Topic started by Amma's Thambee (@ 202.54.43.144) on Fri Jun 19 02:45:30 EDT 1998.
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Kannadasan has written songs which profound meanings and a moral in every song.
ever since his death, there has been no one to take his mantle.His every song conveyed a meaning, something could be learnt from his lyrics.
But the situation has changed a lot now.
could this be attributed that the lyricists now are incapable of wriiting such songs or its the audience who dont want to hear those kind of lyrics?
could this be attributed to western influence on Indian Culture?
Hey wake up guys! What happend to Tamil culture, culture of India?
I would like to hear the responses from the makkal of tfm.
Responses:
- From: Krishnan (@ 202.54.33.94)
on: Fri Jun 19 07:24:17 EDT 1998
Kannadasan was great lyricist by no means. No TFM lyricist has come near him . Vairamuthu has shown flashes of brilliance but on the whole Kannadasan songs are miles ahead.
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Fri Jun 19 10:27:55 EDT 1998
I've posted some of this in the Why no female MD's/lyricists.....What about VISHALI KANNADASAN....Isn't she in the same field? Why does she not step into his shoes? I'm not so clued up, but as she's supposed to be talented, I wonder why she's not doing lyrics.....Please comment. Thanks.
- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate6.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 12:24:25 EDT 1998
Kannadhasan avargaL oru amara kavi. avarin idaththai N-irappa endha oru kavinjanalum mudiyadhu. Vaali avargaL Kannadhasan aaLvukku illai endralum N-alla padalgaLai tharukirar. Vairamuththuvai KaNNadhasanodu oppiduvadhu Everest engira Kannadhasanai, Thodabetta engira VM-odu oppiduvatharkku sammagum. VM-in 'chinna chinna aasai','kadhal rojavE..', 'putham pudhu boomi vEndum','kANNukku mai azhagu...' padalgaLai ketta podhu innoru KaNNadhasan kidaiththuvittan endru eNNinEn. adhu ellam thavidu podiyagivittadhu. English kalandhu pattu ezhuthuvathu thavarillai. aanaal thevai padum podhu mattumE upayokkikka vEndum. VM varthaigaLukku thadumari English sorgaLai podukirar. Pulamai Piththan, Na.Kamarasan, Muththulingam ivargaL eppodhavadhu N-alla padalgaL ezhukirargaL. ippodhu ivargaL ezhuthuvadhE illai. ippadi N-ilamai irukkaiyil
KaNNadhasanin idaththai N-irappa KaNNadhasanE thriumbip prindhalthan uNdu.
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Fri Jun 19 14:53:20 EDT 1998
Bharathiyaar had Bharathithaasan to carry on his legacy. Bharathithaasan had Suratha (Subburathinathaasan)to carry on his legacy. Kannathaasan, himself being a thaasan, has made sure no one can emulate him even in name.
- From: Kanchana (@ spider-wa051.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 17:52:14 EDT 1998
Here is a quote which partially addresses this topic:
"kalaiyin mugaththaik kAyappaduththi vidAmal Ayiram vetRigaLai aLLik kuviththArgaLE andha munnOdigaLai vaNakkaththOdu ninaiththuk koLLa vEndiyirukkiRadhu.
vAzhum thalaimuRaikku thamizh katRuk koduththa vasanangaLaiyum, ilakkiyam katRuk koduththa pAdalgaLaiyum kaNNeerOdu gnAbagam koLLa vENdum pOlirukkiRadhu.
aduththa thalaimuRaiyaip patRi achchamAiyirukkiRadhu.
rasanai mARi irukkiRadhu enbadhu poi. rasanai mAtRappattirukkiRadhu.
rasanai enbadhu mAtRap paduvadhRkuriyadhuthAn enil, ippOdhirukkum rasanai muRaiyai mAtRi amaippadhu kalai mEdhaigaLin kadamai."
The originator of this quote--(gasp!)--vairamuththu. Isn't it ironical that vairamuththu, who has been an integral part of the process of creating the current tastes, would say such a thing? :-)
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Jun 19 20:55:37 EDT 1998
Krishnan - You have started this topic at the most appropriate time. Today (20 June)is the birthday of the much respected Kaviarasu. Those who are able to tune in to Malaysia's Radio 6, be prepared for a huge feast. :-)))
- From: murali (@ pm8-dbq153.dubuque.net)
on: Fri Jun 19 23:56:22 EDT 1998
Here is the link to a write-up on Kaviarasu in Thinaboomi. Mylai font required.
http://www.indiadirect.com/thinaboomi/jun20-98/J20-018.htm
- From: Amma's thambee (@ 202.54.43.165)
on: Sat Jun 20 04:44:08 EDT 1998
oops! what a response to the topic that I have statred.heheh.For a newbie like this this encourages.The thing i noticed is that most of the makkal of tfm have accepted that there is no one to replace the great Kaviarasu Kannadasan.
