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Film Songs and sequences that would make good Music Videos

Topic started by Srinath (@ socks14d.raleigh.ibm.com) on Fri Jul 17 16:13:54 EDT 1998.
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I was just wondering about the usefulness of songs in movies and felt that in most cases the picturisation did not complement the songs. However, there appear to be some song sequences which stand apart by their depiction of the song in progress. Most of these would have songs in the background, I guess. But their might also be some where the hero and heroine singing makes sense to the movie and the lyrics. Care to help me build a comprehensive list ?

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• From: Srinath (@ socks14d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Fri Jul 17 16:44:44 EDT 1998
  
  Let me start with my list -
  
  1. Kallelam Nogudhadi - En Bommakutti Ammavukku
  2. Valai Osai - Sathya
  3. Paruvamae - Nenjathai Killadhe
  4. Vennilave Venilave - Minsaara Kanavu
  
  and more to follow...
  
  
• From: Bharat (@ isdbsd1-inet.ci.mil.wi.us) on: Fri Jul 17 16:48:36 EDT 1998
  
  Srinath:
  
  A prime depictor of "mood songs" is Balu Mahendra. I haven't seen much of his newer work, but from his older films, the following songs are in the background of the action:
  
  pOOvaNNam pOla nenjam -- azhiyaadha kOlangaL
  pOOngaaRRu pudhiraanadhu -- mOOnRam piRai
  rAjanOdu rANi vandhu -- sathi leelavathi
  rAja rAja chOzhan nAn -- rettaivAl kuruvi
  vaLayosai kalakala -- sathyA (dir: Suresh Krishna)
  
  I guess peoples' definition of "well-picturized" is different, but I found the above to be really well done; they are love songs that show playful interaction between the protagonists and not PT exercise-style dances.
  
  Another great set of mood songs is from nAyakan: "nEE oru kAdhal sangEEtham" and "andhi mazhai mEgam". Another good ManiRathnam song is pOOmAlayE thOL sEravAA from "pagal nilavu" (though there's a shot of Murali and Revathi neck deep in water that's very similar to a shot in Norma Rae :-()
  
  A classic example of hero-heroine singing AND making situational sense is in vaRumayin niRam sivappu: the "thandhana thathana" song is really a game of one-upmanship between them.
  
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ socks14d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Fri Jul 17 17:07:33 EDT 1998
  
  Actually almost all the songs from Anjali would qualify as competent Music Videos, but I felt they were kind of out-of-place in the movie, except perhaps the title song.
  
  Poovanam really touched off a chord in my heart Bharat ! What a beautifully different song. If I remember right, that was the only song in the movie - perhaps I am mistaken. But the mood created by the movie was at its most effective during that song :-)
  
  Another reasonably good example of hero-heroine-singing-and-still-not-appearing-absurd is the song from Mudhal Mariyadhai - Poongatru thirumbuma
  
  MR again - Manram vandha thendralukku from Mouna Raagam
  
  Sendhoorapoove - 16 vayadhinile
  
  And another one of my whopper favourites ! -
  "Ithazhil Kadhai Ezhudum" from Unnal Mudiyum Thambi. But the sequence is a little too 'fantastic' (as in fantasy-like) for a song of that calibre.
  
  Sindhu Bhairavi - Mogham ennum theeyil... sivakumar singing on the rocks by the sea-shore.
  
  Chinna chinna kannanukku - Gemini Ganesan movie - I don't remember the name.
  
  My list seems to be coming down by notches with every additional song ! Somebody help !
  
  Ah ! of course...Karpoora Bommai Onru and Nee paathi, Naan paathi from Keladi Kanmani !
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ socks14d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Fri Jul 17 17:08:47 EDT 1998
  
  One more !
  Poove Poochoodava - from Poove Pochoodava
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ socks14d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Fri Jul 17 17:09:31 EDT 1998
  
  One more !
  Poove Poochoodava from Poove Poochoodava
  
  
• From: Bharat (@ isdbsd1-inet.ci.mil.wi.us) on: Fri Jul 17 17:52:23 EDT 1998
  
  yAr andha nilavu from "shanthi", one of the very few songs in which Sivaji appears (relatively) restrained and actually brings out the introspective nature of the song. I thought the smoking was a nice touch.
  
