Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Wed Aug 27 16:06:40 EDT 2003
ponni nadhi OraththilE was sung by SPB, but it was a KVM song, not by Chandrabose. From a sudhakar film.
- From: OISG (@ 213.42.2.6)
on: Thu Aug 28 00:17:38 EDT 2003
The SPB-ChandraBose combination gave the good " Yaaro -Manmathan" set in Raag ChandraKauns.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.6)
on: Thu Aug 28 01:24:53 EDT 2003
bb, Udhaya,- 'Ponni nadhi' is from Kuruvikkoodu, yes by KVM.
OISG, 'yaaro manmathan' is a lovely song, from Raajaathi Rojakkili.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu Aug 28 02:22:11 EDT 2003
Song of the Day: kannan mananilaiyai thangamE thangam from Two films.
I present two versions of a Bharathiyaar song.
1. kaNNan mananilaiyE thangamE thangam from Ezhai padum paadu.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kannanmlv.rm
Sung by M.L.Vasanthakumari.
2. kaNNan mananilaiyE thangamE thangam from Dheivathin dheivam.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kannan.rm
Sung by S.Janaki.
- The first one is a thoroughly professional rendering by MLV, her carnatic background shows in her rendition. The song is in Atana(?). Randor Guy mentions this film as one of the classics in Tamil Cinema. Directed by K.Ramnath, *ing Naagaiah. Anyone with more information on this movie?
- The second song, though, is longer and more interesting. We get to see one of the earliest songs of SJ. MD is G.Ramanathan. The song itself is a Ragamalika, with mainly Aberi and Behag. The veeNai bits in this song are pretty good, and the composition seems to be classy. The song finishes off abruptly, not sure if it is a problem with the mp3. Thanks to Vijay for this song.
- Original lyrics of Bharathiyaar is here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/9687/bar41013.html
- Heard any good kaNNan songs lately? http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/13048.21:22:46.html
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu Aug 28 02:57:00 EDT 2003
Who is the MD for the first song?
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.6)
on: Thu Aug 28 03:09:18 EDT 2003
bb, EPP had music by SMS.
- From: raj (@ 202.54.137.100)
on: Thu Aug 28 03:26:34 EDT 2003
Nice Song From Deivathin Deivam
Directed by KSG had SSR,Vijayakumari,Geethanjali,SVR,Sandhya,M.V.Rajamma
Geethanjali - SSR's sister married to Vijayakumari's brother who dies in an Accident (during honey moon)
& the consequences is the Story
Music by the legend G.Ramanatha Iyer
The SOTD is a Great song
bur Pick from the Film is
"Nee illadha Ulagathile Nimmadhi Illai" by PS is more Popular
thanks for the Song
- From: raj (@ 202.54.137.100)
on: Thu Aug 28 03:59:34 EDT 2003
Udhaya ,
the best song of chandrabose was
"MEdhuva MEdhuva " from Anna NAgar Mudhal theru
Lyric by Vaali
Sung by SPB & Chitra
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.9.170.105)
on: Thu Aug 28 04:43:01 EDT 2003
I liked SJ version of Kannan ManaNilaiyai song.
I have heard MLV's other movie songs and classical songs. My certification is regardless on her singing capability. "Maarhazhith Thingal mathi Niraindtha" thirupavai of MLV version is the best in my opinin. But in this song, she somehow sings very heavily. I could feel nothing about it. In contrary SJ version is full of joy and pleasure. There is clearcut difference in PRE-IR SJ's voice and POST-IR SJ's voice. Was it because she was given high pitch songs?
even "ponnenbean" song starts with husky voice but switches to high pitch soon.
