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What do we want from IR in future ?

Topic started by Natarajan (@ pryout.mecon.com) on Wed Mar 11 14:49:39 EST 1998.
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Being the resposible fans of IR, shall we define what we want from IR in future ?

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• From: Natarajan (@ pryout.mecon.com) on: Wed Mar 11 14:59:43 EST 1998
  
  Hi friends,
  after seeing lots of TFM dicussions ,related to IR, I strongly feel that we are the responsible fans IR. I think at this stage we need to prove that to the public. Shall we define what kind of music we want from IR in the future ? In case if IR sees this discussion page, this may give him a good input to his creative process.
  
  Thanks

• From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com) on: Wed Mar 11 15:34:08 EST 1998
  
  My personal wishes - in a prioritized list
  
  1. The Symphony
  2. More songs like Ananda Kuyilin Paattu in KM.
  3. A sincere attempt to resolve many of the "fights" with other artists.
  
  Frankly, I wouldnt worry too much about item # 3, if 1 and 2 come thro. 3 is like icing on the cake.
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.55) on: Thu Mar 12 12:50:46 EST 1998
  
  Friends,
  
  Why don't all of us write a letter in detail to our Maestro, giving him words of encouragement and also morale boosting words and urge and cheer him to go on and on ?
  
  As sincere , genuine fans of IR, I strongly feel that he should be made to feel comfortable and at ease by people like us.
  
  More suggestions in this regard awaited.
  
  Madhan,Goa
  
  
• From: Nithin Sreedevan (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Thu Mar 12 19:07:13 EST 1998
  
  Yes, I think I suggested to Sathya, since one of his friends is a film director, that we all send some one line well-wishing note to Raja soon. Definitely, for his B'Day we should all arrange a Card from here. What do you all say?
  
  About encouragement, Raja has done so much and now he is coming back in his own way. Now, he has competition, like we have never ever seen before. So, all he has to do is match wits.
  
  
  
• From: well_wisher (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Mar 13 01:58:17 EST 1998
  
  makkaL:
  
  Am I reading it correct ????
  
  "give him an input to his creative process"
  "giving him words of encouragement"
  "well-wishing note to Raja"
  
  
  adap pAvamE! IR nilamai ivLO parithAbama irukkunnu
  mAthirila neenga feel paNreenga.
  
  "aiyahO!"nu nonthu pOiruvAr IR, if he reads this thread.
  
  Just leave IR alone - let him enjoy his much-needed "retired" life with family, which he
  missed during his WORKAHOLIC peak time.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.70) on: Fri Mar 13 07:10:00 EST 1998
  
  Mr.Well_wisher,
  
  I don't very appreciate the tone behind your comments - what is wrong in genuine fans reaching out to a Genius and letting him know of our true feelings for him and his music ?
  
  madhan,Goa.
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.70) on: Fri Mar 13 07:12:35 EST 1998
  
  Please add "much" to "very" in the above comment.
  
  
  
  Madhan
  
  
• From: mannAru. (@ ns.arraycomm.com) on: Fri Mar 13 22:11:14 EST 1998
  
  i agree with bones.
  
  IMHO:
  
  IR knows what is he doing. IR knows where
  he is, compared to others. He is doing music
  for his satisfaction and money.
  
  We can not
  force any artiste to do our way. They have
  their own. If the artiste is listening to
  others (except FDs) he is not involved and
  he is not enjoying it very much.
  
  mannAru
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Mar 14 00:35:53 EST 1998
  
  I too agree with bones and mannAru. The tone of some of the earlier postings were like - IR must be wondering if he has any fans left. Since we are the greatest of his fans, let's right to him and let him now.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Mar 14 00:36:43 EST 1998
  
  IR is not in such a pathetic situation.
  
  
• From: gOpAl (@ 1cust104.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sat Mar 14 16:55:51 EST 1998
  
  thiru Sathyakumar Selvaraj (Bones) avargaLE
  
  Yeppadi yeppadi yeppadi yeppadi? Address illAdha oru "andha kAlaththu MD" "engirundhO vandhAn" moolamAga come-back seyya ninaikkalAm! oru "MSV" sinimAvil nadiganAi mAralAm! pala avathArangaL edukkalAm!! (isaiyil enna seyyamudiyum?). Indha 'also ran' endeavors ellAm OK! AanAl, isaiyil sAdhanaigaLai purindhukondum, puriyappOgiravarum Aana RaajAthiRaajanukku "retired" life?
  