I pray thank god for the fact that it is not the people who have changed , but it is the lyricista who have changed and are unable still to make an impact upon us!!
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Sat Jun 20 08:42:34 EDT 1998
A few days ago, I had posted the following in the
'Sivaji Ganesan' thread. The latest Kungumam has
viewers' comments on this. I have posted those below.
--------------------------------------------------
Looks like Sivaji Ganesan decided to open his
mouth wide-out this year. Recently there was a
grand function in Singapore to honour his great
achievements in acting. People like KB, BR, VM,
SowcarG, SDevi, Deva, Hariharan, AnuSriram...
all showed-up. At the end of the function, in his
speech, here is one of the things that he said:
vairamE, muththE! nee mattum kaNNadhaasanukku munbu
piRandhirundhaal kaNNadhaasanai minjiyiruppaay!
ippOdhum kuRaindhu vidavillai. avarai jeyiththuk
koNdudhaan irukkiRaay.
It seems there were many who felt very uncomfortable
with this comment. Later, during dinner some
approached SivajiG and asked him: enna Sir,
neenga Vairamuththuvai Kannadhasanudan oppittup
pEsiyadhu saridhaanaa? To this, the great
actor answered: naan enna poyyaa sonnEn? avan
senjittu irukkiRadhaiththaanE sonnEn. ena manasil
irukkiRadhaiththaan sonnEn.
Folks, what do you think about SivajiG's comment?
-------------------------------------------------------
The Kungumam issue of 19th June 98 has the following...
The cover has Kamal's photo with the headline:
Vairamuththuvukku vakkAlAththu vaangukiRAr Kamalhasan
Inside:
kadandha idhazhil 'Kannadhasan-ai Vairamuththu jeyiththu
vittaar' endru Singapore vizhaavil Sivaji pEsiyadhai
veLiyittirundhOm. idhazh veLiyaanadhilirundhu aluvalagaththiRkku
EraaLamaana phone call-gaL. sila thOLil thatti. sila adhatti.
kUdavE EraaLa vaasagarkaLin kadidhangaLum vandhukoNdE
irukkindrana.
aarOkkiyamaana oru vivaadhaththiRkku poruththamaana
vishayam idhu endru karudhi seydhi veLiyittadhin viLaivu?
Kannadhasan paasaRaiyai sErndhavargaL, VM vaasagargaL, thavira
podhuvaana thiraiyisai paadal virumbigaL endru palar namadhu
aluvalagaththiRkkE vandhu vivaadhiththuvittup pOgiRArgaL.
Kamalhasan:
idhuppatri vimarsanam seyvadhO, karuththu solvadhO en nOkkamillai.
Kaviyarasu Kannadhasan purindha perumpaalaana ilakkiyap paNigaLai
VM-um aatri varugiRAr. paththirikkai nadaththuvadhaith thavira.
iruvarumE ilakkiyaththilum thiraip paattilum mEdaip pEchchilum
kodi kattiyavargaL. num kaalaththin mahaa kalainjar Sivaji enbadhilum
maaperum kavinjar amarar Kannadhasan enbadhilum yaarukkum karuththu
vERupaadillai. ingE, pazhaya thalaimuRai pudhiya thalaimuRaiyai
angeekarikkum pOdhu iraNdu thalaimuRaigaLum perumai peRugindrana.
dEy, indhiyaavilEyE nee oruththandhaaNdaa nadigan endru ennai
Sivaji angeekariththa pOdhuthaan enakkup perumai kidaiththadhu.
VM-in thurathrishtam avarai angeegarikka vENdiya mahaakavinjar adhaich
cheyyum munbE amararaagivittaar. enavE, Kaviyarasu Kannadhasan
tharavENdiya vaazhththu Sivaji Sir vazhiyaaga adaindhirukkiRadhu.
idhil vetri thOlvi endra pEchchukkE idamillai. vaazhththuvadhu enbadhu
ingE uNarchchiyaal alangaaramaagiyirukkiRadhu endrudhaan naan
ninaikkiREn.
