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who is a better composer - Annu Mallik or IR?

Topic started by indian music lover (@ 203.197.82.176) on Sat Feb 23 12:47:57 EST 2002.
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Annu and IR are both great composers - one ranks Olympian in HFM and the other in TFM. Who do u think has achieved more - annu or IR? I think Annu wins easily
Why?

1)Listen to Annu's pathos-filled songs. Thye touch your heart and you can sense that grief or you can get truly moved. That does not happen in case of IRs songs. Listen to Border songs, u get truly moved.

2)IR has not not been as original as Annu. Annu has tried different innovations more frequently as IR.

3)IR has often copied a lot, whereas Annu has worked on his tunes with devotion.

Therefore Annu wins, but of course the margin is small. What do u think?

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Responses:

• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Sat Feb 23 13:05:35 EST 2002
  
  ...What do u think?...
  
  I think this is funny.
  :-)))
  Wud i love to see HCIRFs' reaction to this.
  
  
• From: gondu (@ 12.250.78.200) on: Sat Feb 23 14:56:35 EST 2002
  
  why not start a thread comparing ir and imaan.that will be more apt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  
• From: neethipathi (@ 207.236.25.197) on: Sat Feb 23 15:48:53 EST 2002
  
  Actually Anu Malik performs kathak dances much better than Ilaiyaraja's bharathanaatyam performances. Ilaiya raja makes much better saambaaR than Anu Malik's vegetable kuRuma.
  
  
• From: RD (@ 12.234.202.86) on: Sat Feb 23 20:24:08 EST 2002
  
  IML...you are right.
  
  Anu wins hands down coz of two things.
  1) For his supposedly english album..remeber the song rain is falling falling.
  2) In both Gentlemen and Virasaat he copies ARR and Illayaraja's tamil version tunes and credited himself as the composer.
  
  Anu is the best (of the worst).
  
  
• From: indian music lover (@ 203.197.86.18) on: Sat Feb 23 23:47:46 EST 2002
  
  RD, so what men? Even IR has coppied so many songs ... go here http://copied.newtfmpage.com ...see DARLING DARING DARLING is coppied from some english song. IR has copied more than ANNU.
  
  annu wins easily over IR in calibre but the margin is small. Rilax, dont get nervus.
  
  lern to enjoy music without prejudise... that is better for you.
  
  
• From: Viva_IML (@ 66.75.179.76) on: Sat Feb 23 23:48:40 EST 2002
  
  Hullooo! Why are you guys doubting indian music lover? He is a maha medhai when it comes to music. If he says that Annu Malik is much better than IR, do we know enough to question his judgment? IML is the guy who helps IR copy his music from different sources and also advises Annu Malik about which tunes to avoid since they might seem like copies. He is very much in demand in film music circles since his repository of original and copied tunes is unmatched. Please take him seriously and help establish Annu at the top of Indian Film Music.
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.51) on: Sun Feb 24 02:31:33 EST 2002
  
  What a rubbish topic.Use your brain lah.Anyway good joke lah.AR,Deva and Anu Malik is always like to copy music from other music director or foreign music.Raja is a born Genius.
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 202.9.67.104) on: Sun Feb 24 06:48:10 EST 2002
  
  ANU MALIK HAS ALWAYS RIGHT FROM LAST HAD GONE THRU THIS AS LIKED BY RAAJA ONLY WITH A FEW SONGS...SO OBVIOUSLY HE AND ONLY ONE THAT CAN BE BELEIVED....KEEP IT UP...
  I DOUBT IF NO-JALRA HAS STARTED THIS TOPIC
  
  
• From: Pras (@ 217.128.165.111) on: Sun Feb 24 11:01:43 EST 2002
  
  One song in Lajja was composed by IR ( sung by Latha mangeshkar ), because the director taught that Anu's music wasn't good enough for the scene ....
  
  
  
• From: ss (@ 61.1.212.147) on: Sun Feb 24 11:30:33 EST 2002
  
  Pannikala
  
  Ungalakku
  
  IR pathi theriyurathukku manusanga kooda palaganum
  
  
  
• From: S T S (@ 12.234.131.39) on: Sun Feb 24 12:28:14 EST 2002
  
  indian music lover,
  Darling Darling Darling was scored by Sankar-Ganesh, not IR, if I remember correctly.
  
  
• From: srini (@ 213.42.1.245) on: Mon Feb 25 00:38:00 EST 2002
  
  
  I think the real name of 'the indian music lover' is Anu Malik.
  
  Who else would come up with such statements ?
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Mon Feb 25 00:43:41 EST 2002
  
  Guys:
  
  I just saw this topic today. My reaction to this:
  
  GUFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!
  
  **ROTFL**
  **ROTFL**
  
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
  
  I just cant help laughing. Actually I was feeling a bit unwell this morning, but on seeing this thread I have laughed so much that I feel quite top of the world. Indeed laughter is the best medicine :-))
  
  This thread seems to me to be some kinda joke!!
  
  And IML:
  
  1)About those pathos filled songs, they are so disgusting that right, you start crying..true - not because of the song though but becoz of the misfortune that has befallen u.
  
  2)IR has not been original - yeah right. 6-7 copies/inspirations out of 850 films i.e 5000 songs + BGM sequences + private albums..... thats lack of originality. But several more copies (and direct "xerox copies") for less than 150 movies is the zenith of originality.
  
