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Original songs od Deva

Topic started by swarapriyan (@ 129.252.23.236) on Fri Oct 23 12:44:07 EDT 1998.
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Of late there had been enough panning on Deva for giving wonderful "remix / xerox" songs. But I feel that he has done a decent job in giving some original compositions too. eg.

(1)Porul thedum bhoomiyil (By chitra in Kalki)
(2)Metti Metti velli metti (By SJ in Pullai kuttikkaran)
(3)Konja Naal Poruthalaiva
(4)Un udhattoram sivappai

I wish TFM fans contribute to this thread without digressing to cast criticizms on him.

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• From: Ramki (@ cs101.cs.wmich.edu) on: Thu Nov 5 09:08:40 EST 1998
  
  cram come on 'do diwanae shahar mein aap gaana'is far from close to 'enakenne pirandhava'.
  
  Senguruvi senguruvi is from THirumurthy-MD is Deva
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-01-8.sprint.ca) on: Thu Nov 5 12:53:37 EST 1998
  
  seguruvi senguruvi is a derect lift for nice melody in malaylam . can't think of it now
  
  HEY THERE IS A REASON WHY DEVA COPIES SONGS FRM HINDI, MALAYALAM, WESTERN AND ALL OTHER. HE DOESNT WANT HIS LOYAL(!!!!) FANS TO SPEND OR SHOLD I SAY WASTE THEIR MONEY BUYING OUT LANGUAGES CD, SO HE RECYCLES THEM OR SOME TIMES JUST TAKES THEM RIGHT OUT AND PUT THEM IN A TAMIL MELODY. SHE WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS . . . (YEAH WHAT EVER !!!!)
  
  comments
  P.Lankathas
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-01-8.sprint.ca) on: Thu Nov 5 12:54:39 EST 1998
  
  seguruvi senguruvi is a derect lift for nice melody in malaylam . can't think of it now
  
  HEY THERE IS A REASON WHY DEVA COPIES SONGS FROM HINDI, MALAYALAM, WESTERN AND ALL OTHER. HE DOESNT WANT HIS LOYAL(!!!!) FANS TO SPEND OR SHOLD I SAY WASTE THEIR MONEY BUYING OTHER LANGUAGE CDS, SO HE RECYCLES THEM - TUNES - OR SOME TIMES JUST TAKES THEM RIGHT OUT AND PUT THEM IN A TAMIL MELODY. SHE WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS . . . (YEAH WHAT EVER !!!!)
  
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  P.Lankathas
  
  
• From: Anand (@ qt-ce.singnet.com.sg) on: Thu Nov 5 23:36:47 EST 1998
  
  Guys,
  
  What about DEVA becoming a full fledged Playback Singer for a CHANGE>...
  
  He has a Series of hits in his name...
  
  1.Kanangatthu meenu vangi...
  2.Kavala padadhey Sahodharaa...
  3.Vythilathaan Kozhi Onnu Koovudhu...
  4.Nee Than Nee than Onna Number...
  5.That Thom Thaka Thom Thit Thom..
  ....
  and the guest appearance to grace the song in "Gokulathu Kanna Kanna"...
  
  He has been SPOTTED by Sirpy, and was INVITED to sing Song Number 4 in this list above....
  
  He has a very "BIG FAN FO(O)LLowing" in Singapore
  ...We really look forward to his latest HITS......The Golden Voice of Deva....Yes...The GOlden Voice...
  
  
  I would like to know your comments on this ...
  I seriously feel He cud become a better Singer than an MD...But, when One is too good in more than one field, it is always difficult to say in which field he/she is BETTER>...!
  
  Bye,
  Anand
  
  
• From: RR (@ boo.ucar.edu) on: Fri Nov 6 03:27:24 EST 1998
  
  Anand, you could start a new topic..
  
  
• From: suresh (@ bellbird.qut.edu.au) on: Fri Nov 6 03:41:49 EST 1998
  
  Lankathas,
  
  Deva, the most eco-friendly MD in India? :-))
  
  
• From: P. Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-02-20.sprint.ca) on: Fri Nov 6 09:25:03 EST 1998
  
  Suresh,
  
  "Deva, the most eco-friendly MD in India? :-))"
  
  'I dont get it', care to explain
  
  and Anand
  
  "What about DEVA becoming a full fledged Playback Singer for a CHANGE>... "(NO HELL NO ! ! ! !)
  
