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Reasons as to why people are ditching ARR fast

Topic started by vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on Sat Jun 13 02:15:59 EDT 1998.
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hai this is based on the information given in www.tamilcinema.com in 'indraya seithigal' section.I think u need amutham font to read the info.It says people are getting fed up of ARR taking a lot of time to compose and his lack of concentration in BGM.it seems that ARR had problems with shankar with reg. to BGM in jeans and so ARR is out of shankar's next film.It seems after shakul hameed's death he did not come to the studio at all for 1 month and this had infuriated kunjumon who threw ARR out in his next film.also most of the film poojas nowadays starts with IR's name in the MD slot.the news also says that realising his mistake ARR is working hard to get back .your opinions on this after u visit the site.sorry iam not able to give a live link here.so i have given only the address.

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• From: ganesh (@ 164.164.37.8) on: Sat Jun 13 10:31:03 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay,
  
  There was a small coverage abt Kunjumons next movie on TV. The director spoke about the movie and said that there were a lot of people asking him at to why he didnt get ARR to compose the music. He said that ARR is a very busy composer and he couldnt get his dates.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Sat Jun 13 19:21:50 EDT 1998
  
  ganesh,
  i think kunjumon might have been downplaying the whole thing or perhaps the news is a false one,but i think even based on info from other sites IR is having a major share of the films today and all this talk of ARR overthrowing him
  seems ironical.
  
  
• From: amma's thambee (@ m51.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Sat Jun 13 23:19:00 EDT 1998
  
  I think that a single incident should not be attributed as a downfall of the great musician who gives us such wonderful music.
  
  
• From: Nithin (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Sun Jun 14 01:51:18 EDT 1998
  
  IR and Amitabh Bachchan did two great things for Indian films. Absenting themselves so that other talented guys could flower. ARR had his opportunity at a time when Indian film music saw more poverty than India herself. ARR stood out easily, he could have done better service and made better contribution. Producers and music lovers have seen through ARR's creativity. In my personal opinion, if IR is in demand now, it is because he has made up his mind to be back and now others will have to wait for their opportunities until IR decides to totally quit film music!
  
  
• From: Srikant (@ begis50.swift.com) on: Fri Jun 19 18:56:40 EDT 1998
  
  That's really because ARR's music has become stale and we do not like to here his songs after one or two months.Same old stuff remixed and offered in all the films.Thought IR also repeats some of his music , its really difficult to make out unless you have some knowledge of classical music,
  ARR's can be recogonized by all
  I really hate ARR's music
  Three cheers to IR
  
  
• From: Ganesh (@ 164.164.37.8) on: Sat Jun 20 07:21:41 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay,
  
  If you are talking about numbers rehman is never really a threat to anybody. IR before rehmans arrival was most directors first choice! But I guess it changed after ARR's entry (though not many directors got him). Also ARR's songs have been the most popular ones for most periods since his arrival. Also the impact he has had on tfm is far greater than any MD's during the last 6 years. Needless to say the country wide attention he has drawn with his music. Probably these might be the reason for some people to say that ARR replaced IR
  
  
  
  
• From: NaNbaN (@ 205.214.209.10) on: Sat Jun 20 14:57:10 EDT 1998
  
  It should be rather otherway...
  
  Todays Movie Directors (MD's) doesn't have enough patience to wait for ARR. First, I will make myself clear, I am not a Hardcore fan of ARR. I like some of his music.
  
  Okay... . Let me come to the topic now, Look at what happened in IR case. No one can deny the fact that, IR quality suffered by doing lot of films. Guys, wait i know what you guys going to say. But Look at the scrap IR has produced especially towards his END(??) period. If put a ratio of a hit song to scrap then it will some where around 1:4 ( or more).
  
  I am sure IR doesn't like to give scrap. This
  is his own words " I give what they(MD) want".
  Thats the time he was ruling TFM.At that time
  he became little(?) money minded.( No denying)
  
  Whatever the HELL I do I get 7 lakhs. No one out there to ocompete. So, what the problem?.
  
  Problem; Gave room to ARR ARRival (IR-Rival)
  
  The one best thing he tried was to give quality sound to our ears (Not music?? Hoo..). He even gave statement that he is gonna going to give only 5 Movies a year.
  
  Well Good ! But look at whatz happening now?. Everybody wants rather USE him. And all stories about him . We as fans have to decide, whether we want more music or quality music.Of late ARR is becoming monotonous. He even gives statment saying he has to stick to one set of music patterns, reasoning, thats what
  expected out of him. See the PRESURE boss!.
  
  He is not IR music production company where songs are produced like motor assmebly
  line. ARR needs more time to give music, whether LIFTED or done by HIM (OK copy). Its a known fact, then why make a fuss???
  
  B'cos of PRODUCERS and MD'S want QUICK money . They don't have plan or nothing. Today he wants music today, tommorow: dance, day-after-tommrow : Editing.
  
