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MELLISAI MANNAR MSV - THE SENIOR MAESTRO WITH EVERLASTING TFM HITS

Topic started by Chiranjeevi (@ 202.9.169.38) on Fri Mar 2 09:00:36 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

It is beyond doubt that MSV has served the tfm industry in its golden period. His tunes are still ringing on the air beyond generations. In an era of lacking facilities, non digital, full orchestra, single track recording, MSV has done great tuning, orchestration and a variety of rhythm arrangements. This doyen has no replacement in the industry and is unique. His melodies are still listened to in the radio, TVs and also sung in almost all the stage performances.

This great master with a variety of voices in his songs, variety of lyrical beauty with outstanding lyricist, has NOT GOT EVEN A SINGLE NATIONAL AWARD RECOGNITION TILL DATE. SO WAS THE CASE WITH HIS SINGERS LIKE TMS, SIRKAZHI GOVINDARAJAN, PBS etc., who worked for tfm.

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Responses:

• From: Abdul (@ 203.199.233.16) on: Sat Mar 3 07:05:00 EST 2001
  
  Melodies and fame through the melodies are greater than the national awards. That should have been the philosophy of MSV and singers of his golden days.
  
  
• From: Chechu (@ 210.214.3.15) on: Sun Mar 4 01:45:05 EST 2001
  
  Sure for this senior maestro who has influenced all the MDs to be awarded with a national recognition very soon. He deserves it than any other MD. The longivity of his everlasting hits will stand proof.
  
  
• From: mani (@ 203.197.134.8) on: Sun Mar 4 12:33:57 EST 2001
  
  Ha, this is the thread I was looking out for.
  
  MSV did all his songs with TMS and Suseela in late 60s. All were super hits no doubt and as usual there was a blind following by other Music directors, (-like what is happening today) to blame the market and used the same voices.
  
  Many singers suffered lack of oppurtunities. Some singers like Loganathan, Sirkazhi and AM Raja were branded with different styles like Philosophical songs which came rarely.
  
  Now the whole scene has changed, Thankless job has resulted MSV to listen his own songs commented as MGR song, TMS song etc.,in literally all TV interviews without bothering to mention his name and as usual the tfm field which ignores seniority does it to him as well.
  
  One good thing with MSV is his everlasting melodies, of course, his rapport with the fans and masses, his appreciation to young music directors and singers and his being an embodiment of humility. He is being too good (eg. assists and plays harmonium for Ilarajas ?stage singing) to every body without differentiating.
  
  This quality which is unique with senior musicians should not be taken as a testimony for all the cases, for he has praised unworthy people as well.
  
  
• From: Ramani (@ 203.197.243.232) on: Sat Mar 10 12:09:05 EST 2001
  
  Poor old lion of film music.
  
  He should try something in this new trend with voices AR Rahman, YSR - Screechy and squeeeky!
  
  
• From: Kripa (@ 210.214.135.196) on: Wed Mar 14 04:46:29 EST 2001
  
  Why didnt he use Sirkali in 70s and 80s is questioned in a different forum. Does anybody have a genuine answer? Or is it because he had lesser number of films than IR who was doing more at that time. Is it true that after Annakili MSV called IR for assisting his music?
  
  
• From: ravi k.s. ravichandran (@ 128.110.251.70) on: Fri Mar 16 21:46:36 EST 2001
  
  MSV is great..
  
  Most postings talk about his famous duets. But MSV is a great orchestrator and composer.
  
  Just listen to "Pattatthu Rani.." in Sivantha Mon..And "Yengay Nimmathi..." in Putiya Paravai..And "Mutthamo Mohamo.." in Parakkum Pavai.. These are far far ahead of time in TFM music those days. Sometime I think MSV exceeded even the best of IR we have seen. I mostly grew up in IR's period but when I listened to MSV's I get this impression.
  
  One of his GEM of GEMS is
  
  "Mangayaril Mahrani.." What a tune man !
  