  20 varudangaL "workaholic" Aaga irundha Raajavitku Oiyvu thEvai endru sollungaL, oppukkoLgirEn. Andha Oyvu puththunarchi thandhu pudhu uththigaLaiththarum isaimEdhaikku. adhanAl thamizh isai mEmpadum enbadhu urudhi. "Retired" life enbadhu (isai)gnyAnigaLukku illai. kalaiyil oru Piccaso, vayalin isaiyil oru Menuhin, sitthAr pandit ravishankar AagiyOr udhAranam!! AanAl, isaichchakravarthi ILAYARAAJA retire AagavEndumA?? avar AagavEndiya kAlaththil, yellAm odunginapin AagaththAn pOgirAr. Why are you worried?? "Retire" Aana MSV enna seydhu kondirukkirAr? isaignyAnigaLukkellAm isaiamaiththukondirukkirAr!! ((Believe me!! Genius IS independent of situation)) appadi enna isaignyAni ungaLukku eeyaththinai kAychchi kAdhinil oottrivittAr? thAnga mudiyAmal neengaL "retire" Aagu enru sollumbadiyAga?? inru kaththum kuyilE Agattum, ennai thAlAtta varuvALO Agattum, oru koottil siru kOkilam Agattum, nil nil nil Agattum, thenral vandhu theendumbOdhu Aagattum, nammai isai moolam kirangadikkavaiththukkondirukkumbOdhu rAjA yEn "retire" Aaga vEndum?
  
  sameebaththil sadham adiththa tendulkarai patriya um karuththu enna enru kEttAl, "avar mudhalil retire AagavEndum, yEnendrAl, kadandha 8 varudangaLAga viLaiyAdikondE irukkirAr" enru badhil solvadhu pOl irukkiradhu ungaL karuththu!!! iruttilirundhu veLi varumbOdhu kan koosaththAn seyyum, veLichchaththai pArAmalA irukkirOm?? Raaja isayil, isaikku, oru mAperum veLichcham. "A GRAND HAPPENING!!!!" Try to visualize it!! Such events are shortlived. Aagave, namakku adhigamAgavE isayil kidaithuLLadhu!
  Better late than......
  
  vairam mElum mElum paLichchittu pala nirangaLai kAtti varum kAlaththil veenE adhu "kariththundu" endru silar kannukkupulappattAl, vairaththil kuraiyA? kannil kOLArA?
  
  Mozart, isaiyil oru mAmEdhai endru avar kuzhandhaiyAga irundhapOdhu kandupidiththArgaL. AanAl, avarukku peyarum pugazhum pitkAlaththil yEzhE yEzhu varudangaLukkuththAn kidaiththadhu. adharkku pinnar avar mugavari illAmal boomikkuL sendru vittAr (he was burried without an epitaph in a pauper's grave!!).
  Andha sila nAtkaLil avar koduththa isaiyaidhAn ulagam indrum pArAttikondu irukkiradhu!! sila (nooru)varudangaLukkuppin kidaiththa pArAttukkaL avai. avar kAlaththil, "porAmaiyilum, avamadhippilum" avar isaiyai palar izhandhadhudhAn michcham!!!!!!!!!!
  
  Indru isai uruvAi nammil nadamAdikkondirukkum isaignyAnikkum idhE gadhidhAn. innum sila varudangaLukku pin "AahA, OhO" pugazhArangaL kuvindhadangum.
  appozhudhu, isaignyAniyin peyardhAn irukkum. neengaLum nAnum irukkamAttOm. 20 varudangaLukku mEl , isaiyil vyaththagu sAdhanaigaLai purindha nAdhabrammaththai nALaiya ulagam "thyAgarAjA II" endro "indhiyAvin oppattra beethOvan" enro kooralAm. nishchayamAi nAm adhaikkAna irukkamAttom. So better try to "understand" and "realize" it.
  
