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Song Interludes

Topic started by vj (@ ctn.library.ucsb.edu) on Thu Jan 7 22:45:53 EST 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I know, I know, there are people here in TFM who use their analytical knives to rip apart songs ... and lyrics... and interludes...and BGMs.
Now, I hope to make these same 'knowledgeable' folks discuss interludes in songs. Some songs I believe have interludes that dont reflect the 'mood' (like Eeramana Rojave...)and in some others the interludes takes the songs to great heights (Poove, Sempoove or veerapandi Kottayile)... also some MDs are very concerned about Interludes(ARR!) whether for some it is a matter of filling time till the next stanza.
I hope the interludes of various songs and their fluidity and their relevance to the picturisation on screen can be discussed here.

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Responses:

• From: Srikanth (@ 1cust251.tnt11.chi5.da.uu.net) on: Thu Jan 7 23:15:36 EST 1999
  
  Interludes: Mostly the Film Director plays major part in the interludes, for example - Iravu nilavu in Anjali by IR, Raja places a slow guitar bit inbetween fast scored interludes, which when I heard for the first time I felt it did not go with the song, later when watching the movie I was amazed by the placement of the bit, Mani Ratham had his vision on this song and Raja just completed it perfectly.
  Srikanth
  
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Fri Jan 8 05:51:18 EST 1999
  
  Another song which has excellent interludes ,which some said, didn't go well with the song ,is "azhagiya kaNNE uRavugaL neeyE" from udhirippookkaL.
  
  The interludes show the emotions running in the back of Aswini's mind and the mood of her children (playing around her).
  
  In fact the first stanza starts with her singing about her children (sangam pAdAdhadhu thamizhum alla........nAn kaNdEn veLLi nilA)
  
  the second one about her family ,again(sorgam eppOdhum nam kayyilE..........en jeevan mAngalyam dhAn)
  
  and the third one about her worries (manjaL enrenrum...........en nenjam alayAdudhu).U can see meloncholy creeping in as the song progresses and the interludes introduce them seamlessly, u never feel the change of mood.
  
  As srikanth said, Directors play a major role in the interludes. If u see all mahendran movies ,just by listening to the interludes ,one can make out what's happening in the scene.
  
  More later...
  
  
• From: Sankaran (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Fri Jan 8 07:53:59 EST 1999
  
  Some of the amazing interludes:
  1. Poomaalai vaangi vandhaan - 2nd,
  2. Vetti veru vaasam - 2nd
  3. Adho mega oorvalam - both,
  3. Oru vellai mazhai - both,
  4. Ninaivo oru paravai - both(especially the second which reminds one of the flute bit in the Titanic song My heart will go on...)
  5. Paattu thalaivan(very vibrant and brilliant inteludes here, thulli guthikkum kudhirayaippola)
  6. Vaanilae thenilaa aadhuthey paduthey ...(even the prelude is amazing in this song)
  7. Kaadhal kavidhaigal padithidum neram.....( listen to this song on a rainy afternoon when you are free... the effect would be out of the world)
  8. Kaalai thendral, Paadi varum.. paadi varum (Raja's violins at the very best)
  ... and the interludes fall into an excusive club of western classical style
  ....3 songs from Nenjathaikkillaadhey(too popular to be listed here)
  ....Ennullay ennulley..
  ....One song from Siraichaalai(don't remember the lyrics, though)
  ....Poottukkal pottalum....(from the movie Kshathriyan).
  
  I hope I have succeeded in bringing some old memories in DFers with this list. Any response would be great!!
  
  - Sankaran
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Jan 8 09:07:26 EST 1999
  
  u bet sankaran
  i llisten to old mottai hits all the time and its the interludes that blow my mind all the time.
  check out:
  
  paruvame..
  adi aaththaadi ila manasonnu
  antha nilaavaththaan naan kaiyile pudichchen
  senthoorappoove (the all-time interlude)
  koil mani osai thannai
  pani vizhum iravu
  and
  ennulle ennulle (simply out of the world)
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Jan 8 09:08:35 EST 1999
  
  guys
  also check out geetanjali numbers. the interludes are simply toooooo good.
  