  3)AM and devotion ???? :-)
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Mon Feb 25 02:34:33 EST 2002
  
  This had to happen. Though I am not exactly an IR hardcore fan the topic irritated me no end. Anu Mallik with IR. Oru dharmam, gnayame kadaiyadha...
  Anu Mallik tappi tavari oru Border pottutaar baakiyellam kuppa thotila kuda podda mudiyaadhu. IR has by my strict judgement scored brilliant music for at least 60 movies ( I am talking entire scores) & till recently he had at least one great no per movie. Even avanga sondha kurallai compare panninal IR will come out a winner ( That is how bad AM's voice is )
  Pls pothumppa vittudunga. Democratic forum enral enna venna ezhuthuvadhaa!
  
  
• From: fundo (@ 203.199.239.232) on: Mon Feb 25 03:25:44 EST 2002
  
  what do u think guys????? comparing ir and annu....its like comparing a golden sheep with a dirtyyyy PIG. so STOP it...
  
  
• From: fundo (@ 203.199.239.232) on: Mon Feb 25 03:26:12 EST 2002
  
  what do u think guys????? comparing ir and annu....its like comparing a golden sheep with a dirtyyyy PIG. so STOP it...
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Mon Feb 25 04:49:49 EST 2002
  
  fundo:
  
  Just a digression -- what is a "golden sheep"??
  :-)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Feb 25 05:19:37 EST 2002
  
  AVR, ...pon muttai idum aadu :-)) [btw, wonderful discussion topics these days]
  
  
• From: ashok (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Mon Feb 25 05:20:01 EST 2002
  
  WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE PERSON WHO HAS STARTED THIS DISCUSSION THREAD, IT IS SIMPLY DISGUSTING TO COMPARE RAAJA WITH annu. BETTER STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP IT....
  I WAS HAPPY THAT NO MORE NEW THREADS ARE THERE COMPARING arr AND RAAJA. BUT IT IS STILL WORST THREADS ARE COMMING UP.... :-((
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Mon Feb 25 06:36:11 EST 2002
  
  AVR, ...pon muttai idum aadu :-))
  
  Twilight zone, please translate that into English as I do not know Thamizh.
  Thanks in advance,
  AVR
  
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Feb 25 07:14:47 EST 2002
  
  AVR, ...translation (its getting to be a habbit these days, to keep translating)..."a goat that lays golden eggs"
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.188.131) on: Mon Feb 25 09:31:56 EST 2002
  
  you find a hobbit in LOTR, but habbit? :)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Feb 25 09:40:26 EST 2002
  
  oh thanks for pointing the spelling mistake ROTFL..ok, i re-post,
  
  AVR, ...translation (its getting to be a habbitt these days, to keep translating)..."a goat that lays golden eggs"
  
  is it fine now ;-))
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Mon Feb 25 10:36:35 EST 2002
  
  "a goat that lays golden eggs"
  what does that mean twilight_zone?
  Does that refer to a Capricornian who has the knack for making money? :-)
  
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.188.131) on: Mon Feb 25 10:47:53 EST 2002
  
  forgive me twilight_zone.
  Hobbit reminded me of LOTR, so couldn't resist it.
  Amaam neenga rendu perum phone-la pesikka maatteengalaa? :)
  
  
• From: O_IS_G (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Mon Feb 25 10:54:03 EST 2002
  
  who is a better scientist Ramar Pillai or Einstein?
  
  I request Admin to close this stupid thread.Anu Mallik .. my foot.. I am not an IR fan ( TFM Thread surfers will vouch for this.) but a genuine TFM lover.The sole purpose of this particular thread is just to irritate and malign.SDB,Salil,Naushad,KA,SJ and .... RDB(hmm..)
  -You take a pick and do these compare and contrast excercises.But Anu mallik,NS,AM .. there is a limit ,i say.
  
  
• From: Daboo Mallik (@ 203.199.231.11) on: Mon Feb 25 12:39:27 EST 2002
  
  Some melody songs in Refugeeeand one of his earlier hit song Churaake DIL mera gori are examples Anu is better than IR..Sometime remake directors want original song tune be repeated and for few tamil remakes Anu has repeated the tunes..Otherwise when Anu came to PEAK, IR was already out of circulation..So need for Anu to follow IR...Please do not insult Anu by comparing with retired super annuation MDS like Ilayaraaja..
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.99.162.140) on: Mon Feb 25 12:40:36 EST 2002
  
  Wow, This thread must be the GREATEST JOKE of all time. Comparing Anu Malik with IR. IML, how can you ever think of such a comparison and say the Anu Malik is better than IR. Man, I can't stop laughing.
  
  I am not a IR or ARR fan. I listen to good music from whoever it comes from (including Deva). I agree that AnuMalik has given some nice numbers but to say that he is better than IR requries some guts (I should appreciate your boldness for that).
  
  
• From: sats (@ 139.177.224.101) on: Mon Feb 25 13:36:17 EST 2002
  
  Actually the person who created this thread , does not intend to have a serious discussion , just wanted to see others react to such a thread idhuku peru dhan "thoondi vittu pakkardhunu " solvanga.
  
  
• From: Exchange Server (@ 12.162.224.5) on: Mon Feb 25 16:30:20 EST 2002
  
  Let me quote something here:
  
  "Ignorance is the mother of impudence". If fellow DFers follow this golden rule, you and I can drive such topics to the trash can faster than it appears on the board.
  
  Anybody listening.
  
  I wish we implement a feature in this forum where such topics are immediately marked as "junk topics" and moved to the "deleted items" folder, much like MS-Outlook. Wow.. that will be a boon ..
  
  
• From: arun_uk (@ 195.93.33.188) on: Mon Feb 25 21:02:52 EST 2002
  
  It's sad to see people with subnormal awareness and intelligence. This guy's(Indian Music Lover) ignorance is phenomenal. Very sad indeed. Wish him good luck in Life!!!
  
  
  

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