  Its shame they call it industry. Only thing they want is QUICK money. Dude , you can't make QUICK money like this. Why not smuglge ?.LOL.
  
  Guys! The Directors who waited, got good music and also MOVIE. This not new thing to TFM. It has been there, all along from MSV ,IR to now ARR.
  
  But, now its worse than, anyother time. Old days we had balance in all field to get good movie. They inspired MSV,.... But now, First thing, they ask is "Sir give a song like muqabula sir, I wil be thankful sir". The same words which made IR stop experimenting (frequency).
  
  Okay as musci fans , what can we do?. We ca do a lot than anyone can think.
  
  If don't like a tune reject it. You may may... get
  good tune later. What i am saying is, we are misleading the MD's by listing a sub-standard (moderated) song on top of the chart. Don't buy the cassete unless its is really good (Double check,triple check..) . Rather record the song you liked. Just b'cos we have enough money, we buy all the film albums. Which gives wrong impression to MD's, Who then can say "My album has sold copies of 60,0000 or...."
  
  Oh ! I have taken long time.
  
  The bottom line is its the responsibilty of the
  MD's to cope up ARR. Let the guy work in his pace. If not , Look for somebody for UR own pace. Already ARR has given some very
  bad BGM ( Vandi cholai sinrasu, Indra,..). Don't
  Filter him.
  
  But I bet shankar-IR co going to work. Good MD's can get the stuff out anybody. Did anybody belive DEVA can give songs like what he gave in Aasai. MANI & Vasanth did the trick.
  
  So , overally lets hope things go well, not only for IR, ARR, DEVA, ... But for WHOLE TFM
  and ofcourse FANS like us.
  
  
  Tuned,
  NaNbaN
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Sat Jun 20 16:08:12 EDT 1998
  
  mr.nanbane,
  IR atleast had produced 50 films per year in the eighties and even till the early nineties.but our dear ARR has become stale even when he has composed for not more than 50 films totally.also he takes a tremendous time to compose and his BGM in fims is not at all impressive. IR's BGM in kaadhalukku mariyathai alone was the talk of the town for some time.so these are the reasons why people are ditching ARR.
  
  
• From: NaNbaN (@ 205.214.209.10) on: Sat Jun 20 18:35:00 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay ,
  
  I agree with you. But one cannot expect ARR to score BGM like IR. He has his own
  limitation.
  
  My point is , Film directors (FD) are not good enough to get the stuff out of ARR (especially BGM). IR was interested and had every knowledge, imagination and skill to score BGM,so most of the FD's escaped. Now, thier true colors are coming out.
  
  Who asked IR to score good BGM in the past?. Answers is NOBODY. He was so interested in doing BGM, that he himself drove the BGM of TFM to new heights. I guess he even turned down some HINDI offers, because his earlier (HINDI) movie was RE-Recorded by somebody else, which he didn't like.
  
  The first Director of whose very specfic about
  BGM was Director Mahedran ( Uthri Pukkal ,
  Johny, etc....). Some of the BGM score for
  Uthri Pukkal is really unbelievable. The way
  Mahendran used it is also equally fantastic.
  
  Only after this BharathiRaja(BR) and also BaluMahendra Joined the BGM group.
  
  If you see BR's movies before Kallukul ErRam you can undertsand the diifference.
  
  Even BaluMahendra's film MuduPani does not
  have excellent BGM compared to his later movies.
  
  During MSV days the BGM used to compliment
  the scene. Then never thought of Enhancing the Scene with BGM. Except very few. That too lately by Director Sridhar effort.
  
  So, Now, taking into account , the Kind of
  directors in TF and imagination of ARR. It highly
  unlikely to see IR-type BGM from ARR.
  
  Coming to the Time, Surely ARR has to work on it. But Directors too have to work. They can't have a messy schedule and demand
  BGM in 3 days.
  
  And you know, most the FD's complian about ARR's SPEED of his BGM but not the quality.
  
  They just need some scores to be finished as a movie with ARR stamp (ofcourse with good song). They are not really much bothered about BGM
  
  Only the top FD's like mani , Shankar, KB,
  Worry about BGM.
  
  I am not sure of the so called RIFT between
  Shankar and ARR. Its still a gossip right!.
  
  So, Lets wait for confirmation.
  
  But, I totally agree with Mr.Vijay the fact that ARR's BGM is not impressive
  and sometimes BAD also.
  
  RE-Tuning,
  NaNbaN
  
  
• From: premkumar (@ ) on: Sat Apr 10 01:31:45 EDT 2004
  
  hello sir I want tamil director p.c.sriram address
  
  
• From: Ilayaraja (@ 195.92.67.71) on: Sat Apr 10 03:09:24 EDT 2004
  
  Basta$rd Vijay - There is no such news..Dont give false information u punk pimp!!
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.143) on: Sat Apr 10 03:47:32 EDT 2004
  
  RED ALERT:
  ARR FANS, DO NOT WASTE UR TIME POSTING UR MESSAGE ON THIS PAGE..........
  
  
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