  These things are to be preserved for generations to come.
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 202.54.94.54) on: Sat Mar 17 02:16:22 EST 2001
  
  how about
  " paartha gnabagam illayo?- puthiya paravai
  pesuvathu killiya
  anubhavam pudhumai" -kaathalikka neramillai
  the orchestration is simply astounding. it gives the listener goose pimples
  
  
• From: Usman (@ 203.197.134.96) on: Wed Mar 21 12:12:03 EST 2001
  
  MSV and Kannadasan, Oh what a combination. Ive seen MSV crying with tears whenever he talks about Kannadasan,. Whatever said and done those days, the titles with which they were called were 'natural' and not put on like present days thendrals, puyals and gnanis. Kaviyarasu meant Kannadasan, Mellisai Mannan for MSv, Nadigar thilagam Sivaji, Makkal thilagam MGR and so on.
  Long live MSV the great maestro.
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 202.54.94.54) on: Thu Mar 22 07:20:12 EST 2001
  
  usmaan bhai,
  paavam ivargalin pizhaigalai poruthu arulvom. kannadasan & visu-ramu/ visu were made for each other. it is only fortunate that we are able to take a plungeinto the ocean that they have left us & come with muthukkal everytime.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.242) on: Thu Mar 22 08:22:58 EST 2001
  
  Well to me, MSV's & other musicians' music couldn't penetrate in me. Their music all seems to be juz song accompanyment. Nothing more.
  
  I feel only gnani's music alone can do that. And he don even need lyrics to support. His music seems to be a class of its own...juz flows into ur blood...u noe wat i mean.
  
  Only he seem to have done that and still doing that.
  
  
• From: Arunsarat (@ 203.199.233.11) on: Sat Mar 24 13:47:14 EST 2001
  
  Ravi ksr - There is no doubt that MSV is a king of orchestration. He is the only music director to have dictated notes straight, with his harmonium and created a harmony with a hundred piece orchestra those days, extempore, with all the musicians around in the recording studio, doing a single time recording with the singers.
  
  Not like the recent trends with seperate track recording punching system with which people give all craps.
  
  Ambleen - I disagree to what you say. Your tastes are not eternal. Just try listening to such numbers which is soaked in your blood after six more months. You will know your status then. MSV tunes, be it 1960/70/80/90, you cannot end a day without listening to his compositions, especially with the combination of TMS,PS and Kannadasan. They have stood the test of time and are already in the circulation and nerves of millions and millions of tfm fans. This is no secret. Be practical and sensible.
  
  
• From: Arunsurat (@ 203.199.233.11) on: Sat Mar 24 13:49:15 EST 2001
  
  Ambleen - "? Gnani still doing?" Ha Ha! Are you joking?
  
  
• From: Rams (@ 202.144.64.131) on: Sun Mar 25 10:01:35 EST 2001
  
  MSVs service is phenomenal. Name anything in film music industry and he has it, a good sample for it.
  Traditional literature - Vinayagar agaval in the film Namm Kuzhandaigal.
  Navagraha Krithi - A song on Navagrahams in the film Ganga Gowri. All of the above sung by Seeyazhi Govindarajan in 70-80.
  
  Bharathidasan songs - Thamizhukkum Amudhendru per, Sanhe Muzhangu, Pudhiyador Ulagam seivom.
  
  Bharathiyar songs- Sindunadiyin misai nilavinile, Sinnanchiru kiliye(latest version in SAChandrasekars movie), Nallador veenai seidhe in Varumayin niram sivappu.
  Hundreds and hundreds of kavidhais of-
  Kannadasan, Pattukkotai, Vaali, and other lyricists, composed with melody and without disturbing the lyrical or voice beauty.
  
  He cent percent has Everlasting film hits.
  
  
• From: Jeyaram (@ 202.54.35.149) on: Sun Mar 25 11:50:53 EST 2001
  
  Hi all,
  
  It is happy to see that there are people with good knowledge on MSV music, who, undoubtedly, is the biggest trend setter in TFM till date.
  
  His versatality is unique. What a variety of tunes(even based on same ragam) for variety of situations (bhavam) sung by variety of singers!!!
  He has handled with great ease all the systems of music ( Carnatic, Hindustani, Western , Pop, Folk etc.) with his own stamp. In a period of Jambawans in Hindi film world, his tunes stood very unique and different. Even, if we look at the style of his music in every decade from 50s to 80s (till when he was active), it is very much different for every decade. Most of all, his tunes were simply matchless and as a creative person, it is very difficult to imagine such flow of music. ( Someone has written about "Mangayaril Makarani". Can some one forget, "Yamuna Nadhi inge" (Gouravam), "Karpanaiyo Kai vandhado " (Malathi) and so on.......?
  
