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Parathale Parvasam - but no SPB

Topic started by Karan, London (@ 212.67.108.141) on Wed Nov 7 18:26:13 EST 2001.
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What a disappointment!
After the excellently sung songs of Duet I was expecting the collaboration of Rahman and SPbala in this album....but it was not to be!!!!
I feel Rahman is deliberately excluding SP bala from his projects to avoid sharing the success with him!

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Responses:

• From: Shanmugam (@ 63.101.96.1) on: Wed Nov 7 19:09:52 EST 2001
  
  The only KB movie (atleast, after 1980 and of course, before PP) without SPB was 'sindhu bhairavi' (all the songs were sung by KJY/KSC). The music for that movie turned to be a great hit - great songs!!!! There was another movie (stg. Suhasini MD: IR) which had no SPB songs but SPB played the role of a doctor in that movie.
  
  
• From: Jaxon (@ 202.9.186.88) on: Wed Nov 7 20:17:11 EST 2001
  
  Don't worry SPB fans!!!
  SPB has sung in the telugu version of 'Paarthale Paravasam'. The telugu equivalent of the magical "Azhage Sugama" titled "Cheliyaa Kushalamaa".
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 12.86.2.16) on: Wed Nov 7 20:34:36 EST 2001
  
  When Deva has the guts to tune a movie for KB (kalki), with no songs to SPB, why not Rahman?
  
  
• From: fan (@ 202.9.147.228) on: Wed Nov 7 23:23:37 EST 2001
  
  it is the greatest tragedy to the tamil film music.
  if rahman can ask to sing spb in telegu version, why not in tamil version . spb is all the more a tamil than telegu. all his success stories were written in the great city of chennai. if arr can use udit, sukwhinder, bombay drop outs in tamil music , i wonder why spb is not being put to use.in the movie star, spb has given two excellent numbers which no one else could have given. arr should remember that spb has equal number of followers in tamilnadu as arr if not more. SPB is the lifeline of Tamil Film Music and just because he is here for more than 35 years, he cannot be denied oppurtunities. There are more than 7 song in PP and spb was not even given one.
  I hope kb will immeaditely interfere and include one from spb.this is being asked on behalf of severral crores of fans of spb.
  
  
• From: prem (@ 210.186.60.43) on: Wed Nov 7 23:42:00 EST 2001
  
  U r right Fan!!!!!
  
  
• From: Raghuvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Nov 8 05:06:55 EST 2001
  
  Karan, London (@ 212.67.108.141) ;
  
  I agree with you 100%, take the film "star", the songs "rasigha Rasigha" & "manathukkul oro kizhi" had no life in the songs, nothing special about these songs, but ARR is very clever, in order for these songs to be hit, he realised that, he had to make use of SPB's awsome voice, so he did use SPB, hence the songs were an instant super hit.
  
  ARR normally gives all his best tunes to hariharn, Unni, Udit & shanker,who have spoilt many excellent tunes of ARR, by thier horrible nasal voice, but ARR turned a deaf ear towards them, because he wanted the entire credit (100%) for him self, These nasalists survive in this TFM, because other MDs assume that like ARR, if they use this super nasalists they can become as successful as ARR, but they are digging their own grave.
  
  
  ARR knows if he uses SPB in his songs, that SPB will take a huge proprtion of the credit, when there is a ARR - SPB combination, every ones talk about SPB, not ARR, so he uses SPB tactically to make his bad tunes a super hit
  
  
• From: fan (@ 202.9.147.36) on: Thu Nov 8 09:39:42 EST 2001
  
  I hope that the music directors, producers and other people involved in the tamil cinema will understand the pulse of the audience who are missing their idol spb very much. The number of fans of spb is equal to that of arr and ir and i hope that the sentiments of the public will be respected. otherwise, tamil film music will loose out to hindi film music as it happened in laate sixties and early seventies before the advent of ir.
  
  
• From: Raghuvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Nov 8 11:34:07 EST 2001
  
  hello
  
  fan (@ 202.9.147.36) ;
  
  But is it likely, I think we digging our own grave!!!
  
  
• From: (^!^) (@ 207.43.195.202) on: Thu Nov 8 12:11:51 EST 2001
  
  Raghuvaran (@212.2..),
  
  If you seriously are (digging your grave that is), can we all give you a hand? :-)
  
  All volunteers, say Aye (or alternatively MK/EK) :-)
  
  
• From: sats (@ 139.177.224.100) on: Thu Nov 8 13:23:09 EST 2001
  
  if SPB is not singing in a movie , how come it becomes we digging our own grave, this fanatic sense is nothing less than an illiterate self immolating him when there is no rajni movie for a diwali
  
  raghuvaran try to speak sense, eventhough its hard for you
  
  
• From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21) on: Thu Nov 8 15:22:24 EST 2001
  
  what are u people talking about???
  ARR doesn't use SPB cause he is afraid of sharing the success with SPB???
  is this some SPB-fanatics thread???
  i mean sorry guys, all these allegations against ARR doesn't make any sense at all...
  no MD, least ARR, would not stop using a special singer because he is afraid of sharing the success with him... what kind of argumenting is this? this may be the way 14 year old girls would think, but here we are talking about serious music business...
  and besides, why should ARR, especially great ARR have problems with sharing his success with SPB??? ARR has proven his talents years, years back and is still doing it (lagaan), he is no newcomer who should fear SPB to steal him his success...
  please, someone else also say something agains this childish thread...
  
  raycas
  
  
• From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21) on: Thu Nov 8 15:27:05 EST 2001
  
  ARR will have his reasons for not using SPB for the songs in PP...it is upto an MD to decide who the singer is for a certain song...and we know especially ARR is someone who gives a lot of new singers a chance...
  and...if u are a great or whatever fan of SPB..okay, no problem...but that doesn't mean that u have the licence to insult other singers like hariharan, udit and shankar.
  it's always the same...to praise the greatness of someone u just insult the others...
  same in almost all ARR - IR discussions...
  why can't u people just praise one fellow and just leave the others alone???
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.142) on: Thu Nov 8 16:37:39 EST 2001
  
  Karan,London:
  
  not well explenation!!
  
