I would like to see a list of songs which convey agony ( not thathuva padalgal or philosophical or sadness - the line is quite thin , let's see how this thread develops ..
1. Thaalatu paadi ..Thayaaga vendum, vegu naalaaga en aasai chinnamma ( the part where a mother's voice says Kanna - is the highlight. I dont know which film or who was the star - probably Sivaji G.
2. Aatuvithal Yaar oruvar ( from Avan than Manidhan - if you watch the movie - Sivaji is in real agony..
-Raja Mahadevan
Topic started by Raja Mahadevan (@ draco.eisi.com) on Fri Jan 23 13:56:29 EST 1998.
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- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 14:33:31 EST 1998
Raja:
"Thaalaattu Paadi Thaataagaveindum" is by TMS in "Praaptham" where Sivaji( whose character name is "Kannan" ) sings to Savithiri who says "Kanna" in the middle of the song - I have not seen the movie.
Other songs that I can think of now( correct me if I am at tangent with your request )
1. Soathanai Meil Soathanai, Poathumada Saami - Thangappathakkam
2. Kaaghithathil Kappal Seithu - Anbukkarangal
3. Unnai Nenachein Paattu Padichein - Abhoorva Saghotharargal
4. Kaalamithu Kaalamithu Kannuranghu Magaley - Chithi
5. Kangal Irandum Yenru Unnaikkandu Pesumo? - Mannaathu Mannan
more to come later
- From: Raja Mahadevan (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 15:25:43 EST 1998
Amar,
I think Kaalamidhu Kaalamidhu is more a Thalaattu . It is differentiate between sad songs and songs sung in agony. Sothanai mel Sothanai is a good choice.
What about Nilai Maarinal Gunam Maaruvaan sung by GK Venkatesh, not the song Vandhanaal mudhal indha naal varai by TMS from Paava Mannippu ?.
-Raja
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tl02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 15:31:13 EST 1998
6. kalaiyae en vaazhkkaiyin dhisai maatrinaai (pathos) with Gemini G's "nirmala" in the middle--Meenda Sorgam
7. nenjam marappadhillai (pathos)
8. ennai marandhadhaen thendralae--Kalangarai viLakkam
Hope these qualifiy. How would you categorize neeyum naanumaa kaNNaa from Gauravam?
- From: Raja M (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 15:59:45 EST 1998
Kanchana,
I really don't know which is a sad song and one which has agony written allover. Let's see how this thread develops..
- Raja
- From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 16:37:55 EST 1998
Ponaal Pogattum Poda in Palum Pazahmum
Veedu Varai Uravu in Padha Kanikkai
Annan Kaattiya Vazhiamma in Paditthal Mattum Podhuma
Ullam Enbadu Aamai in Partthal Pasi Theerum
Ninaindhu Ninaindhu En Nenjam Urugudhe in Sadharam
Ullatthil Nalla Ullam in Karnan
- From: RajaM (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 16:50:19 EST 1998
RV,
Ullathil Naal Ullam is a good choice.
Other choices which are `painful'
Engirundhaalum Vaazhga from Nenjil Or Aalayam.
Vairkarayil Vaigai Karayil - from Payanagal Mudivadhillai
Naalai Indha Vela .. Odivaa Nila PS from Uyarndha manidhan
Muthukkalo Kangal - nenjirukkum varai ( this song is so beautiful at the same time invokes a lot of pain..
-Raja
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-ti06.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 16:58:26 EST 1998
Raja:
Does ninaikkath therindha manamae unakku marakka theriyaadha qualify?
- From: Raja M (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 17:21:19 EST 1998
Kanchana:
Ninaikka therindha maname is a good choice
What about Isaithamizh Nee Seida Arul Saadanai ( Mahalingam's voice is really painful !)
- Raja
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Jan 23 21:31:35 EST 1998
Raja - a helpful hint. Please refer to the "how-to" before you start new threads.
More info on: Thaalaattu paadi thaayaaga vendum (Amar not :Thaataagaveindum. :-))
Praptham was Savithri's home production and made without her husband's (GG) approval. The movie was an utter flop and Savithri nodinjufied after that, never recovering.
