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Ilayaraaja in ITALY

Topic started by Kiran (@ 203.106.8.139) on Sat May 22 05:58:54 EDT 2004.
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• From: Kum_Laden (@ 66.131.253.133) on: Sat May 22 16:27:00 EDT 2004
  
  and Simran too went along? Why is her pic next to IR?
  
  
• From: jaya (@ 212.211.136.33) on: Sat May 22 17:10:17 EDT 2004
  
  ilayaraaja in idly, wat selling hot idlies.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.30) on: Sun May 23 06:17:04 EDT 2004
  
  hahahhaha...all following ARR's footstep,even ur IR,it took the person 6 years to take a decision whether to take IR or not....hehehe...
  
  
• From: kishen (@ 210.195.165.47) on: Sun May 23 08:13:11 EDT 2004
  
  hi dinesh arr is powder milk and ir breast milk ir selling idly bur u r ar rahman is selling himself.
  
  
• From: Nattamai (@ 67.15.42.16) on: Sun May 23 11:57:58 EDT 2004
  
  dumb dinesh:
  
  --all following ARR's footstep,even ur IR,it took the person 6 years to take a decision whether to take IR or not....hehehe...
  
  What CBSO might have been thinking now? We took the wrong decision so fast??
  
  
• From: Gyan, Vainmaster (@ 4.158.117.43) on: Sun May 23 13:43:41 EDT 2004
  
  The whole of India got great welcome in the West after IR' Grand Symphony recording, 1993 changed the world's perception of India from Dark Cowherds, Jobless snake-charmers and Wizened Sitarists and poverty stricken scavengers TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL mind-bogglers NOT OF THIS universe. IR did that friends, not your Rahman or Norah Jones' father ;---) (due respect to Ravi Sankar)
  
  "The Modern Civilized Masters of the World" such as represented by Webber began to realize that culture means not great parades and uniforms, but spiritual values and what comes out of that - great music, not-sooaked in vanity type traditions, etc... even if it means eating with your dirty fingers - what about that turmeric curry, pal not everyone is eating out of their hands across the globe. what about Yoga, Ayurveda taking thousands of years to be appreciated abroad? I think it was IR' summer of 1993 casual camping in Cochin and deft yet nonchalant cleaning up London with the RPO that revived this neo-Indophile age.
  
  HEY, u can ask Rahman about that, in a straight talk and he must admit that it was IR, not Manirathnam (ayusu ezhuthiyachu) or Webber that did it. That is MY ENTHUSIASTICALLY HUMBLE YET VAIN OPINION (IMHYVO) ;---)
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ 4.158.117.43) on: Sun May 23 13:53:15 EDT 2004
  
  Please note, that was not anyway prejudiced or jaundiced acclamation, even today we are Dark cowherds, poverty ridden country, but we can handle that image as we are a mature society, a land with generous capacity to accomodate a billion people, a magnaminity you can't easily find in the rest of the globe. So, i am just saying in addition to old perception, abroad nations have this wonder about India' other wealth, such as music since projected by IR in 1993. the point is, little do people understand that classical Indian music has the seeds in it for creation of fantastic film songs. Dark Cowherds are harmless people, poverty is a most meaningful foundation for avoiding excesses and also for achieving valued success by overcoming challenges which rich countries people do not realize that by not looting other countries you can still prosper and not gifted with great white skin does not mean you cannot make music that defies perception.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: jaya (@ 212.211.136.33) on: Sun May 23 14:45:54 EDT 2004
  
  Achievements of Pandit Ravishankar is great.
  Please don't even put him in the category of IR.
  IR is good but not great.
  westerners are listening to MS subulaksmi's concerts in USA and Russia.
  These guys broke the cultural hurdles not IR.
  Even today people are willing to sponsor Padit Ravishankar and MS not IR.
  IR is a man with so many excuses and high ego.
  
  
• From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.32.89) on: Sun May 23 23:07:13 EDT 2004
  
  Jaya: IR is a man with so many excuses and high ego.
  
  True Jaya. The main problem with IR's composition is that one first hearing itself you will understand that it was composed by a South Indian. The songs always have this sort of a rural touch. I think that is what resulted in his failure in hindi. And that is exactly where ARR stands out.
  
  Neverthless I must admit IRs bgms are great.
  
  
• From: :-) (@ 203.118.29.201) on: Mon May 24 04:22:29 EDT 2004
  
  Guess Me, your problem is IR's strength. If you can understand that, you will appreciate what originality and individuality mean when it comes to artistic creativity.
  
  
• From: rs (@ 203.101.35.123) on: Mon May 24 05:30:15 EDT 2004
  
  come on, you so called "geniuses", appreciate the fact that we are lucky enough to witness two stalwarts, masters of their own making it big in international arena...dont do such ugly things like our dear friend "half-boiled" nattamai does..
  
  raise up ur collars and say Jai hind!!!
  
  Vaazhga IR
  Vaazhga ARR
  
  
• From: Nattamai (@ 137.73.8.3) on: Mon May 24 06:06:49 EDT 2004
  
  IR going to ITALY :)) ha ha..
  
