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Before You Start another "IR Vs ARR" Crap Thread..

Topic started by twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on Mon Dec 31 07:35:13 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I guess that most of the IR Vs ARR threads are posted because the person posting it neither understands IR nor ARR as a personality. Even worse, they do not understand that IR & ARR have a mutual respect for each other. Since a good majority of avid ARR supporters are very young, they might not understand IR as a personality. This thread is meant to help you understand IR better. The following is an interview by IR in a magazine KALKI...Thanks for SATHYA KEERTHI, a member of TFM who translated this interview...

Kalki: ungaL naalu kaal paaychchalai endha padaththil kaiyaaNdirukkireergaL?

IR: idhuvaraikkum naan appadiyellaam paayavillai!
idhuvaraikkum naan seydhiruppadhellaam verum
appaLamum oorugaayumdhaan.

Kalki: neengaL arusuvai uNavaiyE parimaarugireergaL endruthaan naangaL uNargiROm.

IR: verum appaLam oorugaaikkE ippadi solgireergaL
endraal, naan arusuvai uNavai nijamaagavE
parimaarinaal neengaL enna aaveergaL? (sirippu).
appadiyellaam parimaarugira sandharppam enakku
innum varavillai.

Kalki: enna ippadi solgireergaL?

IR: Cinema enbadhu oruvidha formula-vaaga pazhagippOna vishayam. idharkuththaan makkaL thalai aattuvaargaL. ennidam koNduvarap padugindra paaththiram kaaliyaaga irundhaalthaanE naan adhil Ethaavadhu pOda mudiyum?
neengaL koNdu varugira pOthE andha paaththiraththil ethaiyaavadhu pOttu nirappiththaan koNdu varugireergaL. adharkku mElum adhil naan enna pOda mudiyum? ellaa Cinema-vilum love song varugiradhu; kiNdal seygira paadalum varugiradhu. idhil yaar enna pudhumai
seydhuvida mudiyumendru karudhugireergaL?

... etc. about movies

Kalki: endha padaththilaavadhu ungaLukku migavum
Emaatramaay irundhadhu endru solla mudiyumaa?

IR: aaramba kaalangaLil eththanai eththanaiyO ...

Kalki: ippOthu?

IR: ippOdhu pazhagip pOy vittadhu! (sirippu)

Kalki: Emaatram pazhakip pOy vittadhaa alladhu
Emaatram illaamal seyvadhu pazhagip pOy vittadhaa?

IR: Ematram pazhagip pOy vittadhu! (sirippu)

... more talk about film songs, songs without good taste, famous directors going away from him etc.

Kalki: How to Name It, Nothing but wind endru 2
albums koduththeergaL. appuram En kodukkavillai?

IR: adharkkaaga nEram odhukka mudiyaathathuthaan
kaaraNam.

Kalki: How to name it-il "I met Bach in my house"
paadalil oruvar veetukkuL varugira maathiriyum avarai katti thazhuvi varaverkira maathiriyum kaatchi roobamaana oru vishayaththai isiyin moolamaagavE kaNmun koNdu vandhirukkireergaL. adhai eppadi seydheergaL?

IR: adhu original composition of Bach. adhil varugira Indian melody mattumdhaan ennudaya composition. adhil oLindhirukkak koodiya raagangaLai mattumdhaan naan veLiyE koNdu vandhEn. andha raagangaLukku andha vadivangaL irukkiradhenbadhu mErkkaththiyargaLukku
theriyaadhu. mErkaththiya isaiyil uLLa raagangaLai enakku therindha varai veLiyE koNdu vandhirukkiREn. 16-m nootraaNdil Bach adhai uruvaakkiyapOdhE irundhadhuthaan adhu. inninna idaththil inninna raagangaL irukkindrana enbadhi adkkOttittu kaattiya paNithaan ennudaiyadhu.

Kalki: ungaLudaya paadalgaLai silar veLippadaiyaaga copy adikkum pOdhu ungaLudaya uNarvu eppadi irukkum?

IR: illaathavargaL eduththuk koLgiraargaL; adhu
patri enna irukkiradhu? (sirippu)

Kalki: ungaLukku endru viruppamaana raagangaL Edhum uNdaa? edhan meedhaavadhu ungaLukku atheetha layippu uNdaa?

IR: appadiyellaam edhuvum illai. ellaamE music music music. adhil eppadi piriththup paarkka mudiyum?

Kalki: isai enbadhu oru inimaiyaana vishayamdhaan. aanaal oru samayaththil ungaLudaya isai, paadal varigaLai, vaarththaigaLai kEtka mudiyaamal dominate seydhadhaaga oru sarchchai ezhundhadhu. adhu uNmaiyum kooda ...

IR: endha paadal endru sollungaLEn...

