Topic started by Ram (@ 203.199.192.195) on Fri May 31 10:03:03 EDT 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
I am waiting for your responses. I shall assure it goes in the rightway. The considerations are
1. Ability to give music to all situations
2. Music for all audiance.
3. Music for Musically inclined.
4. Originality.
5. Non Westernization ( I hope we are indians and love indian form of music and no need to borrow any other form) ( I am not kidding :)) )
6.BGM and interlude works
7. Musical instruments and recording facilities available at the time of music.
Etc..
Please come out with your thoughts and lets all decide now....
Catch you later
Ram.
Responses:
- From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Fri May 31 10:31:53 EDT 2002
Aiya marupadiyuma, unghazai thiruthave ellathu :((
- From: curses (@ 203.199.231.182)
on: Fri May 31 23:10:47 EDT 2002
final decision..
ARR-IR war is too big to be decided in 1 thread. It just keeps overflowing into other threads relevent or not.
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.44.241)
on: Sat Jun 1 01:23:26 EDT 2002
I think IR is too great to be compared with IR. It is just like comparing John Williams with Deva.
- From: kk (@ 172.175.6.63)
on: Sat Jun 1 03:51:11 EDT 2002
WCM is not westernisation?
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.95)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:32:24 EDT 2002
I think IR is too great to be compared with IR. It is just like comparing John Williams with Deva.
I think Uthaman is comparing the IR of the past with the IR of the present.
Even then, comparing IR present with Deva is too much. Deva is still giving many excellent songs.
- From: jaypee (@ 203.197.134.18)
on: Sat Jun 1 08:53:31 EDT 2002
I have noted an interesting characterstic of IR in the mid and late 90's.ie film personalities who have given 1 0r 2 hits without IR's music ( SAR, Sirpy, Deva et al)ultimately failed when used IR or his family for his next movie.
few examples :
1)Cheran : Bharathi Kannama, Porkaalam (Deva) hits
Desiaya Geetham (IR) flop
2) Parthiban : Puthyia padhai (Chandrabose ) hit
Pondatti thevai (his second film) flop
3) Sundar C : Ullathai Allitha , Mettukudi ( Sirpy) hits
NAm iruvar NAmakku Iruvar (Karthik raja)
4) K.s.Ravikumar : Puriyatha Puthir ( SAR) , Cheran Pandiayan (Soundaryan) hits
Sakthivel ( IR ) Flop
5) Prabudeva : Indu ( Deva), Kadhalan (ARR) hits
Rasaiya (IR ) flop
6) Vijay : Senthurappandi, Rasigan,Deva,Vishnu (alll hit by deva)
Chandralekha (vijay and vanitha vijaya kumar, remember?) was a flop
can some one add more to this list?
- From: maman machan (@ 194.54.238.10)
on: Sat Jun 1 09:54:50 EDT 2002
whoever wears a saree a bit low on her waist cant be termed a prostitute,whoever composes music cant be compared to raaja,dirty example for a third rated,uncouth as= hole f=cker like ram
- From: Raji (@ 203.166.96.236)
on: Sat Jun 1 10:23:14 EDT 2002
How come Vijay's Kathallukku mariyathai became hit?
Who told you that these failures were due to Ilayarajah's music.
What happened to Ratchagan where Rahuman composed the music. Are you telling us that Rahuman's music was bad (Acutally storyline was bad. We love Ilarajah's music.But We respect Rahuman as well.
You can argue anything you want. But you should atleast have some sort of knowledge of what is being criticised. Jai...Pee good name to have these thoughts.
- From: Aparajith (@ 203.199.192.195)
on: Wed Jun 5 07:46:20 EDT 2002
Yeah! We are on roll.
I don't have a second openion about IR's music. But at the same time I dont want to forget that He has also given a lot of "Sutta pazham" music.
(Copied or innovated to be decent ) music.
Ex Cancione Y Danza By Antonio Ruiz-Pipo in Murattukkalai "Endha Poovilum"
Theme Music By Flash Dance in Love Theme By Ilaiyaraja From Mouna Ragam
Etc..
He has given copied/innovated music from western music when we are not this much exposed to western music and we are not even aware of that.
Any Objections.?
We should not run about emotions.. Like maman Machan... who is not damn enough to show his name or ID .Just Use your brain If you have it in you...
- From: curses (@ 203.199.248.73)
on: Wed Jun 5 09:33:50 EDT 2002
uh oh!!
- From: boardsover (@ 202.9.180.226)
on: Thu Jun 6 06:31:52 EDT 2002
ugalukku sutta pazham vedum sudatha pazham venduma???
- From: Pras (@ 193.56.241.19)
on: Thu Jun 6 07:04:08 EDT 2002
sutta koli venum, pasikuthu !
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Thu Jun 6 07:51:44 EDT 2002
ROTFL:
--I think IR is too great to be compared with IR. It is just like comparing John Williams with Deva.
I think Uthaman is comparing the IR of the past with the IR of the present. Even then, comparing IR present with Deva is too much. Deva is still giving many excellent songs.
ROTFL, you have a terrific sense of humour. Thats for a good laugh.
BUT..IR of today is still very good, though nowhere compared to yesterday's IR...check out IVAN for a brilliant classical score. Azhagi is one more example. Forget whether or not its a hit.
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.91)
on: Thu Jun 6 08:04:21 EDT 2002
AVR
I beg to disagree.
But since I don't want to give "life" to this moronic thread, I shall say no further.
