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Ilaiyaraja and the bass guitar!

Topic started by Srivatsan (@ 219.65.96.172) on Thu Dec 4 06:48:17 EST 2003.
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Ilaiyaraja and the bass guitar!

Dear All, Im a newbie to this wonderful site. Ive just been going through the old IR threads, especially 'Ilaiyaraja and the guitar' and the like. I was fascniated by the way ppl had discussed these topics (Mux, Kanchana and Kitcha ... hats Off!) I am absolutely bowled out by IRs use of the bass guitar in many many songs, like Ninnukori, POOgatru PudhirAnathu and so on. Im planning to learn the acoustic guitar and I thought Ilaiyaraja's love for the bass guitar shopuld be discussed more in detail. Please post ur comments!

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Responses:

• From: Raja (@ 128.107.253.41) on: Thu Dec 4 07:39:09 EST 2003
  
  Srivatsan,
  
  Few songs which impressed me in IR's usage of Bass Guitar.
  
  1. "Raasaave unnai.." from Aranmanai kili
  2. "vizhiyilae mani.." from Nooravathu Naal
  3. "Devan thantha veenai.." from Unnai naan sandhithaen
  
  
• From: . (@ 161.114.64.74) on: Thu Dec 4 07:47:46 EST 2003
  
  Devan Tiruchabai Malargale from Avar Enakke Sontham
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Thu Dec 4 08:14:55 EST 2003
  
  my fav bass guitar parts
  enna saththam intha neram
  poongatru puthithanathu
  Oru kili uruguthu
  Poonthalir aada ponmalar sooda
  Modhal Mariyadhai,Eera Vizhi kaaviyangal,Agni Natchathiram songs
  
  Most of the Ordinary listeners never note the bass parts.I was one among them before visitng newtfmpage.Its tough to concentrate on the bass parts when the tune and the primary instruments rule the song.Old timer Srinath used to say Bass needs to be felt than heard.:-)
  
  Increase the bass in your audio system to get more bass effect.:-)
  
  
• From: Rags (@ 198.204.133.208) on: Thu Dec 4 08:15:29 EST 2003
  
  Roja Poonthotam in Kannukkul Nilavu
  
  
• From: K (@ 192.154.91.225) on: Thu Dec 4 09:07:41 EST 2003
  
  The latest "Elanagthu Veesudhe" in Pithamagan has some mind blowing bass guitar use in it.
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.96.191) on: Thu Dec 4 14:20:06 EST 2003
  
  peeps, u are rite! it is a bit diffucult to listen to the bass parts when the melody in the songs are so good ... i especially love the bass part in Ninnukori in the background during the lines "vaNNa paavai moganam, vAAdi pona kAAranam ..." after the 2nd interlude! i just wait for this piece :) ...
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.96.191) on: Thu Dec 4 14:22:47 EST 2003
  
  and "ilaya nila pozhigiradhu" also has excellent bass guitar pieces ... onli they are drowned in IR's best-of-guitar pieces in this song!!
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.96.191) on: Thu Dec 4 14:25:17 EST 2003
  
  the song "valai osai" (satya *ing kamal) has a catchy bass piece thruout the song! it sounds more like the beat to the song!!!
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.96.191) on: Thu Dec 4 14:26:36 EST 2003
  
  and the guitar piece in "En iniya poN nilavE.." is soooo goood! omigod, i just luv this bit!
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 199.180.6.44) on: Thu Dec 4 14:26:47 EST 2003
  
  From the following link:
  http://www.raajangahm.com/guitarprasanna/favo_songs.html
  
  The song "Vaan Meethile" from the film "Raagangal Maaruvathillai(1983)".
  
  
  
• From: Normal Man (@ 199.207.253.96) on: Thu Dec 4 18:02:40 EST 2003
  
  The starting piece in 'Netru Indha neeram' from Tik Tik Tik is mind blowing. It starts with a peppy pace and slows & allows the violins to take over.
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.83.175) on: Fri Dec 5 02:32:51 EST 2003
  
  "Mella mella ennaithottu" (Vaazhkai).... WOW...!!!
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.97.66) on: Fri Dec 5 12:43:08 EST 2003
  
  I was a bit busy today!
  
  Kupps: I will listen to that song tomm and tell ya all about it :)
  
  Normal man:Yeah, the "tik tik tik' pice is very good. The place where the violins take over has the classic IR stamp on it!
  
  
• From: CMU (@ 128.2.77.35) on: Fri Dec 5 13:24:08 EST 2003
  
  Its just got me...what a genius Illayaraja was...may be I wasn't mature enough to appreciate his genius. Now when I listen to his works, I feel most of today's music directors are amatuers - playing with their kits.
  