  
• From: rs (@ epimetheus.uk.ibm.com) on: Fri Jan 8 09:34:33 EST 1999
  
  I think all the songs in 'Idhaya kovil' has excellent interlues.
  esp. yaar veettu roha poo poothathu
  nan paadum mouna raagam
  
  ayyO! kettuttte irukkalam pola irukkum!!
  
  
• From: rs (@ prometheus.uk.ibm.com) on: Fri Jan 8 09:35:42 EST 1999
  
  sorry typo
  roja=>roja!!
  
  
• From: Sangeetha (@ bluebird.state.mo.us) on: Tue Jan 19 16:08:42 EST 1999
  
  No one could forget about the Master piece interludes in "Ilaiya Nila Pozhigirathe".
  
  Whole song is dominated by guitar in Lead and Rythm. 80% of the 1st Interlude by Lead Guitar and 20% by flute. May be IR added flute in that piece for glorifying the beauty of the song.
  
  Second Interlude is full of Leads and Chords in Guitar. I think the Guitarist should take the notes along with him one day before recording and did some home work for this piece.
  
  And a beautiful concluding Guitar Piece also was added for melody.
  
  
  
• From: Guru (@ nscp129e.lac.uic.edu) on: Tue Jan 19 17:06:21 EST 1999
  
  hi guys,
  
  listen to "Anjali Anjali..." from "Anjali". The interlude(s), especially the 2nd one is just Out of this Universe.
  
  The flow of the song is maintained well in those interludes.
  
  Guru
  
  
• From: bull (@ ramses.erlm.siemens.de) on: Tue Jan 19 23:59:22 EST 1999
  
  hmmmm... I can't see "poovE sempoovE un vaasam varum" in anyone's list!
  
  And going back to oldies ... "kaalanggaLil avaL vasantham" has got magical evergreen prelude and interludes!
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Jan 20 12:35:22 EST 1999
  
  Sangeetha,
  >>I think the Guitarist should take the notes along with him one day before recording and
  did some home work for this piece. <<
  
  Well, I think that wouldn't have happened if what i heard from a friend of mine is true.Since (acc to him),the maestro himself played the guitar for that song, he wudn't have practised at all!!!
  
  Another song for which Raja himself played the guitar is en iniya pon nilAvE.This is for sure.
  
  
• From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com) on: Wed Jan 20 23:54:46 EST 1999
  
  IR always added emotion in the interludes very well. We can imagine the scenes in the movie just by listening to the interludes. Few examples:
  
  1) nAn oru sindhu from sindhu bhairavi: The first
  interlude reflects the Athangam of sindhu very well.
  
  2) pAdu nilAvE from udhaya geetham. Both interludes express the sorrow and happy mood
  
  3) rAga deepam from payanagla mduivadhillai.
  Change of tempo and additional orchestration nicely changes from sorrow to happy mood. Hats off to SPB also to show it in the voice.
  
  
  Another point i noticed is that apart from the interludes even the tunes reflect the native language. Some how i could make out "siraichalai" songs as mallu even before i came to know about that. Similarly for kangalin vArthigal songs.
  
  I have never enjoyed interludes like this, before IR came into field.
  
  Hail IR!
  
  
• From: muthax (@ 12.62.31.62) on: Mon Jan 25 17:10:32 EST 1999
  
  Talking(or writing??) about oldies one of the best prelude/interlude i have heard is from the song "Maazhai pozhuthin mayakathilae naan kanavu kanden thozhi" from the movie Bagyalakshmi.
  No doubt IR is a great MD. Meanwhile lets also discuss some of the oldies.
  No offense meant!!
  
  
• From: muthax (@ 12.62.31.62) on: Mon Jan 25 17:12:30 EST 1999
  
  Forgot to include in the previous posting
  Hail IR!!
  :)))
  
  
• From: rs (@ sungold3.uk.ibm.com) on: Tue Jan 26 06:08:49 EST 1999
  
  muthaax: maalai pozhuthin mayakkathile. a class of its own, athula veena pottiruppar MD paarunga. ayyo pullarichidum
  
  
• From: muthax (@ 12.62.31.62) on: Tue Jan 26 14:30:19 EST 1999
  
  aiyo rs, yenn atha gnyabaga paduthureenga.
  enoda kathila athu reengaram agikittae irukku.
  
  andha paatu paadi muduchathum oru chinna veenai piece irukkumae athu yengayo thookittu poidumnga.
  andha paata ketkirappao manasukula irundhu oru inam puriatha sogam apadiye ezhundhu varumae......
  i guess the MD is MSV-VKR. am i correct?
  