Kalki: niraya paadalgaL isaithaan kEtkumE thavira, vaarththai puriyaathu.

IR: puriyaathathai neengaL En kEtkireergaL? andha
vaarththaigaL puriyak koodaathu - avvaLavu mattamaaga ezhuthi irukkiraargaL enbadharkkaagak kooda appadi seydhirukkalaam illayaa? (sirippu)

Kalki: adhu pOndra kavinjargaLai neengaL En ookkuvikka vENdum?

IR: EdhO kaalam!

... IR explains why he still agreed to put music
for such songs.

Kalki: sari, meendum ungaL albuthukku varuvOm. Yaani, M.Jackson aagiyOrudaya albungaLai kEtkum
pOdhum ungaLudayathai kEtkum pOdhum paamara rasigargaLaana engaLukku endha vidhamaana vidhyaasamum theriyavillai. adhaavadhu isaiyin
tharaththai solgirOm. aanaalum avargaLudaya
album popular aana aLavukku isaiyil endha vidhaththilum tharam kurayaatha
ungaLudaya albungaL popular aagaathatharkku
enna kaaraNam? ulagath tharam endru Edhaavadhu
irukkindrathaa enna?

IR: adhu veLippadugiRa idaththaip poRuththu irukkiRathu. indhiyaavil veLippadugiRa pOdhu appadi irukkiRathu.

Kalki: edhanaal appadi?

IR: ulagath tharam endru paarkkira pOthu, mudhalil recording tharaththaiththaan paarkkiraargaL. appadi paarththaal indha 2 albumumE andha tharaththukku keezhEdhaan. niraya thavaru irukkiradhu.

Kalki: neengaL kurippidugira indha technical-aana thavaru engaLukku theriyavillayE!

IR: indha technical-aana thavarugaL illaamal
naan kodukkira pOdhu andha isai innum eppadi irukkum endru ninaiththup paarungaL! ivvaLavu kuraigaL uLLa ondraiyE iththanai niraivaaga irukkiradhendru neengaL pEsugireergaL endraal, innum fine-sound-il koduththaal eppadi uNarveergaL! ithilellaam avargaL romba thErchchi petravargaL. 24 maNi nEraththil avargaL 12 maNi nEram saadhagam seygiraargaL. appadi saadhagam seybavargaL oru sadjamam seydhaalE pOdhum; kEttuk koNdE irukkalaam. ingu appadiyillai. Learning-ai vida earning adhigamaagi vittadhu. Carnatic sangeedhaththil kooda 10 keerththanaigaLai katruk koNdadhumE kachchEri seyyaththaan aasaip padugiraargaL. mElum mElum katruk koLvadhu kuraindhu pOgiradhu. ippadippatta soozhnilaiyil eppadi naam avargaL tharaththukkup pOga mudiyum?

Kalki: neengaL isaiyai ezhuthugireergaL endru
solgiraargaL. adhu eppadi?

IR: manadhil kEtpadhai appadiyE ezhuthugiren.

Kalki: adharkku EdhEnum thanip payirchi eduththuk
koNdeergaLaa?

IR: isai, isai, isai endru paiththiyaaagavE aaga
vENdum. (sirippu!)

Kalki: oru Senior endra muraiyil ARR iaiamaippu
eppadi endru sollungaLEn.

IR: nandraaga seygiraar. naanum ungaLaip pOl
isaikku rasigan thaanE!

Kalki: ungaL magan Karthik Raja?

IR: avanum nandraagavE seygiraan.

After saying "iraivanukku aduththa nilaiyil iruppadhu isaidhaan" ...

Kalki: ungaLukku pidiththa isai amaippaaLar yaar?

IR: vada indhiyaavil enakku pidiththavargaL ...
SriRamachandra, Naushad, S.D.Burman, MadanMohan.
ivargaLellaam Cinema-vukkaaga thangaLai sEthap
paduththik koLLaadhavargaL. Anarkali padaththirkku isai amaikka Naushad-ai
aNuginaargaL. Thamakku 1 latcha roobaay thara vENdum endraar. appOdhu athu periya thogai. Sari endraargaL. andhap padaththukku isai amaikka thamakku 2 aaNdugaL aagum endraar. aththanai kaalam thangaLaal kaaththirukka mudiyaadhu enbadhaal, avar tharaththukku isai amaikkak koodiya innoruvarai avarE sibaarisu seyya vENdum endraargaL. avar SriRamachandra-vai sibaarisu seydhaar. avarai aNugiya pOdhu, "naan orE maadhaththil isai amaiththu tharugiren. aanaal Naushad-ukku 1 latcha roobaai tharuvadhaaga oppuk koNdadhaal enakku 1.5 latcha roobaai thara vENdum" endraaraam. athanpadiyE thandhaargaL. padam vandhadhu. aththanai paadalgaLum super hits. (Zindagi ... endru thodangum Anarkali padap paadalai paadik kaaNbikkiraar.)

