa and Thathiyaaduthey from En Swasa Kaatrae
- From: G.Suresh (@ begis50.swift.com)
on: Wed May 12 11:12:08 EDT 1999
Come on guys all of you are critizing Bava, Comparing the background of Nithyasree a pure classical singer and Bava is not matured yet as a frontline singer,still I think Bava has done nice work in more than couple of songs atleast. I like the following songs
1.Alai meedhu - Kadhal Kavidhai
2.PoonKatre - Kizhakkum Merkkum
3.Oru thulir - Thodarum
4.illaiya nilave - Ponnu VeettuKaran
though she is not having much variation in her singing,Hope she should be alright in coming days
- From: chandy (@ 209.125.83.228)
on: Wed May 12 14:04:26 EDT 1999
Suresh,
If inspite of bhavadharini, the songs you have mentioned are good, imagine how better they'd be if Harini/Anu Sriram/Swarnalatha sung them!!
Tell me some positive points and qualities of Bhavadharini as a singer. RajaG put it all in nutshell about why shes "good".
chandy
- From: G.Suresh (@ begis50.swift.com)
on: Wed May 12 14:40:16 EDT 1999
Chandy,
Though I don't have any specific positive point or quality attribute to Bhava's singing , overall I like some of the songs sung by her just because of her different and unique voice. I also see lots of improvement in her singing compared to her first song "Mastana Mastana" as she used to have very childish voice on that song. I likey very much "Sangeedha thiruNallo" from KM where she fits in very much more than Harini/Anu Sriram/Swarnalatha.Some minor positive points also I can think of in her singing is how ever high pitch she sings she maintains her voice I mean "She is not having Keechu koral" at high pitch. Her pronounciation is also very good.
- From: Vimal (@ 129.219.38.215)
on: Wed May 12 21:10:45 EDT 1999
But Suresh,
TFM is not a field for practice. We need experts here. It's a crime if Bhava gets a song which out to have gone to Chitra.
IMHO all TFM needs is just 4-5 singers.
Chitra, SJ and Sujatha are the female singers.
SPB, Mano and KJY ( if not, MGS).
- From: chandy (@ 209.125.83.228)
on: Thu May 13 11:37:25 EDT 1999
Suresh, for the minor positive points you mentioned, anyone singing in TV-shows or music orchestras would fit the bill. The sole qualification of Bhava is that shes daughter of maestro and nothing else. There are so many better singers (have you seen the program Colgate Saptha Swarangal in Sun TV?) who havent been lucky to get an opportunity and Bhava is definitely not better than many of them.
chandy
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon May 17 02:58:55 EDT 1999
pavathaarini/NeetyaShree whos the best??
indha title-ilEyE vyaas niRaya podi vachchirukkaar.
Things to note:
1. who's better? illai; but who's best?. This automatically means others are nowhere
in contention. idhai paarththu godhippadaindha
vERu oruththar, Who is your favourite singer?
Give reasons endru azhuththamaaga oru
thread aarambiththadhu ellOrukkum therinja vishayam!
2. The first singer's name is given in lower case
while the second singer's name is given with two
caps. That gives an idea of vyaas's choice.
3. NeetyaShree endru ezhudhiyadhukku kaaraNam: avar neetti izhuththu paaduvadhil
specialist! :-)))
Leaving jokes aside, my vote is for BavadhaariNi.
avar paadiya idhu sangeedha thiruNaaLO is
one of my favourites. voice konjam bland-aaga
irundhaalum there is some attraction in her voice.
Nityashree's voice in that padayappa song was
pretty bad, I thought. By any chance, does the movie
situation demand such a singing? Someone who has seen
the movie, please clarify. Has she sung any other
song apart from this and kaNNOdu kaaNbadhellaam?
- From: neruppu (@ beecher25.bch.uc.edu)
on: Mon May 17 17:07:01 EDT 1999
Vyaasa munivarae,
kinaru vetta bhoodham kilambina kathai kelvi pattirukkeengala neenga?-))
SK,good insights! another reason why vyaasji might have started this: maybe he thinks both of them are equally bad!
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.8)
on: Mon May 17 22:34:11 EDT 1999
SK - Nithyasri has sung pretty well for Yuvan Shankar Raja in Poovellaam Kettupaar. The song is Poova poova poova poovey X 4 .... Poovey unnai nesiththien.
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