  
• From: fan (@ 202.9.147.227) on: Thu Nov 8 23:43:52 EST 2001
  
  arr should bear in mind that spb has a great fan following in tamil nadu. he has put more than 9 songs in this movie and why he has not used spb. why should he use him in telegu alone. spb's fan following is the largest in tamil nadu and is arr not morally bound to respect the sentiments of spb's fans.cant he give him a chance to render two or three songs . he gives it to udit and kanu or some sigan in hindi. why the double standards?
  
  
• From: Raghuvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri Nov 9 04:53:08 EST 2001
  
  fAN;
  
  I agree with you, why does he use SPB more in telugu, rather than in Tamil??, another example is ARR is used SPB & Children for the entire songs, for the telugu version of "thenali", yet ARR gave only 1 song to SPB in the tamil version of thenali, why???
  
  raycas;
  
  No body is insulting any singers, but stating facts, ARR is an excellent MD, but I would not call him great, I personaly do not think after only 8 years he deserves a padmashree award, it took the great IR, MSV years to get padmashree award.
  
  I do not think Shanker Mahadevan should deserve a national award(for the song "enaseiya pogirai") at all, for his terrible voice. it is not an insult, but we can not take this any more.
  
  thanks
  
  
• From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21) on: Fri Nov 9 06:17:21 EST 2001
  
  "ARR normally gives all his best tunes to hariharn, Unni, Udit & shanker,who have spoilt many excellent tunes of ARR, by their horrible nasal voice"
  if this is not an insult, then i'm bill clinton.
  and how can u call ur or the opinion of a 'fan club' a fact???
  u personally don't think ARR deserves a padmashree award, U don't think Shanker Mahadevan should deserve a national award...excuse me, who are u? some music expert? U think SM has a terrible voice, i could find lots of fan clubs of SM who would argument with u on a high musical standard why he is an execellant singer... if u don't like his voice, it's ur problem...
  all these messages u people wrote above just sounds like childish opinions of SPB fanatics (really, couldn't find one objective argument!!!), okay, sure u are frustrated that SPB not been used by ARR so often...but at this point it should come to an end...u shouldn't go so further to insult others...
  even if i was for example an ARR fanatic, and no one would offer ARR to do music for a film, i surely wouldn't go so far to say that harris jeyaraj's music is crap, or that YSR has no talent or whatever...never, never, never...cause first of all one should learn to respect other musicians...even if u personally don't like their music.
  please stop this thread!
  
  
• From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21) on: Fri Nov 9 06:24:45 EST 2001
  
  in my opinion ARR shouldn't bear in mind that SPB has a great fan following in tamil nadu at all! why should he??? if he would be doing that, then he would only making songs for popular singers...
  he is an independant music director...he composes a song, and then thinks it over which singer would best suit for the song...and then he decides...do u really think most of his fans judge his music by the use of the singers? i'm sure there are only a small number of fanatics who would stop buying ARR cassettes just cause he is not using SPB...
  
  raycas
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.124) on: Fri Nov 9 08:34:17 EST 2001
  
  The music is not "Parthaale Paravasam" it is just "paarthaal thaan paravasam..kettaal kothi rasam". Summa tong..tong..tongunnu oru music...enya intha topica pottu kalutha arukkareenga...musicle oru feelings kidayathu..Sattiyama solren..Manisharma's shajahan is better for sure....
  
  
• From: Raghuvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri Nov 9 09:37:02 EST 2001
  
  raycas (@ 212.186.40.21);
  
  >>i'm sure there are only a large number of fanatics who would stop buying ARR cassettes just cause he is not using SPB...
  <<
  
  u r right man.
  
  thanks
  
  
• From: Raghuvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri Nov 9 10:06:08 EST 2001
  
  SPB sings 4 ARR in Ali arjuna,
  
  tikke
  
  
• From: howzthat (@ 128.194.170.99) on: Fri Nov 9 10:39:50 EST 2001
  
  raycas..
  u sure seemed to be heated up .... u said ARR chooses the rite singers ...it depends on the MD to choose the singers he felt ...who would do a good job of it... then why is that the same songs are given to SPB in the telugu version...lets agree he has given the songs...since SPB's telugu is better than everbody's...but doesnt it mean the same with his tamil...or lets agree ARR wants to bring a new sound(read killed pronounciations) so he used udit and sukwinder....so why didnt he use them in telugu versions...i dont think the music sense of people from these states vary much ....its my opinion that ARR favoured hariharan, unni more than spb..i jus dont know why???
  
  
• From: L.T.T.E (Srilanka) (@ 64.210.241.103) on: Fri Nov 9 17:16:34 EST 2001
  
  howzthat (@ 128.194.170.99) ;
  
  "its my opinion that ARR favoured hariharan, unni more than spb..i jus dont know why???"
  
  sabash, well said, but one small error, the above posting is not just your opinion, but 99.9% of TFM people's view, any way ARR gave one song to the greatest SPB in his next moview "Ali Arjuna",
  
  hey, what the heck, SPB is singing in thavasi, for vidhasaghar, did you guys know that vidhasaghar use to work under SPB in kannada music
  
  

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