  When it is music, its ILAYARAAJA!! So, better see it. And hear it! And BE IT!!
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Mar 14 18:26:56 EST 1998
  
  gOpAl: romba unarchi vasappattu vittergaL. You missed the point in Bones's posting. He just wanted to point out that IR is free to do what he chooses and we shouldn't be trying to chart his course in the future. His choice of words might not make that readily apparent, but you should be used to Bones's style of writing by now. :)
  
  
• From: RV (@ 209.172.108.20) on: Sat Mar 14 23:51:01 EST 1998
  
  Indha thread-il MSVkku enna velai ? Adhu ennavo theriya villai, yaarukkavadhu IR-ai kurai koorugiraargal endru thondri vittaal udane "Unga ARR eppadi ? Unga MSVyum mattamdhaan" endru oru reaction vandhu vidugiradhu. Koodiya seekkiram indha thread-il ARR-in varugaiyai edhirparkkiren.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Sun Mar 15 02:02:52 EST 1998
  
  RV: neengaLe azhaiththu vanthu vitteergaL. :)
  
  
• From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Sun Mar 15 20:47:17 EST 1998
  
  RV:
  
  Ayiram thAn irunthAlum, MSV fans-galukku ivvalavu nalla manasu irukka kOOthAdhu. illEnA MSV "retired" AnapOthu illAtha oru akkarai ippO vanthu irukkumA. Ilaiyaraaja will never sit and enjoy his so-called "retired" life like other MDs did. Ilaiyaraaja sonna mAthiri isai enbathu avarukku suvAsakkAtru pOla. avarukku eppadi "retired" life varum enru thAn enakku puriyavillai.
  
  
• From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com) on: Wed Apr 7 16:32:30 EDT 1999
  
  IR should compose for Hindi films because no hindi music directors are that great anymore. IR has nothing to lose as his market is smaller after ARR's national market. IR should go all out to reach complete India. Period. This is it. Enough is enough. Podhum. Go for the national audience and then the international audience will follow. Look at his beautiful songs in Manam Virumbuthey Unnai. Totally gone unnoticed in TN, because there everybody is in the software business. No time for music these days. North India still not bothered about that. IR is wasting time for TN today. Please IR first do the unfinished India market. Go, Go, Go. Don't you think we should all send emails to him to change course for a while? (Does he have email account or his sons have?
  
  
• From: Critic (@ midaspse135.library.mcgill.ca) on: Wed Apr 7 17:58:54 EDT 1999
  
  Well! MO:
  
  If it is for FM, it would be better, if IR can coordinate and give importance other aspects of film songs, like taking into account song situation, having good lyricists like VM, etc.,
  
  IR is definitely capable of producing classical music like symphonies. But, the question is does the symphony can pay him like FMs. How much % of Tamil people own IR's "nothing but wind" ? If it is Sakalavallavan or some other FM % of people who buy it, is very high.
  
  Absolutely no interference of his family, in his professional life.
  
  Well! may be we can add more categories in this list.
  
  But, every MD in some respect or other will be lacking some qualities. Otherwise, OSCAR awards cannot become escapable or for that matter any utmost honour cannot become escapable.
  
  We should encourage those who are capable, not because they are weak and lacking funda.
  
  More on this later.
  
  
• From: Vimal (@ 129.219.38.215) on: Wed Apr 7 18:15:38 EDT 1999
  
  I second SitaRam's thought. I think it is the most perfect posting for this DF. I'd like to add a couple of points. I think he's got ego problems. He should try to get over it and work again with the people like Manirathnam. Second, he should avoid composing music for some Kuppai Movies.
  
  
• From: Critic (@ midaspse135.library.mcgill.ca) on: Wed Apr 7 18:27:08 EDT 1999
  
  Hi Sitaram & Vimal,
  
  your demand of going to HM, has been easy for ARR, because, he is from B'bay. Both of you bring out a point, which resembles, the familiar, "well he did, why dont you do". But, I guess, you all know, many of IR tunes, had been copied in HMs. But, even without going to HM, he delivers such original music. Our motivation should be to get best music that IR can deliver. But, is it going to HM, an essential factor in realising that objective? I weigh it less.
  
  

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