Gandhi Kannadhasan:
karuththu solla nadigar thilagaththiRkku urimai uNdu. kaalam
theermaaniththuvitta ondrai ivar saaNiyaik kaiyilEndhi adiththu
vittadhaaga ninaiththuk koNdu than meedhE poosik koNdirukkiRAr.
kaviyarasarin paadalgaLaal Sivaji-yin padangaL Odiyadhu uNdu.
paadalaik kEttE idhu enna kaatchi, idhai Sivaji eppadi seydhu iruppaar
endru kaNmun niRkum. nadippin ilakkaNam Sivaji-dhaan. kavidhaiyin
ilakkaNam Kannadhasan-dhaan. nadippinaal paadalukkum paadalinaal
nadippiRkkum indha iruvarumE ilakkaNam vaguththavargaL. oru paadalai
vaanoliyil kEtkum pOdhu andha thiraippadak kaatchi kaNmun varukiRadhu.
idhudhaan Kannadhasan kaNda vetri. indha paadalthaan padam paarththu
mudiththu pala maadhangaLukkup pinnum Sivaji-yai ninaikka vaikkiRadhu.
Kannadhasanum VM-um iraNdu kavinjargaL. ivargaLadhu padaippugaLai
vimarsanam seyvadhu muRai. yaarudaya puththagangaL adhigamaaga
viRkindrana, yaar ulagam muzhuvadhum paravi varum Internet, CD,
Digital Audio pOndra maaRivarum thuRaigaLil paravi irukkiRAr enbadhudhaan
yaar yaar engirukkiRAr enbadhai theermaanikkiRadhu. Thamizh kooRum
nallulagaththiRkku indha sOdhanaigaLai vittuvidugindrEn. kaalaththaal
azhiyaadhadhu kavinjanin ezhuththu. aanaal maaRivarum maatrangaLaiyum
edirkoNdaalthaan avanadhu ezhuththukkaL vaazhum. iLaya thalaimuRaigaLaiyum
badhikkak koodiyavan edhirkaalaththiRkku uramaagindraan. Kaviyarasaradhu
indha paadal vari indha sarchchaikku mutrup puLLi vaikkum..
aattuviththaal yaaroruvar aadaadhaarE kaNNaa
aasai enum thottililE aadaadhaarE kaNNaa
Ka.RamalingaJothi: (Thalaivar, Kannadhasan paasaRai)
janaadhipathy pOl sambaadhiththu indhiyaa pOl kadan vaangi
irundhaal piRar uNNak koduththu, illaavittaal naNbargaLidam kaiyEndhi,
naattukkum veettukkum paadal ezhudhiyavan Kaviyarasu Kannadhasan.
paaluNarviRkkuk kooda ilakkiya andhaSththu thandhavan Kaviyarasu.
"paniththuLi ondru sippiyil vizhundhu vandhadhu muththu en mannavan
soththu" endra paadalai ikkaalak kavinjargaL "sindhiya veNmaNi
sippiyil muththaachchu en kaNNammaa" endru maatriyamaiththanar.
than paadalaal prabalamaanavargaL nandri kollum seyalil eedu
paduvaargaL enbadhai uNarndhu andraikkE kavi jnaani Kannadhasan
ezhudhivaiththaan: "ondri sErndha naNbargaL silaraal satru
maRaippilum azhudhEn..." uL manaththilum naan azhudhEn. (idhu
nadigar thilagaththin meedhuLLa kObaththaal uNmaiyil varundhi
ezhudhiyadhu.)
uNmaiyil andru thamizhai pizhaikka vaiththa Kaviyarasu Kannadhasan,
oru pOdhum thaan thamizhai vaazha vaiththadhaaga garviththu maar
thattik koLLavillai. "thaththuvam mattumE atchaya paaththiram-
un vaay, vaarththai, udambu thodaadhu; koLvOr koLga; kuraippOr kuraikka;
naanE thodakkam; naanE mudivu; naan uraippadhudhaan naattin sattam.."
endru sonna Kannadhasan nirandharamaanavan; endrum azhivadhillai.
T. Satyanarayanan:
MS-ai PSusheela jeyiththuvittaar endru sonnaal SusheelavO,
Kannadhasanai jeyiththuvittaar VM endru sonnaal VM'O kooda
nichchayam oppukkoLLa maattaargaL.
There are many more letters...
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-td024.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Jun 20 16:06:53 EDT 1998
Amma's Thambee:
Can Kannadhaasan be replaced ?
We need to go back in Time! :-))
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