  PLEASE NO, NOT DEVA, IF HE READS YOUR COMMENT THEN HE WILL START SINGING ALL THE DueT AND LOVE SONGS WHICH ARE GENERALLY GIVEN TO HH, UK, OR SPB. PLEASE DON'T MAKE HIM DO THAT TO TFM. I THINK HE HAS DONE ENOUGHT TO TFM. I WAS JUST HOPING THAT HE IS GOING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SONGS OR STOP(WHICH I PERSONALLY PREFER)SINGING.
  I THINKING WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH TROUBLE WITH UDIT NARAYANAM TRYING SINGING TAMIL SONGS AND ( . . . WELL YOU KNOW THAT REST . . . )
  
  Fans in Singapore for Deva ( OH NO ! ! ! PLESE DONT TELL ME . . . NO NO I REFUSE TO HEAR THIS STORY . . . and to think for all this time I thought that people in Singapore were straight)
  
  "......The Golden Voice of Deva....Yes...The GOlden Voice... " (NO ! ! ! ! NO NO .... I want my mummy. . . )
  
  GOD PLEASE HELP THE TFM. YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE NOW.
  
  
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  P.Lankathas
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Fri Nov 6 19:20:28 EST 1998
  
  Thozhar P.Lankathas avargalae,
  I wish you would read Swarapriyan's initial comments at the start of this thread so you can at least get close to what this thread is about. Poor Swarapriyan, he must be a chronic optimist to think we would all abide by his request and stick to the criteria he laid down. And could you please be ever so kind to NOT USE ALL CAPS AGAIN for an entire posting?
  
  
  
• From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com) on: Fri Nov 6 22:41:30 EST 1998
  
  The best composition of Deva IMO, is "oru
  penn puRa" song from Annamalai. Really amazing.
  Interludes are smooth and meaningful. KJJ has
  rendered that very well.
  
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ ncr1.ece.sc.edu) on: Sat Nov 7 00:11:26 EST 1998
  
  Thanx Udhaya
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-03-44.sprint.ca) on: Mon Nov 9 01:49:35 EST 1998
  
  Thozhar uthays avargalae,
  
  I DONT SEE YOU TALKING ABOUT SWARPRAIM REQUEST EITHER. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM.
  
  oh yes no caps right. next time
  
  any comments
  P.Lankathas
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.28.14) on: Mon Nov 9 12:23:16 EST 1998
  
  Dear Lankathas, My request which Udhaya was trying to mention is that "let us not criticize Deva" and that "we list his original songs" only to make a good collection. Hope your doubts are cleared.
  
  Regards
  Murali Sankar
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ 209.148.155.145) on: Mon Nov 9 20:33:48 EST 1998
  
  He doesn't have any GOOD original songs. Don't you people get it. Yes I like Deva's music too, but they are all copied. One way or another
  
  any comments
  P.Lankathas
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Nov 10 00:09:37 EST 1998
  
  I don't find anything wrong in people saying that this particular song is a copied one.
  One of us give a list of "original" songs of deva.I find a couple of them copied. I claim that it's not an original work of his.Then people start saying that this thread is meant for listing only original songs of Deva and NOT deva bashing.
  One can't stop from posting his claim if he finds that a particular number has been cut-and-pasted (the objective is to prove that it's not an original work of deva and NOT Deva bashing)!!!
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-01-42.sprint.ca) on: Tue Nov 10 02:51:03 EST 1998
  
  Thank you shankar
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Nov 10 10:48:15 EST 1998
  
  please read >>One can't stop from posting his claim<< as >>One can't be stopped from posting his claim...<<
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Nov 10 14:29:05 EST 1998
  
  Lankathas: Saying a particular song is copied and not original is very much within the purview of this thread. That doesn't cover dEvA bashing though. Say that song is copid fine, but you don't have to then why he did it, or call on God to help you. That is where you start dEvA bashing.
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-89-17.sprint.ca) on: Wed Nov 11 00:55:36 EST 1998
  
  Aiyoo! Didn't you people know?!! All songs of the same raga sound similar!! (Read it with humour)
  