Roshan oru padaththukku isai amaikkum pOdhu,
paadalil oru kELviyai vaippaar. MadanMohan thamadhu padaththukku iasi amaikkum pOdhu, thamadhu paadalil, munnavar vaiththa kELvikku badhil solluvaar! munnavar irandha pOdhu, pinnavar vandhu, "ini yaarukku
naan badhil solluvEn?" endru azhthaar.
Isai amaippaaLargaL endraal appadiyallaavaa
irukka vENdum ...

Kalki: ungaLukku isai thavira Photography-ilum
aarvam uNdu endru kELvip padugiROm...

IR: aamaam. kOvilgaLukku sellum pOdhu Camera-vaiyum eduththuk koNdu pOvEn. (thaam eduththa padangaLai koNdu vandhu kaattugiraar. aththanaiyum kOvilgaL, iyarkaik kaatchigaL endru sirappaana padangaL.)

Kalki: ella padangaLum sirappaaga irukkindrana.

IR: indraikku miga arumaiyaana Camera-kkaL
vandhuvittana. en pangu migak kuraivudhaan.

Kalki: Camera padamthaan edukkum. aanaal neengaLO
ovvoru padaththaiyum isai pOlavE sirappaaga
compose seydhu eduththirukkireergaL. Pirasuraththukku sila padangaLai thara mudiyumaa?

IR: indha padangaLaik koNdu oru pugaip pada
kaNkaatchi nadaththuvadharkkaana ErpaadugaL
nadandhu koNdirukkindrana. adhu mudindhadhum
tharugindrEn.
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Here are links to interviews by IR, courtesy raajangahm.com This should further enhance your understanding of IR as a person....

Maestro Ilayaraaja's first song performance and how he became a composer - http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/03Columbo.ram

Maestro Ilayaraaja on his early days of struggle in Madras. -
http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/05Columbo.ram

Maestro Ilayaraaja on his hobbies, and family -
http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/09Columbo.ram

Maestro Ilayaraaja and S. P. Balasubramanium talk music - Part I.
http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/10Columbo.ram

Maestro Ilayaraaja and S. P. Balasubramanium talk music - Part II.
http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/11Columbo.ram

Maestro Ilayaraaja on carnatic music, film music, and Mahakavi Bharathiar.
http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/13Columbo.ram

Maestro Ilayaraaja and S. P. Balasubramanium talk music.
http://www.raajangahm.com/real/interviews/ILAIYARAAJA_Nite_At_Kottayam_2.ram

Please for heavens sake don't start meaningless threads that finally end up with people bashing IR & ARR...

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Responses:

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• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.61.126) on: Thu Mar 14 07:31:07 EST 2002
  
  Ethukku Vels?
  So that you can be the judge, jury and prosecutor? :)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Thu Mar 14 07:39:29 EST 2002
  
  :-)ROTFL, i don't judge anyone. In that area, i follow jesus christ's words,"Judge Ye Not" :-) [for instance, i don't spearhead any "generalization campaigns" against say ARR Fans :-)). But u might see some ppl starting off posts like,"IR Fans generally are....etc etc etc..." day in and day out...yawns]
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.152) on: Thu Mar 14 07:43:26 EST 2002
  
  or u yawning?
  laesa enna kuthi kattara maari irrukku! :)
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.152) on: Thu Mar 14 07:44:00 EST 2002
  
  typo: r u yawning? ;)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.61.126) on: Thu Mar 14 07:44:31 EST 2002
  
  That's because ARR fans cannot be generalised. :)
  They do not need to "prove" anything. :)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Thu Mar 14 07:46:41 EST 2002
  
  yes twilight_zone,
  there's nothing u can generalise about ARR Fans' behaviour even if u wanted to. U dont see them starting hate threads, calling other DFers names and using swear words, starting ARR Worshipping threads which make no sense to the rest of the population etc. Hence even if u wanted to, the only thing u can say is tat they're a well behaved bunch mostly.
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Thu Mar 14 08:31:38 EST 2002
  
  yawn...another tiring "generalization" campaign...yawn again (magix, now u know the reason for the yawn)...btw, whynot, when is the due date of expiry for this "IR Fans Generalization Campaign" of yours? I wud like to know...(suppresses another yawn....)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Thu Mar 14 08:38:25 EST 2002
  
  twilight_zone,
  u know wat?
  I'd like to know when the expiry date for ur going around from thread to thread mentioning my name 'whynot' this and 'whynot' tat and pulling me into the picture and talking about some imaginary '"generalization" campaign'. I am more bored than u r. Which is why I dont bother to keep mentioning it (ur sposed imaginary campaign of mine) several times a day.
  
  

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