  One of my all-time favorites: pArtha vizhi pArthapadi from "Guna"; very striking visual images, perfectly in keeping with the sexual undercurrent throughout the film. unnai nAnaRivEn was also very well-shot.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Fri Jul 17 18:09:50 EDT 1998
  
  "Thakita thathimi" from Salangai Oli, especially when Jayapradha's widow character wears the kungumam to please Kamal's character and Kamal is dancing on top of a well under the pouring rain.
  She steps out and he freezes, for he hasn't seen her in so many years, just then the song goes into opera-like hummings. . ."aaahhh ahhhh ahhh ahahaa". Kamal puts his palm over Jayapradha's forehead like a visor to prevent the kungumam from dissolving in the rain. Movie irony at its best. The song slowly winds down with SPB slow peddling the final few words. The song, the music, the delivery, a masterstroke by IR. Kudos to Vishwanath, the director, for a marvelous sequence.
  
  
• From: G. Varghese (@ 142.194.172.200) on: Fri Jul 17 18:25:48 EDT 1998
  
  Picturization of "Kalyaana Thaenilaa.." from MOUNAM SAMMATHAM was a classic, in my (humble) opinion. Melodious music, rhyming lyrics, and great singing characterized the song. However, the bigger attraction for me was the "restrained" and controlled acting by Mammootti and Amala. They brought out the romance, glamour, fantasy and the right mood withut indulging into the usual
  histrionics.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Sat Jul 18 00:00:01 EDT 1998
  
  IMO, one of the best songs of IR to fit the situation is
  'poomalai vaangi vanthan' from sindhu bhairavi.
  
  I will never get tired of mentioning the song in this forum.i have talked about it several times.
  
  this particular scene in this movie haunts me.
  in the second interlude after the flute piece there is a pause. sulakshana in the movie asks sivakumar's driver to leave as siva uses the car to go to bars. the driver accepts the money and starts crying at the sad thought of leaving after working for so many years. at that time watch out for the violins!! the violins gradually pick up and reach a crescendo. SIMPLY A CLASSIC! i have been left in a trance whenever i hear this piece.the interlude can be appreciated only by people with a passion for carnatic music. IR has dissected kaanada in this song.
  
  the merging of this scene with this song speaks about the directorial genius of balachander as well.
  
  as srinath requested this is an example of another song which comes only in the background. the first interlude music when siva
  comes home drunk is also amazing.IMO no one other than IR could have scored like this for the movie. balachander should never forget IR in the whole of his life for this movie.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ socks9d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Sat Jul 18 16:44:09 EDT 1998
  
  The list so far -
  
  (in order of appearance...)
  
  1. Kallelam Nogudhadi - En Bommakutti Ammavukku
  2. Valai Osai - Sathya
  3. Paruvamae - Nenjathai Killadhe
  4. Vennilave Venilave - Minsaara Kanavu
  5. pOOvaNNam pOla nenjam - azhiyaadha kOlangaL
  6. pOOngaaRRu pudhiraanadhu - mOOnRam piRai
  7. rAjanOdu rANi vandhu - sathi leelavathi
  8. rAja rAja chOzhan nAn - rettaivAl kuruvi
  9. nEE oru kAdhal sangEEtham - Nayagan
  10. andhi mazhai mEgam - Nayagan
  11. pOOmAlayE thOL sEravAA - Pagal Nilavu
  12. thandhana thathana (Sippi irukudhu, muthum irukkudhu) - Varumai Niram Sigappu
  13. Anjali, Anjali - Anjali
  14. Poongatru thirumbuma - Mudhal Mariyadhai
  15. Manram vandha thendralukku - Mouna Raagam
  16. Sendhoorapoove - 16 Vayadhinile
  17. Ithazhil Kadhai Ezhudum - Unnal Mudiyum Thambi
  18. Mogham ennum theeyil - Sindhu Bhairavi
  19. Chinna chinna kannanukku - ? Gemini Ganesan starrer
  20. Karpoora Bommai Onru - Keladi Kanmani
  21. Nee paathi, Naan paathi - Keladi Kanmani
  22. Poove Poochoodava - Poove Pochoodava
  23. yAr andha nilavu - Shanthi
  24. pArtha vizhi pArthapadi - Guna
  25. Unnai Nan Ariven - Guna
  26. Thakita thathimi - Salangai Oli
  22. Kalyaana Thaenilaa - Mounam Sammatham
  23. Poomalai Vaangi Vanthan - Sindhu Bhairavi
  