  By the way
  
  In the VijiaKanth starrer"En aasai Maachan" there was this song that goes like this" adi yilla thethi vachu aavaniyil sethi" something which is sung by Chitra. It was a hit song. I believe that that song was an original of Devas. Truly, some songs romba nalla senjurikiraar.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 141.218.96.67) on: Wed Nov 11 09:46:43 EST 1998
  
  Aruvi no that wasnt original-its copy of 'aasaiyile pathi katti nathu onnu nattu vachen naan poovayi'(from enga ooru kaavarkkaran)
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-06-39.sprint.ca) on: Wed Nov 11 19:55:18 EST 1998
  
  Ramki
  
  you just said what I would have said. Thanks man.
  
  P.Lankathas
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ cs101.cs.wmich.edu) on: Thu Nov 19 14:47:29 EST 1998
  
  Latest issue of Ananda vikatan Praises Deva for the hardwork he has shown in the film 'Unnudan'
  
  
• From: guru (@ 128.248.181.146) on: Thu Nov 19 18:53:14 EST 1998
  
  hi ramki,
  
  could u go into the site without problems?
  
  i'm still unable to get into that site.
  has the URL changed?
  
  Guru
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 141.218.96.74) on: Thu Nov 19 19:31:58 EST 1998
  
  Guru i had problems yesterday but from today morning its working fine and there is no change in the URL(but the server is too slow)
  
  
• From: guru (@ 128.248.181.146) on: Fri Nov 20 02:59:48 EST 1998
  
  thanks Ramki
  
  
• From: Raju (@ pccrnt069.lgu.ac.uk) on: Tue Nov 24 05:04:31 EST 1998
  
  is "aattu mettu thoppukkulle..." a copy?
  Like IR, Deva has a rustic voice (meesa kara
  nanba) and now that nagoor hamid has died I don't
  see why he can't sing rustic songs.
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Fri Apr 23 13:59:19 EDT 1999
  
  Some of the melodies given by deva are being grossly overlooked under the pretext of suspecion of the originality of the tune( I am not debating this!). There are some real efficacious melodies given by him like the following
  1. pORALE pORALE - unnai thEdi
  2. nALai kAlai - unnai thEdi
  3. chinna chinna kuyilE - kannethirE thOndrinAL
  4. kaNavE kaliyAthE - kannethirE thOndrinAL
  5. kObama enmEl kObama - unnudan
  
  Surprisingly most of these melodies have been rendered by hariharan (along with others) , who often loses his sruti at high pitches(IMO). In the song 'naalai kaalai nERil varuvALa' , which is a good melody , his conspicuous struggle at high pitch is noticeable as he screams 'thaatchaayani.....'. He almost sounds like deva in couple of places! This is because (i think) , he is trying to present a higher note rendition with some tweaking as he does in low pitched brigaas and fails in his endeavour. He should stick to singing it flat with no variation there by not spoiling the song. The song otherwise is a nice one with flute and guitar interludes. 'pORALE pORALE' is another good melody where hariharan has rendered it without trying to perform any vocal acrobatics. The interluding percussion beat (bongos ?) having a resounding effect is amazing and is a novel technique used in folk songs. "Chinna chinna kuyilE" is another excellent melody with anu's humming in the backround and one can see the difference again here where hariharan has controlled his voice by not going overboard and spoiling the song. The second interlude with mridhangam percussions has shobana's rendering which starts like 'enniyathun..' with excellent gamaka presentation where she ends as 'kaRpanaiyE.....'. 'kaNavE kalaiyAthE' is another fabulous melody based on desh raga. Unnikrishnan is a good choice for this song as he renders the higher note lines 'chinna thiruvAi malarvAyA..' fluently. He doesn't struggle like hariharan at high pitch. The ghatam is adroitly used in this song and the interluding konnakkol by chita 'thAm thakita thOm thaka thimi' is amazing .
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ hope.cs.umass.edu) on: Fri Apr 23 18:07:51 EDT 1999
  
  Revive.
  
  
• From: Vimal (@ 129.219.38.215) on: Fri Apr 23 18:56:55 EDT 1999
  
  Sorry,
  Wrong thread.
  
  

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