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enna enna uvamaigaLO:-)

Topic started by kozhuppu (@ 210.214.5.6) on Thu Mar 21 04:25:38 EST 2002.
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TFM kavignarkaLukkuththAn ethanai rasanai! kuRippAga peNgaLai varNippadhil:-))nAyagi matRum avaLadhu avayavangaL patRiya uvamaigaL mattum indha thread'il...

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• From: kozhuppu (@ 210.214.5.6) on: Thu Mar 21 04:31:13 EST 2002
  
  To start with, how about these two:
  
  `nAn kAlai nEraththAmarai' - Agni natchathiram (song -oru poongAvanam by vAli)
  &
  `rAthiriyil poothirukkum thAmarai dhAn peNNO' -Thangamagan (song- rathiriyil.., probably by VM going by the word `sElai chOlaiyE':-))
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Thu Mar 21 06:54:47 EST 2002
  
  kozhuppu,
  can u pls translate the following words for me:
  
  1) avayavangaL
  2) uvamaigaL
  
  Thank you.
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Thu Mar 21 13:09:41 EST 2002
  
  avayam = part (body part)
  uvamai = simile
  
  (the kaL at the end just means parts and simile-s?)
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu Mar 21 15:44:02 EST 2002
  
  uvamai is "analogy" to be precise but in poetry "similie" is appropriate...
  
  remember the song in "tik tik tik"... "netru indha neram" it has a line "padukayil paambu neliyuthu"..
  
  konjam over thaan antha pattu..
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Thu Mar 21 16:13:20 EST 2002
  
  Bharat,
  We can keep male body parts out of this. As Ellen says in Seinfeld, the male body is like a jeep, purely functional and not to be admired. The female body OTOH is a work of art! :)
  
  kozhuppu,
  I think the ultimate song in this category would be azhage azhage devathai from Rajaparvai. In it the poet describes her eyes, ears, neck, fingers.. almost every body part. I dont remember the exact lyrics and who wrote the song, but if anyone remembers, please do write it out. Great song!
  
  
• From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Thu Mar 21 17:21:04 EST 2002
  
  Guys, there is a song in the movie Devaragam, which( I forgot the starting of the song) describes each and every part of sridevi and in that order after the stomach the words go like..."Aalilai vadivam un adi vayiroo...."man it was too much and to sum it all the lyricist ends it saying that she is Sri Mahalakshmi..
  :-))))))
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu Mar 21 17:56:33 EST 2002
  
  tigger,
  
  since u quoted from my fav. serial i agree with you :-)
  
  
  
• From: Mahes (@ 130.102.5.61) on: Thu Mar 21 18:41:31 EST 2002
  
  hi guys, i guess another song in this category is 'anbe anbe kollathe' from the movie jeans. Vairamuthu describes Iswarya Rai on his own style, hmmmm nice song....
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Thu Mar 21 18:54:10 EST 2002
  
  Bharath and hihi,
  thanks for the translation.
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 65.186.21.53) on: Thu Mar 21 22:28:15 EST 2002
  
  BTW azhage azhage devathai would be first runner up.
  
  Now that I think of it the absolute greatest in this category would be "maduraiyil parantha meenkodiyai un kangalil kandaynay".
  
  What a concept! Vali has compared each district/city in TN to each part of a woman. An absolutely fabulous song, I had to hold back my tears when I heard it for the 1st time.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on: Fri Mar 22 01:26:56 EST 2002
  
  In this Category Vaali Tops the Chart..
  
  1. chandrodayam Oru pennanadho
  
  2. Amman Kovil therazhagu aayirathil or azhagu-Sondham 16
  
  3. yeh Azhagiya theeye
  
  4. Maan kanden Maan kanden
  
  
  
• From: Cheenu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Fri Mar 22 03:06:45 EST 2002
  
  
  As I remember "azhage azhagu" from raja paarvai was penned by none other than the great Kannadasan.
  
  
  
  
• From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on: Fri Mar 22 03:40:19 EST 2002
  
  I missed the Great Song
  Pennalla Pennalla OOdhappoo
  
  Wow What an imagination of Vaali
  
  
  
• From: vgs (@ 157.161.133.194) on: Fri Mar 22 04:27:33 EST 2002
  
  "Entha Pennilum illaatha Ondru" from Captain Magal.
  
  Well, I am not saying anything more :-)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri Mar 22 11:09:59 EST 2002
  
  Reading the kind of lyrics and song titles mentioned in this thread reminds me of a quote (by Voltaire):
  
  "Anything that is too stupid to be spoken is sung."
  
  
  
• From: GOD (@ 216.65.106.130) on: Fri Mar 22 12:38:39 EST 2002
  
  WhyNot
  
  If you not comfortable with poems, just dont post anything in this thread. These lyrics and songs are works of art. I think the people who have posted them here consider them so. If it is beyond your comprehension, don't discount them and prove your ignorance and insecurity.
  