  and
  
  24. Sangeetha Swarangal - Azhagan
  
  I would also like to see others come up with some Golden Oldies. Though dramatics played a major part in song sequences those days, I am sure there are more than a handful of movies where songs would have made good Music Videos by themselves.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ socks9d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Sat Jul 18 16:56:37 EDT 1998
  
  Oops !
  I slipped up on the numbering ! the last three songs are -
  
  27. Kalyaana Thaenilaa - Mounam Sammatham
  28. Poomalai Vaangi Vanthan - Sindhu Bhairavi
  29. Sangeetha Swarangal - Azhagan
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.27.248) on: Sat Jul 18 19:14:45 EDT 1998
  
  srinath,
  are u planning to make a video music collection? if so, how are u going to do it?in india, maybe? do shops record assorted songs on video cassettes? if so do u know roughly how much they charge?
  
  if u are planning to make a collection i suggest that u group together songs of a particular period,say the early eighties, in a single cassete and so on. it has always been my wish to record the classics of IR from the early eighties in a single audio cassette and then record the same songs in the same sequence in a video casette too.i have not had time so far to do it.living in U.S. does'nt help either.
  
  now to the collection....
  
  i do not see many mani rathnam's movies in the list, noted for their song picturisation.
  
  some of the songs are
  
  1. china chinna aasai- village girl's pranks and playfulness, picturised well
  
  2. pani vizhum nilavu- mouna ragam,hero and heroine do not sing but feelings conveyed beautifully by the song, picturised with taj mahal as the backdrop.
  
  dance videos
  
  1. paatukku paatu- anjali, superb choreography,
  excellent beat, kids dance better than heros and heroines.
  
  2. punnagayil minsaaram- bharathan,another excellent song. acording to prabhudeva the most difficult song he has ever choreographed, because he made vijaykanth dance!!! editing was excellent and the dance picturised with just a white background was a new experience for the tamil movie viewers.
  
  3. kalam kaalamaga-punnagai mannan,superb!
  
  4. take it oorvasi,mukkaala-good graphics!
  
  5. megam kottatum-enakkul oruvan, a taste of young kamal, dancing in his 'palapala' shirt.
  
  srinath, u can make a separate dance video also.
  
  
• From: G. Varghese (@ 142.194.172.200) on: Sun Jul 19 00:06:44 EDT 1998
  
  Srinath & Vijay:
  
  I have quite a few professionally made music videos of Tamil movie songs. Pyramid, Thomsun, Surya and other companies release extensive collections. The titles that I have include:
  
  THE BEST OF ILAIYARAJA - Several Volumes
  ISAIMALAR - Several Volumes
  PUTHIYA RAAGANGAL - Several Volumes
  ENRUM INIYAVAI - A classic collection of old
  Black& White movie songs, including "Ponaal
  Pogattum Poda..", "Vantha Naal Muthal..",etc.
  I also have two videos consisting of more than 70 TFM songs by K.J. Yesudas, released by Pyramid. I have made a few tapes of my own, copying songs from movies as well as music tapes. You will need two VCRs and a lot of time.
  
  BTW, all these commercial tapes were bought in North America. There may be stores in India that will custom-make your selections like they do with audio tapes.
  
  Good Luck!
  
  

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