- From: magix (@ 203.199.231.180)
on: Thu Jun 6 08:05:55 EDT 2002
"no further"!
- From: magix (@ 203.199.231.180)
on: Thu Jun 6 08:06:08 EDT 2002
"no further"!
- From: curses (@ 203.199.231.180)
on: Thu Jun 6 08:07:03 EDT 2002
stupid spacebar!
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.91)
on: Thu Jun 6 08:20:48 EDT 2002
say "no further."
not type "no further."
This is what you get for trying to be smart.
- From: magix (@ 203.199.231.1)
on: Thu Jun 6 11:44:41 EDT 2002
well that was within double quotes, and it interprets that it is speech!!
This is what u get for tryin to mess w/ magix! ;)
ROTFL.. I can see that u r MADDDD at me. cool down.. and sorry!!
- From: boardsover (@ 202.9.181.181)
on: Thu Jun 6 12:59:32 EDT 2002
magix englipis-la romba strong pola theriyuthu :)
- From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25)
on: Mon Jun 10 04:12:59 EDT 2002
Even then, comparing IR present with Deva is too much. Deva is still giving many excellent songs.
The sense of humour of ROFTL is once again apprciated.
- From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Mon Jun 10 04:13:25 EDT 2002
Even then, comparing IR present with Deva is too much. Deva is still giving many excellent songs.
The sense of humour of ROFTL is once again apprciated.
- From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Mon Jun 10 04:14:04 EDT 2002
Even then, comparing IR present with Deva is too much. Deva is still giving many excellent songs.
The sense of humour of ROFTL is once again apprciated.
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.133) on: Mon Jun 10 13:26:54 EDT 2002
done??
cut the italix!!
- From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Mon Jun 10 04:13:25 EDT 2002
- From: Harinatha (@ 202.62.76.163)
on: Tue Jun 11 00:39:44 EDT 2002
No doubt only one who is Mastro.
Rahman takes 6 months for one movie.IL will do the same thing with in a week.
- From: ashok (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Tue Jun 11 01:30:07 EDT 2002
Who Is the Best IR or ARR?
>> IR was best
>> IR is best
>> IR will be best
As a person I respect Rehman. But cannot compare with IR.
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.76.115)
on: Tue Jun 11 01:39:36 EDT 2002
a good thread spoilt into a street-fight..:( ... but it will be a lot more good if it stops comparing and goes 'in general'
- From: ashok (@ 156.153.254.41)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:02:29 EDT 2002
MY COMMENTS WAS A street-fight.. ???? Vj
- From: ashok (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:04:25 EDT 2002
may be u have not seen threads that is not worst than a street-fight. U can refer back to treads in forum and then comment.
- From: Kiran (@ 210.187.7.46)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:25:42 EDT 2002
SAY IF U GIVE A QUESTION PAPER ... IR ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY AND BRILLIANTLY AND FINISHES BEFORE TIME...BUT AR ANSWERS ALL BY WRITING....ERASING... REWRITING AND FINALLY FINISHES AFTER THE TIME IS OVER LONG BACK ....BUT HE WILL SEE THAT ANSWER PAPER IS NICE WITH SIDE HEADINGS ...UNDERLINE..NEW PARAGRAPH...COLOURED HEADINGS....ETC...SO WHO IS BEST ...WELL IF U R EXAMINER(PRODUCER)U WILL THROW THE PAPER ON HIS FACE FOR SUBMITTING WITH LOT DELAY...IF U ARE NOT (AUDIENDCE)...U ARE IGNORANT OF ORIGINAL GENIUS....HEE HEE !!
- From: Kiran (@ 210.187.7.46)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:27:25 EDT 2002
SAY IF U GIVE A EXAM QUESTION PAPER ... IR ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY AND BRILLIANTLY AND FINISHES BEFORE TIME...BUT AR ANSWERS ALL BY WRITING....ERASING... REWRITING AND FINALLY FINISHES AFTER THE TIME IS OVER LONG BACK ....BUT HE WILL SEE THAT ANSWER PAPER IS NICE WITH SIDE HEADINGS ...UNDERLINE..NEW PARAGRAPH...COLOURED HEADINGS....ETC...SO WHO IS BEST ...WELL IF U R EXAMINER(PRODUCER)U WILL THROW THE PAPER ON HIS FACE FOR SUBMITTING WITH LOT DELAY...IF U ARE NOT (i.e. if u r AUDIENDCE)...THEN U WILL BE IGNORANT OF ORIGINAL GENIUS(IR) ....HEE HEE !!
- From: Kiran (@ 210.187.7.46)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:29:15 EDT 2002
TAKE THE SECOND PARA PLEASE FROM ABOVE..
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:37:20 EDT 2002
A Mason finishes the house construction in just 9 months.The stupid sculptor takes years to chisle out.
You have thousands of flats/buildings in chennai.So What is great about Mahabalipuram?
- From: ashok (@ 156.153.254.41)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:38:31 EDT 2002
good one KIRAN....
- From: Rajesh (@ 203.92.84.189)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:42:54 EDT 2002
Your comparison is not correct here. As far as I understand, we are not talking about a mason and a sculptor here. We are talking about two masons completing the construction of a building or two sculptors involved in chistling. What if one of the sculptor just takes less than 1/10th the time and ekes out better than Mahabalipuram
- From: ashok (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Tue Jun 11 02:47:39 EDT 2002
well I suppose sculptor.
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