  By the way try to learn some tamil and dont compare some 18th century idiot's statements to the beauty of these songs/lyrics
  
  I think the others who posted songs here would completely agree with me on this one
  
  
• From: GOD (@ 216.65.106.130) on: Fri Mar 22 12:41:57 EST 2002
  
  VM is great in his uvamaigal
  
  pennae unadhu mellidai paarththaen adadaa biramman kanjanadi
  satrae nimirndhaen thalai sutrip poanaen adadaa avanae vallaladi
  minnalaip pidiththu thoorigai samaiththu ravivarman edhuthiya vadhanamadi
  nooradip padukkai aaradiyaakki sirpigal sedhukkiya uruvamadi
  idhuvarai mannil pirandha pennil needhaan needhaan azhagiyadi
  iththanai azhagum moththam saerndhu ennai vadhaippadhu kodumaiyadi
  
  
• From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Fri Mar 22 12:57:39 EST 2002
  
  "padaithaane bramma dhevan pathinaaru vayathu kOlam.."its a good one, could some body tell me which film it is...
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Fri Mar 22 13:16:40 EST 2002
  
  i want to know one thing.. (and tigger imagine seinfeld saying this)
  
  what is it with these females? why do they think any reference to sex or the anatomy is stupid? Whats so wrong about it. Its there and its there always and so the lyricists talk about it! Its considered to be the single-most prevalant thought among all living beings with intelligence.
  
  i have sometimes heard from people that even "bathroom" exists so why not talk about it. my answer to those people wud be.."well they are not the same" and "if you think its the same either stop pretending or go see a doctor"
  
  
  
• From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Fri Mar 22 13:25:31 EST 2002
  
  Its a general attitude to claim themselves less perverted(Eventhough I don't think its really a perversion)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri Mar 22 13:57:19 EST 2002
  
  Guys and God,
  
  don't jump to conclusions.
  
  You mus have misread my quote.
  
  Now I agree all tis sounds nice, poetic and fine if it belongs to a song. But imagine saying this to someone...like for instance talking to a woman about the thing which all women don't have. Doesnt tat sound spastic to u? It does to me. It's ok to tell a woman she has a great ass, but if u tell her it looks like the puthu kottai district of TN, she'll probably laugh at u and ask u if u were out of ur mind. I know I wud. Tat's wat I mean by anything tat's too dumb to be spoken being sung.
  
  "what is it with these females? why do they think any reference to sex or the anatomy is stupid?"
  :-))) Bharath either something's wrong wit the females u mix wit or something's wrong wit u, which makes them feel uncomfortable when u talk to them about their anatomy.
  
  God, as a matter of fact I loved tat Anbe Anbe song and when I heard tat feminists were bashing tat song for its portrayal of the subject as a sex object, I dismissed it as stupid rhetoric (on the part of the feminists) to the great anguish of many feminist female friends (really!).
  
  btw, I dont think Voltaire is an idiot.
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Fri Mar 22 15:03:09 EST 2002
  
  Good lord WhyNot! I was lazy and did not explain it properly, and you jump to conclusions. I should have said Vali describes each feature of a women with the speciality of each district/city of TN. And what irony! You start your posting with "don't jump to conclusions"
  
  Here's the song, and a translation:
  
  maduraiyil parantha meenkodiyai - > un kangalil kandeney
  the Pandya flag that flew in Madurai (with the fish emblem) -> your eyes
  
  poril puthumaigal purintha cheran villai -> un puruvathil kandeney
  the cherans bow that performed feats of valor in battle -> your eye-brows
  
  thanjaiyil parantha puli kodiyai -> un penmaiyil kandeney
  the Chola flag that flew over Tanjore (tiger emblem) -> your feminity
  
  ivai moondrum sernthu thondrum unnai tamizhagam endreney
  you who are composed of these three - I'll call you tamizhagam
  
  kanchi thalaivan koyil silai thaan -> kanmaniyey un pon udalo
  the statue in kanchi -> your golden body
  
  kudanthaiyil paayum kaviri alai thaan -> kathaliyey un poonkuzhalo
  waves of the river kaveri that leap in kumbakonam (??) -> your flower-laden hair
  
  selathil vizhaiyum maangani suvai thaan -> ??? un sevvithazho
  the sweet mango of Salem -> your rosy lips
  
  thoothukudiyin muthu ???-> ??? un punnagaiyo
  the pearls of tuticorn -> your laughter
  
  podigai malaiyil purappadum thendral -> ilaiyavaley un nadai azhago
  the breeze that starts from the podigai hills -> your walk
  
  kumariyil kaanum kathiravan udayam -> kulamagaley un vadivazhago
  the sunrise at kanyakumari -> your shape (?)
  
  Now isn't that a beautiful song?!!
  
  
• From: vgs (@ 157.161.133.194) on: Fri Mar 22 15:06:55 EST 2002
  
  >> ...like for instance talking to a woman about the thing which all women don't have.
  
  "Entha Pennilum illaatha Ondru" is a song in which the hero tells that heroine that there is something special about her which he does not see in other women. It is not to be miscontrued (as you have, in this case) that she has something in her anatomy that other women don't have. You have a serious comprehension problem if you can't get this into your dull head. You dont know what "avayangal" is, you don't know what an "uvamai" is and you want to comment about a thamizh lyric...
  
  
  Yes, there are references to the woman's anatomy in this song. But the song also goes on to discuss her mannerisms which greatly impress the guy (like smiling at the end of each sentence, Biting her lips when she says something she did'nt mean to etc ). Have you ever heard this song completely ?
  
  This song is a "think-aloud" on the part of a guy who wonders what is it that is so special about the girl that he loves. Is it her anatomy ? her cute mannerisms ?
  
  If you still want to look at it in your perverted way, then go ahead. Have a nice day.
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Fri Mar 22 15:08:17 EST 2002
  
  Bharat, modifying a famous saying, lets just say:
  "dreaming about the female anatomy is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation... The other eight are unimportant"
  
  :)!
  
  

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