  
• From: muthax (@ 12.62.31.62) on: Tue Jan 26 14:39:50 EST 1999
  
  A Rich orchestration in the song "Avalukkena azhagia mugam" from the movie 'Client/Server'Sundaram :))) also brings the tempo in the song. Esply the prelude is good. MD MSV.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.152) on: Fri Jan 29 08:25:08 EST 1999
  
  What about the interlude in the last stanza of `Vizhiyile Malarndhadhu' in Bhuvana oru ?. IR & his capability in handling a band of Violinists is in full cry there like a magnificient cover drive by Sunil Gavaskar.
  
  And what about another Violin concerto in the 2nd interlude of `Madai Thiranthu' in Nizhalgal. I believe IR is even shown on the movie in that song.
  
  Well, once start talking about IR's interludes, it's very difficult to stop. Let me give chance to others.
  
  
• From: M.S (@ 1cust15.tnt2.sdg1.da.uu.net) on: Mon Feb 1 02:47:00 EST 1999
  
  Some of the best interludes of IR that I can remember,
  Vizhil Kadai Ezhudum Neramidu - Unnal Mudiyum Thambi(esp the Piano in the second Stanza)
  Kasturi Maane Kalyana thena - Pudumai Penn, again in the second stanza the keyboard and the violin will play one by one for few seconds.
  Naadam Ezhundadadi - Gopura Vasalila
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ gatekeeper.ohioedison.com) on: Mon Feb 1 18:06:22 EST 1999
  
  Recent ones.
  
  nandhavanakkuyilE.. from PVK. Excellent interludes. Especially the First interlude is so glorious. Also iLaiya nilave has a neat interlude. IR always shines when he uses the natural instruments in the interludes.
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.24.129) on: Wed Feb 3 05:02:47 EST 1999
  
  
  Of late the style of music that Raja is adapting is probably never attempted by anybody in the past( inclusive of him) and will definitely be not taken by any MD in the future. Based on the complexity of the interludes I can divide IR into various time domains:
  
  (1)Starting phase
  In this period he was concentrating more on the tune (eg Kuyilae kavikkuyilae though it has a wonderful prelude). When listening to Kadhal Oviyum, I feel the naivette in the interludes. but I do appreciate that there were many songs like "Uravugal thodarkathai" which had goo interludes. The point I want to present is that the interludes were "good", but not complicated.
  
  (2)WC - phase:
  
  Call it Manirathnam - Mahendran era when his interludes just went out of the world. They were complicated (eg the second interlude of nilave vaa), but were still playable. I mean by this that after a very sincere effort, a reasonbaly good player of the Keyboard may understand the notes. (I exempt NBW and HTNI from these discussions).
  
  (3)Post - symphony phase:
  
  That is it. It gives a music listener little room to understan but a lot to appreciate. Yes, the culmination was "Guru". the recent songs like "Mayee" have extrememly good Bass guitar work. I do not know how amny like "Oh baby Baby". But personally, I feel that IR would have thought a bit more than his usual time to compose this song. This is because, the chord progression in that song is unbelievabaly unconventional. I do not know how to say it, but it is the song which I feel is the most creative in that film. As you may understand Ennai thalatta would have taken just minutes to take shape from him.
  
  The work in Poonthottam went unnoticed though it the songs were really worhth the money. the "Iniya Malrgal" is a feast and the once again the bass work in all the songs are unusually complex.
  
  Hope to receive comments.
  
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.24.129) on: Wed Feb 3 05:05:16 EST 1999
  
  typo:
  
  the "Iniya Malrgal" is a feast and the once
  
  should read as
  
  "Iniya Malrgal" is a feast and once
  
  

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