I have watched the movie a few times and IMO, the story-telling was good. Poor Kannan (Sivaji) loves rich Chinnamma, who gets married to someone else. One day, Chinamma returns to the gramam and Kannan is shocked too discover that she has lost her pottu - yes she is a widow! Thaalaattu paadi thaayaaga vendum comes after that.
There is another good song (agony?) in the movie. I'm sure all of you have hear of "Nethu paraiththa rojaa, naan paarththu paraitha rojaa.
Other excellent songs (tho not related to this topic) are:
Sontham yeppoathum thodakathaithaan mudivey illthathu.
Santhanaththil nalla vaasam yeduththu
Ithu maargazhi maasam
BTW, Kannan and Chinnamma are reunited in the next birth (hence Praptham) :-))
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Jan 23 21:53:40 EST 1998
NOV:
Adding to your agony of Praaptham
I should mention that the movie was first made in
Hindi, then in Telegu, before the Thamizh version.
Probably that was the reason why it failed. In the
Telegu version Savithri acted with Nageswara Rao.
OK folks, get back to discussing agony.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Jan 23 23:08:59 EST 1998
SK - This is news to me. TQ.
Would you agree with me that Yennai thaalatta varuvaala is also sung in agony?!?
Most of you who have been in these shoes (including Bhaskar) would know what I mean. :-))
- From: go-nee-agony (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Fri Jan 23 23:54:34 EST 1998
I feel the Agony (eppayAvathu intha feeling visit
paNNitu pOgum) in SPB's voice in
"uchi vagideduthu pichippu vachcha kiLi"
In the movie, Sivakumar as a pseudo-kirukkan can
understand about his wife's wrong behavior but
couldn't to anything - athil sOgam, disappointment,
virakthi moonum sErntha AGONY state.
Same goes for Rajini's disappointment with his
brother in (padam ??):
"Urath therinjukitEn ulagam purinjikitEn kaNmani"
same in Raja pArt Rangadurai, where Sivaji uses
the TT bats for KODA-KODA-THATTI (athukku pEr enna?)
"ammammA thambi endru numbi avan unnai" (pathos)
same in pazani, when thambigaL leave Sivaji:
"aNNan ennadA thambi ennadA avasaramAna ulagathilE"
pothuvA TFMla - thambi EthAvathu paNNitA udanE
annangaL pulambuvArgaL - for a change ippa thambi
pulambuvAr,
In "padithAl mattum pOthumA":
"aNNan kAtiya vaziyammA - ithu anbAl vizaintha paziyammA"
Howabout "dancing the whole night song" with agony in
(konjam fastAna agony!!) "punnagai mannan":
"kavithai kELungaL karuvil piRanthathu nAtham"
GO to NY everyday by sub-way is also Agony !!!
(any comments NJyens)
- From: P.Raja (@ alcor.concordia.ca)
on: Sat Jan 24 04:12:32 EST 1998
Some more,
Avanekkenna Thoongi Vittan Ahapattavan Naan allava? (for MGR by TMS)
Naan Unnai Alaikkavillai En Uyirai Alaikinraen Kannai Maraithukondal Manadil Ennam Maraivadillai...(for Sivaji by TMS)
Nandoorudu Nariyoorudu Nandoorudu... Naan Vazhartha Chellakili Kannil Adudu..(for Rajni by TMS)
Orayiram PArvayilae un Parvayai Naan Arivaen Un Kaladi Osaiyilae....(for Asokan by TMS)
Iravum Varum Pahalum Varum Ulagam Onru dhan Uravum Varum Pahaiyum Varum Idayam Onrudhan....(for Jayshankar by TMS)
Do you know more on this line. If so, please type them.....
P.Raja
- From: RV (@ 1cust107.max2.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net)
on: Sat Jan 24 18:24:50 EST 1998
One of the songs that suggest a subtle meloncholy is
"Vadabhadra Sayikku Varahala Laali" in Sippikkul Mutthu. Cant remember the words in Tamil. There is a nice undercurrent of sadness in the voice, tune...
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Sun Jan 25 20:26:02 EST 1998
RV - Going by the Telugu words you have given (and singing to it), I think the song you mention is
Varam thantha suamikku sugamaana laali
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tp06.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Jan 25 23:40:37 EST 1998
Thalaivaa NOV:
Puriyudhu :-)))
Ennai thaalatta varuvalO paadal Agony illa yaekkam (longing) :-)))
Is Kuyila pudichu koondil adaichu, koova sollugura ulagam Agony or Sogam ?