  I had a pleasant opportunity to meet MSV at his residence for about 45 min after 8 PM 5 years back. I just went to meet him without any notice. I never expected, such a great person would entertain an ordinary person like me for 45 minutes and talking about music. If anyone can join me, we might have an intense session with MSV (purely on his music).
  
  All certain done, I think he has not been given the due recognition he deserves. Only his time tested music provides the answer for this also.
  
  It would be very nice, if we analyse his music in TFM (with our own limitations).
  
  Jeyaram
  
  
• From: P.Ramesh (@ ) on: Sun Dec 21 23:56:53 EST 2003
  
  hI
  MSv just released book(22 dec).I don't have details of the same.pl let me know from where we can buy the same.
  Ramesh
  
  
• From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162) on: Mon Dec 22 01:36:35 EST 2003
  
  Biography Release Report:
  Biography on MSV written by Rani maindhan
  6.30 PM 20-DEC-03 Saturday
  
  It was a great evening filled with Emotions.
  
  Stalwarts in a stage. Yes Naushad,MSV,V.Dakshinamoothy,T.K.Ramamoorthy,T.R.Pappa,Vaali,S.P.Muthuraman,K.Balachander,Sivakumar,P.B.Sreenivos,A.VM.Saravanan,Cho,Illayaraja,DD Director Natarajan,Nalli kuppusamy,R.M.Veerappan.
  
  I was blessed to See all in one hall/one stage
  
  & you will not believe, down the stage along with me were the others from film industry/Writers .
  yes, Pughazendhi,Balakumaran, R.C.sakthi,Seerkzhi sivachidambaram,Bharadwaj,Deva,Muthulingam,Kamakotiyan,Poovilangu mohan,Nagesh,Rajesh were present..
  
  The programme started off with a kid singing Kurai ondrum illai
  Since naushad ali had to leave early he released the book & Veteran V.Dakshinamoorthy received the first copy.
  
  Naushad praised MSV (in hindi translated by PBS)
  
  then Naushad Left .. till that time MSV was standing.. He sat only after Naushad Left.
  
  AVM Saravanan started off the Programme with his speech.Sivakumar followed. He cited many songs in many Category and mentioned TMS,Seerkazhi,PS,PBS & VJ.He also cited some of the pages from the book.
  All others speech were short & sweet..
  
  KB's speech was filled with emotions..
  Illayaraja -- Sang the Malai pozhudin & said PS's Singing & MSV-TKR's tune brought me life..
  
  Illayaraja said what ever fame he's got till now , is the Guru Kanikkai .. he said i'll surrender those at MSV's feet..
  
  Last was Vaali.. KB,Sivakumar all said we've got time before Vaali because Once Vaali starts we will not have anything to speak & his speech will be speech of the Day ..It was true..
  
  Vaali said .. MSV'ya paarkum mun enakku ore PASI
  MSV'ya paartha pin naan ore BUSY..
  
  He said indha vittil pochai vimanam aakiyavar MSV..
  
  Naan ingu nirkiren endral andhu MSV'yal than
  
  he remembered many incidents ...
  
  PBS spoke in Praise of MSV by singing Paal vannam, hindi song, Pon enben..
  
  Finally MSV delivered his speech
  
  It was a Great Evening
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.210.33.124) on: Mon Dec 22 05:17:15 EST 2003
  
  Illayaraja said what ever fame he's got till now , is the Guru Kanikkai .. he said i'll surrender those at MSV's feet..
  
  
  ithu thaan IR. avarukku egonnu solra ellorumkkum IR in intha mugam oru arimugama irukattum. intha humblesnessukku pinnadi entha business venturum illai, entha thoodhi paadalum illai. manasukku pattathai aapdiyae pesura oru kuzhanthai madri enga IR evalavo usarathukku poitaar. let MSV and IR live longer and cherish their emotional relationship.
  
  

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