- From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112)
on: Thu Aug 28 09:52:09 EDT 2003
bb: Thanks for the songs especially the one by MLV. It is in ragamalika with Atana in the line 'choramizhaithidaiye'. The song was popular in my school days. If I remember correctly, the movie was based on 'Les Miserables'. Jaavar Seetharaman was the inspector chasing Nagaiah. I don' remember very much. The song is actually much longer. Thanks again for another Bharathi song. I used to sing a lot of them with Vellai thamarai being the most frequent.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu Aug 28 10:09:08 EDT 2003
G.Raghavan, I thought her voice changed sometime. As you said, there is a clearcut difference. I've not heard many of her old songs. Can someone dissect?
- From: pg (@ 199.50.29.40)
on: Thu Aug 28 10:43:15 EDT 2003
The inspector character is Javert. Thats how Seetharaman became Jaavar Seetharaman.
- From: sriram (@ 163.181.251.10)
on: Thu Aug 28 10:57:50 EDT 2003
bb,
I wrote a fairly long mail attaching a song for SOTD. Please tell me that you received it. I didn't save it. I am just too lazy to fix my ISP problems & send it again.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu Aug 28 11:50:49 EDT 2003
sriram, varallai :( balaji_cheenu at yahoo.com-kku anuppineengaLaa? or, if your name is Harinath, then I got it.
- From: sriram (@ 163.181.251.10)
on: Thu Aug 28 13:30:12 EDT 2003
I sent it to balaji@newtfmpage.com and I'm not Harinath. Oh, well!
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Thu Aug 28 13:35:48 EDT 2003
balaji@newtfmpage-kku anuppinaalum enakku varum.. ennaachu, theriyallai. oru vELai, Re:Thank You, Re:Application-nnu title kuduththu anuppineengaLaa? virus-nnu thookkip pOttiruppen :)
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Fri Aug 29 02:10:05 EDT 2003
Song of the Day: manthaara malarE from naan avan illai.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/manthara.rm
- A rare, classic song for the weekend!
- Saravanan writes:
‘Mandhaara malare’ from Naan Avanillai. Sung by P Jayachandran & LR Eswari. Music by MSV. Lyrics by Kannadasan & P Bhaskaran.
After a long search for the unabridged film version of the song, I finally found it in an unpretentious recording center in Bhavani. During my articleship years, I had gone for an audit in Erode, and while making neighbourly rounds in the weekend, I heard the opening LRE bit blaring from this shop in Bhavani, and got this and a few other elusive songs recorded then and there by the bemused chap in charge, who was looking askance at my excitement : )
This version is from the original sound track, and besides the soft LRE opening and JC’s dialogue, has some extended interludes, and a postlude as well.
* * * *
Sri Narayani Films’ Naan Avanillai-1974 starred Gemini Ganesh, Kamal Haasan, SV Sahasranamam, Lakshmi, Jayasudha, Jayabharathi, Kanthimathi, Asokan and many others. It was directed by K Balachandar and produced by Gemini Ganesh himself.
The film was an interesting tale of a beguiling philanderer who travels from place to place, assuming varied identities, luring pretty women and making them succumb to his charms. And even when he is facing his comeuppance, his glib unrepentant defence is ‘Naan avanillai’!
Ramaswami ‘Gemini’ Ganesan was 54 years old when he played the title role of the debonair deceiver, and it ranks among his most memorable performances. He made his debut in a minor role in Gemini’s Miss Malini-1947, and by 1974 his long innings as a hero had come a full circle. And Naan Avanillai marked a vibrant sunset on the career of this ‘Kaadhal Mannan’, whose real life affairs made his reel life ones pale in comparison! His later appearances in Lalitha and Unakkaga Naan-both 1976, are best forgotten. He continues acting in character roles – even as late as in Avvai Shanmugi-1996, he was simply brilliant.
* * * *
The other songs in Naan Avanillai are:
Radha kaadhal varaadha- Navaneethan geetham bodhai tharaadha- SPB & Chorus
Naan chinnanjiru pillai, en kannil kaadhal illai- PS & Chorus, with PBS reciting Hindi couplets in between: ‘Phalon bhare pedon par hi panchi udkar aathe hain--’
Ingey naan paruva kumari-LRE
‘Mandhaara malarae’ featured GG and perhaps Jayabharathi.