  MUST HAVE SEEN THE PLANE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE..
  
  
• From: Srini (@ 203.199.202.97) on: Mon May 24 07:06:24 EDT 2004
  
  --Achievements of Pandit Ravishankar is great.
  --Please don't even put him in the category of IR.
  --IR is good but not great.
  --westerners are listening to MS subulaksmi's concerts in USA and Russia.
  
  
  What a comment ?. Please be open. Not with your stuprid traditoanl theories.
  
  Your Pandit RAvishankar and Subbulakshmi, if they come and perform , only selected audience can hear it. But with IR 's music , ppl for all kinds willl enjoy it.
  
  Yeah in that aspect I should not compare Raishankar and Subbulakshmi , bcos thery arent even 10% of IR
  
  
  
• From: Srini (@ 203.199.202.97) on: Mon May 24 07:12:13 EDT 2004
  
  Excerpts from Italy site:
  Communal theatre of Modena/Festival The Other Sound it has offered the possibility to Angelic of
  
  to realize plans opening the theatre to India with Dr. Ilaiyaraaja, considered the prince of the filmsong,
  
  Ilaiyaraaja it has composed 835 sonorous columns (marked also in the Guinness of the Supremacies)
  
  eclectic and curatissime in the dettaglio, beyond that instrumental music and for orchestra. After 30 years
  
  of absence from the stage, also in India, presenta from the alive one with a group of singers
  
  percussionisti and with electronic and traditional instruments. (the previewed concert to Modena of the singer
  
  Indiana Kishori Amonkar it has been cancelled).
  
  
• From: Andrew (@ 213.42.2.25) on: Mon May 24 07:45:21 EDT 2004
  
  IR is a great musician. We are lucky to born in this era to listen his music. So for God's sake stop making comments and do not compare this genius with other people. He stands apart.
  
  
• From: Andrew (@ 213.42.2.25) on: Mon May 24 07:45:48 EDT 2004
  
  IR is a great musician. We are lucky to born in this era to listen his music. So for God's sake stop making comments and do not compare this genius with other people. He stands apart.
  
  
• From: vishamas Maximus (@ 213.42.2.11) on: Mon May 24 07:53:44 EDT 2004
  
  Aligatalio Srini giardino gucci vivaldilo modena givanni puccini platinio real madrid lamborghini.
  
  Roughly translated "Srini is a Real inventor beyond comparison" in Italian.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: jagan (@ 61.11.73.84) on: Mon May 24 07:54:50 EDT 2004
  
  IR did conduct stage shows in Chennai. I fail to understand his statement that he has not performed any stage shows till now !
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 128.107.253.41) on: Mon May 24 08:24:21 EDT 2004
  
  Jagan,
  
  yes, I was also wondering the same !!
  
  I have seen a lot of IR stage shows in DD before the advent of Sattelite Channels..
  
  Even SUN TV in its begining days telecasted IR's show in Colombo..
  
  
• From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.34.209) on: Mon May 24 09:53:58 EDT 2004
  
  -) : "Guess Me, your problem is IR's strength. If you can understand that, you will appreciate what originality and individuality mean when it comes to artistic creativity."
  
  Stop blabbering like this. Try to accept facts. What I said is 100% true.
  
  Regarding IRs strength, he was strong back in the 80s and in early 90s. His fall started from 1992. IRs biggest mistake ever was his clash with Mani Ratnam while working in Thalapathy. That incident forced MR to search for a new composer for his next project and the rest is history.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 136.1.1.33) on: Mon May 24 14:46:34 EDT 2004
  
  jaya,
  Though I don't subscribe to the theory that unless westerners appreciate a form of art the artist isn't great, it is a fact that many from the west who had an exposure to IR's music had great appreciation for that (Paul Mauriat is one example).
  
  A personal experience here:
  We invited my son's piano teacher & her family to our home for dinner a few weeks back. (White lady in her late 50's who is an expert pianist and who had played for years in religious gatherings, with her husband who does design work for auto advts for big 3 & their son). After the dinner, when she finished playing around with my son's electronic keyboard -much inferior to the wooden equipment at her home- I invited them to listen to some `Indian music'. I don't have a great collection of Raja with me now, only a few samples on a CD that could be played...(ennuyir nee thAnE, kaNmaNiyE kAdhal enbadhu, Germaniyin senthEn malarE...)...she was astounded and was full of praises for the music. She was very specific about her remarks, some of which were in musical terms which I could not quickly comprehend, especially about the rhythm, the flow and the arrangement. She was also appreciative of the melody -the theme- of the music.
  
  The bottomline : getting exposed to the scores only can prompt one to appreciate / criticize.
  
  With due regards to Pandit & MS, please do not compare `performers' with `composers'. And, don't rate the music of an artist based on how well he/she was marketed and publicised internationally. Don't confuse marketing with art...
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Mon May 24 15:25:23 EDT 2004
  
  eden,
  
  MS (i dont know much about Pandit RS) is not just a performer -- she is indeed a composer.
  
  Please do not use same yardstick of defining a composer as in Western Classical Music(WCM) to a Indian classical Music(ICM) composer.
  
  
  

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