  
• From: Arun (@ 129.110.97.116) on: Fri Dec 5 14:41:54 EST 2003
  
  Guys,
  am a bassist here in dallas and i play for a rock band here.But i grew up listening to raaja's songs back at home.
  The best composition i think is
  "pothi vecha malligai mottu"
  it is a folk song with folk percussion in it n all...but mann what an arpeegio raaja has composed.excellent.
  Am thinking of picking it up,
  
  
• From: kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.207) on: Fri Dec 5 15:49:41 EST 2003
  
  Arun
  there are many such songs
  one nice song that still hip even today is Patenge song from poovizhivasilile
  some great drumming,brass and very punky motownish :) etc. I think you can listen to sample given in that above link at http://www.raajangahm.com/guitarprasanna/favo_songs.html
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.97.80) on: Sun Dec 7 06:49:01 EST 2003
  
  yeah the poovizhi vaasaile song is very very good - i just catched the film on TV!
  
  what about 'Vaan engum thanga viNmeengal' from Moonram Pirai? The start itself if enough! I feel that this song hasnt been gibven due credit - thanks to the amzing number "Poongatru' :))
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.97.80) on: Sun Dec 7 06:50:07 EST 2003
  
  'pottu vecha malliga mottu' - wow, does that song have bass piece in it?? i dont remember hearing it all!!!
  
  
• From: jagan (@ 61.11.73.84) on: Mon Dec 8 23:17:54 EST 2003
  
  Just listen to
  
  Thanga Changili.. Thooral Ninnupochu
  Ponvaanam Panner.. Indru nee nalai naan
  
  you will love the bass notes
  
  
• From: srivatsan (@ 219.65.99.74) on: Tue Dec 9 12:58:21 EST 2003
  
  Arun:
  
  just out of curiosity - how differnt is learning a bass guitar compared to an acoustic one? and do u learn on a 'special' bass guitar or play an electric guitar??
  
  
• From: mohan (@ 61.1.202.12) on: Tue Dec 9 13:46:44 EST 2003
  
  hey guys..the thread "raaja and bass guitar" is a very big topic to discuss and very interesting..
  raaja is a master in guitars...he has composed many stunning bass notes.. listen to KATHAL OVIYAM song from alaigal oyvathillai..especially in two bgms..simply great..
  
  
• From: Srivatsan (@ 61.1.201.249) on: Sat Dec 13 02:05:38 EST 2003
  
  hello ppl:
  
  i ma sure u wud've listened to the bass guitar piece that comes some 3 mins. into the song "Poove Sempoove ..." from solla thudikudhu manasu ... and the way IR has continued this pice is absolutely fantsatic
  
  and also "Gangai karai Mannanadi" from Varusam 16 has a beautiful guitar backdrop - sounds more like the beat to the song!
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Sat Dec 13 05:45:57 EST 2003
  
  Iam sure many of you would have noted the
  bass in these S.Janaki songs -
  "Kannan vandhu paadugiraan kaalamellaam" ,
  "Paadavaa un paadalai",
  "Pala machham konda machaan".
  Aren't they quite appealing?
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Sat Dec 13 05:49:00 EST 2003
  
  Iam sure many of you would have noted the
  bass in these S.Janaki songs -
  "Kannan vandhu paadugiraan kaalamellaam" ,
  "Paadavaa un paadalai",
  "Pala machham konda machaan".
  Aren't they quite appealing?
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Sat Dec 13 05:52:09 EST 2003
  
  Iam sure many of you would have noted the
  bass in these S.Janaki songs -
  "Kannan vandhu paadugiraan kaalamellaam" ,
  "Paadavaa un paadalai",
  "Pala machham konda machaan".
  Aren't they quite appealing?
  
  
• From: Srivatsan (@ 61.1.201.243) on: Sat Dec 13 13:47:55 EST 2003
  
  Mythila: I cant quite recollect these songs :( ... can u inform what films these songs are from?
  
  and if i can say it without ANY kind of offence meant, you are one of the few few girls who seem to like the bass guitar! :) i repeat, no offence meant at all ... i am sure u love IR songs as any fan would!
  
  
• From: gnkv (@ 192.87.1.200) on: Sat Dec 13 14:19:16 EST 2003
  
  the song ilamanathu from the film selvi has an amazing bass guitar..infact the whole song is dominated by the bass part.
  
  
• From: Srivatsan (@ 61.1.201.180) on: Sun Dec 14 12:53:59 EST 2003
  
  "Oru Pattampoochi" in Kadhalukku Mariyadhai has a very very good bass guitar part in it! I think this went unnoticed :(
  
  
• From: Josaph irudayaraj (@ 212.138.47.11) on: Tue Dec 16 01:34:20 EST 2003
  
  OOOH Guys what a nice topic!
  
  Long time back i also just plyed bass guitar, and realy enjoyed with IR's song.
  
  "Kodiyele Malliha".. kadalorakavidaihal
  "Thenmadurai vaihai"... Darmathin Thalaivan
  "Hey Raja ondranom Indru"... Jallikattu
  "Sangeetha Megam".... Film ?????
  "Thendral Vandu theendum"...... Avadharam
  
  "Kadal Oviyam".... Alaihal Oaivadillai, this song was one of the fine work of IR.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Sripathy Ramesh (@ 203.193.155.98) on: Tue Dec 16 09:50:48 EST 2003
  
  What about the following?
  
  ennakku piditha paadal - julie ganapathy
  oru kiliyin thanimayile
  
  I somehow feel, in many songs he composes some melodic pieces in bass which I feel is somewhat odd.
  
  
  
• From: Sripathy Ramesh (@ 203.193.155.98) on: Tue Dec 16 10:01:20 EST 2003
  
  What about the following?
  
  ennakku piditha paadal - julie ganapathy
  oru kiliyin thanimayile
  
  I somehow feel, in many songs he composes some melodic pieces in bass which I feel is somewhat odd.
  
  
  

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