MSV ushers in the unique ambience of the ‘God’s Own Country’ by his chendai dominated orchestration. The song conjures up images of graceful kathakali movements with alternating swift and languorous moments. Some other songs by MSV in this genre are 'Swara Raga sruthiyodu vilayadum kaviye'(JC & VJ, Andha 7 Naatkal-1981) and 'Mei silirkkuthu' (JC & VJ, Mookanaankayiru-1985)
* * * *
This was among the earliest songs of Paaliyath Jayachandran in tfm. He had been singing in Malayalam films since the mid 60s. His tender timbre, marked by a tantalizing sweetness enriched the fabric of even a simple composition that came his way.MSV fell for JC’s voice in the early 70s, and in between his wonderful collaborations with KJY and SPB, still managed to save some breathtaking surprises for JC. JC won his first Kerala State Award in 1972 for a MSV composed ‘Suprabatham’ in the film Pani Theeratha Veedu. And in 1973, MSV escorted him into tfm with the enticing ‘Thanga chimizhppol idhazho, andha sanga thamizhppol mozhiyo’(Manippayal, with Pushpalatha), and followed it up with that unforgettable ‘Pon enna poovenna kannae, un kannadi ullathin munnae’(Alaigal).
The following year saw JC singing, with SJ, the caressing ‘Anbumikka maapillaikku’ (Engal Kuladeivam), again for MSV. And this Mandhara malar blossomed next, spreading its Malabar fragrance all over Madras.
* * * *
Now there remains only one person to be dwelt on—Lourdumary Rajeswari, and woe betide anyone who dares to think of this song, without first offering a mental salute to this remarkable songster!
Queried a naïve interviewer (Malarum Ninaivugal, Madras DD, 1990): ‘Madam, neenga medailae paadum pothu, dhideernu dance aada aarambikkireegale--’. Replied LRE, with a throaty chuckle: ‘Thambi, en paatilaye ‘thullavatho illamai’nu irukkum pothu, ennala thullama irukka mudiyuma’?!
And that sums up LRE and her songs. And while she sang so many songs of timeless appeal in the 60s, I find some of her songs in the first half of the 70s equally memorable. And K Balachandar, in awe of her wondrous range, harnessed her infinite skills to the fullest to bolster his complex characterizations. ‘Aarambam indre aagattum’ (Kaviyathalaivi), ‘Kaathodu thaan naan paaduven’(Velli
Vizha), ‘Maapillai ragasiyam sollava’(Arangetram), ‘Kalyanam Kacheri’(Sollathaan Ninaikkiren), ‘Adi ennadi ulagam’(Aval Oru Thodarkathai)--- all collaborations that have made history.
Take this SOTD as a paradigm of her artistry- see how whispery and demure she sounds as she begins with her soliloquy (vague memory of Jayabharathi enjoying a kuliyal in a kulam), and watch how as the song progresses to a joyous duet, LRE’s voice tumbles out of its coy chrysalis and metamorphoses into a high-spirited carnival of love.
The Concise Oxford Thesaurus gives multiple synonyms for the word ‘exuberance’ –exhilaration, joie de vivre, buoyancy, sparkle, liveliness, vivaciousness, ebullience, animation, zest--- In the annals of tfm, however, ‘exuberance’ will always have only a single synonym- LR Eswari.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.195)
on: Fri Aug 29 02:46:37 EDT 2003
Saravanan,
Tamil grammar enthusiasts used to say 'naan avanillai' is wrong Tamil! It should have been 'naan avanallan'! i.e., 'illai' is meant to go only with 'adhu' and not 'avan' or 'avaL'!!!
And I think in this song as well as in 'Sundari neeyum Sundaran nyaanum...' from 'Michael Madana Kama Rajan', the Malayalam lyrics are so carefully chosen that an average Tamil listener can make out the meaning almost fully!
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