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Jan 26 04:57:24 EST 1998
Bhaskar - neenga innum yeikkam phase-il thaan irukareergalaa? Koodiya seekiraththil agony phase-ukku vanthuviduveergal...... :-))
- From: Raja M (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Mon Jan 26 09:40:45 EST 1998
Nov:
I will keep in mind before starting a new topic :)
I liked your yekkam to agony phase discussion.
Is the song Naan Unnai Azhaikka Villai from Engirundo Vandhal - This song is surely one sung in agony..
Raja
- From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com)
on: Mon Jan 26 10:01:18 EST 1998
Hey guys :
How about PBS's
'nilavE ennidam nerundAdgE
nee ninaikkum vagaiyil nAn illai
...
amaidhi illadha nEdathilE ANdavan enaiyE padaithu vittAn ...'
I haven't seen the movie (?) but the lyrics seem to suggest agony to me.
BTW most of the agony songs seem to be self-pity/kazhivirakkam songs. Sivaji was a master in these type of songs.
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Mon Jan 26 11:02:19 EST 1998
NOV:
Unga posting padichittu yennaal sirippai adakka mudiyavillai. "Agony, sad, remorseful" situationai ( Thaayaaga vendiya Sivajiyai ), "Comedy"( Thaataavaaga ) yaakki konnuttein.
(Note my point, My Lord, according to Tamil, "thaataaga" yenbathu thavaraagum. "Thaai" "Thaayaaga" mudiyum; "Thaatta" "Thaattaavaaga"thaan mudiyum thavira ,"Thaataaga" mudiyaathu.)
Irunthaalum, thavarukku varunthugirein. Thiruthathai Yetrukkolgirein.
- From: Bhaskar (@ 205.147.245.41)
on: Mon Jan 26 19:17:54 EST 1998
NOV:
Thalaivaa, romba pessimistic-aa irukeenga, naan indha vishayathula optimist, yaen yaekkam inimaiyaana phase-ukku maarakkudaadhu ? :-))
Vandhaal Vandhaal Rajakumaari, Oyiyaari :))
- From: Raja M (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Tue Jan 27 15:11:17 EST 1998
Pg,
You have a point. One generally associates songs sung in agony with TMS and Sivaji G.
Has anyone conducted researcht on why people liked to watch suffering on screen.
Sorry for digressing, why do we glorify suffering, pain, sacrifice in Indian movies ?
Raja
- From: cry_baby (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Wed Jan 28 08:24:57 EST 1998
Amar:
"thAt poot"nu NOVku EthO solli irukeenga, en
mandaiku athu puriyalai.
Raja M:
"suffering, pain, sacrifice" are wonderful feelings.
I love to cry when I see some movies (esp. old)
where the characters gothru pain (not the physical). Sacrifice is a noble thing which
touches the heart. Esp. when a character has
sacrificed/done something for another which is
not aware of it and blames the first who just
keeps quiet with pain. I kan-kalangified for those scenes.
another agony song from Jaishankar:
(latest joke from Jaishankar: He announced that
he wanted serve people and ready to join a political
party - BUT NOBODY APPROACHED HIM!!!)
SirithAlum kaNNIr varum
azuthAlum kaNNir varum
what is the song situation ??? Padam: kannip peN ??
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-ti04.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Jan 29 00:16:22 EST 1998
Bones:
Andha kaNNir-la 'r' ezhutha eduthudunga Bones :-))
appodhaan kaNNiraE vaaraadhu :-)))
- From: Ramki (@ ucc214.lab.cc.wmich.edu)
on: Thu Jan 29 12:08:32 EST 1998
Agonies of different varieties:)
urave illadha manidharkku varum agony:
Aandavanae parkkanum avanukkum oothanum-makkal en pakkam
samugam tharum aematrathaal varum agony:
vaanathae parthen boomiyai parthen manushanai innum parkkalaiye-manidhan
Pennai adakki vaikkum ulagathil oru pennukku varum agony:
ooh oru thendral puyalaagi varumae-pudhumai penn
kaadhal tholvi tharum agony
azhagu malar aada-vaidehi kathirundhaal
than thaayin peyarai kakka ennum oru maganin agony:
en thaayin peyarai kakka edutha sabadham mudippen-MRBharat
sorgathil idamillai endru sonnadhum viswamithrarukku varum agony:
shankara sivashankara jaya jaya chandrasekhara-rajarishi
Nanbanin aelanathaal varum agony:
vetri nichayam idhu vedha satyam-annamalai
aezhagalakku idamilladha ulagil ovvoru aezhaikkum varum agony:
nilai maarum ulagil nilaikkum endre kanavil-oomai vizhigal
uyir nanbal tharum aematrathaal varum agony:
unakkenne mele nindrai oh nandalala-simla special
kaadhal + sahodara paasam tharum agony:
vennilaavin therileri kaadhal deivam-duet
Nallavan kettavanaaga maara ninaikkum pozhudhu varum:
dhairiyamaaga sol nee manidhan dhaana-olivizhakku
Agony due to lust:
Moham ennum theeyil en manam vendhu vendhu urugum-
Sindhu bhairavi
- From: wood-head (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Fri Jan 30 00:14:59 EST 1998
Bhaskar:
en maramandail Odiyathu:
"r" eduthA kaNNi thAnE Aguthu
apdinA enna-nu puriyalai. pOdunga oosi enakku!
- From: woodpecker (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Fri Jan 30 13:42:02 EST 1998
Knock, knock, knock!
Athu onnumilleinga, "Thaat" manasukkul undaagum "thoughts", avatrai, "poot" poottu poattu pooti vaikkaamal, yenakku sonneengaley appadinnu NOVkittey, Mannaappu kettu Enn "Nov"ai theetuukuneinba, athu, "Thar poot"nu vanthuchubha.
"Thaai" "Thaatta" aaga mudiyuma( oosi yellam poadaama? ), "Paatti"thaan aagamudiyum, ahaang!
- From: Arimugam (@ mercmarine.com)
on: Fri Jan 30 17:15:48 EST 1998
Tamil Film Music pagennu titile vaichindu ennanga etho vere mozhikalla ellam eluthukiraarkal. Mr. Bones, neenga cry-babynnra perla eluthinathukku baskar sonnathu athu, kannirle 'r' eduthitta kanni varum, means don't cry, be smile, girls will come to you. Athuthane Mr. Baskar sollavanthathu?.
Naan intha vilayattukku varaleengo.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Fri Jan 30 18:12:20 EST 1998
yennapA idhu songs of agonyilirundhu, kannippOikkittirukkOm?
how about "anbach chumandhu chumandhu" in ponnumaNi?
- From: Bhaskar (@ 205.147.245.41)
on: Sat Jan 31 14:17:09 EST 1998
Arimugam:
Correct-aa sonnenga :-))
Bones:
SirithAlum kaNNI (Amala) varum
azuthAlum kaNNi (Amala) varum
:-))
- From: Raja Mahadevan (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Wed Feb 4 16:54:30 EST 1998
What about Yaar Andha Nilavu, Yen indha kanavu - TMS from Shanti. Even the way the music interlude before TMS starts the song and some where in the middle of the song, "vaazhvadhu pol oru bhavanai kaatum nenjame" . Some of the old-gold songs, one can hear over and over again..
Raja M
- From: raja mahadevan (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Thu Feb 5 09:05:51 EST 1998
I am not sure if this is a song sung in agony or just a sad song:
Kanna Karumai niram kanna unnai kaanadha kann Illaye ( sung by PS , I don't know the movie or the MD ?)
-Raja M
- From: dhan (@ dajal.legato.com)
on: Fri Feb 13 19:11:06 EST 1998
Raja:
AVM'in Penn(think so) with Vijakumari
- From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp198.apts.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Feb 13 22:45:29 EST 1998
Its Naanum oru penn -MD Sudharsanam
- From: Kanthi (@ proxy.pcs.bls.com)
on: Thu Feb 19 13:03:12 EST 1998
Hello
Another addition could be
'Sonnathu Nee Thaana'
from Nenjil Oar Alayam. The song almost sounds like 'pulambal' - but it is a beautiful song;
- From: meena (@ )
on: Fri Aug 25 00:41:05 EDT 2000
i need a list of tamil female voice new songs (Love/Agony) and anybody do it for me. Actually I want to record it in cassettes / cds and present it to my sweet heart.
Meena
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