Topic started by Prayer (@ 172.188.120.235) on Tue Nov 13 15:31:52 EST 2001.
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I had opportunity to watch the movie and was greatly disappointed with it. The BGM leaves a lot to be desired and frankly was a big reason for my lack of enthusiasm of this movie. Kamal has acted well but the story lacks overall and the song picturisations are very poor.
Now i shall have to await Nandha and hope it is a better production that this.
Thumbs down for Alavanthan
Responses:
- From: onemore (@ 161.150.2.250)
on: Tue Nov 13 15:34:38 EST 2001
http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2001/nov/13abhay.htm
- From: Isaipriyan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Tue Nov 13 16:26:31 EST 2001
The review sounds a little biased and in a wrong direction,people accepted anthony hopkins(a 55-60 year old)when he did the tricks in silence of the lambs and hannibal, so why not kamal??I don't think it would defy any logic.There are still criminals in the world who even leave the FBI clueless.
- From: uv2 (@ 63.225.17.34)
on: Tue Nov 13 16:56:18 EST 2001
Isaipriyan,
I felt the same. People who accepted our action hereos jumping from buildings, escaping gun fire, so on ...cud not accpet kamal's attempt to do this :)) I feel the review is not fare...
- From: musicanalyst (@ 158.252.111.219)
on: Tue Nov 13 17:54:12 EST 2001
i think, aalavandhan is following the trails of Hey Ram, so much Hype, no screenplay and stupid logic based on some delusional story. I suppose abhay is also turning out to be another Hey Ram. Mr. Hasan should've titled it "Abhay (Hey Ram)" or manybe "Hey Ram 2-50 years later" The problem with Kamal Hasan is too much energy spent on public relations rather than on focusing on building a nice story and screenplay, his major talents. if he is interested in being identified as an icon which has fully accepted and has not hesitation in promoting the idea of free sex and all those western values that is very widely already accepted in Indian upper classes, then Kamal Hasan can hope for more roles like Tenali to make up misgivings from failures witth Hey Ram and HR-50yl2 type stuff. i mean what a waste of time n talents. first of all, filmmakers should not exploit the advancing social moral values to make films under high-tech pretexts, Hey Kamal, let hollywood do that. Indians please stick to those good values and only great films can sustain that interest.
- From: a.a.a. (@ 203.199.248.63)
on: Wed Nov 14 10:52:26 EST 2001
This year all tamil remakes have failed miserably in Hindi..Gokulathil Seedhai,Mudhalvan, Minnale Vallarasu......all utter flops...and ABHY...will be wash out with no audiences in North interested in seeing a 1981 Ek dujekaliye star with 35 plus heroines Manisha and Raveena...The story is silly and weak....Aameer with Lagaan and Sharukh with Asoka are far ahead with their meaningful projects....Suresh Krishna is very amaturish as he was in tamil film Sangamam....Abhy...an irritating film...
- From: pg (@ 12.20.190.1)
on: Wed Nov 14 10:54:09 EST 2001
vallarasu remade as Indian is a megahit.
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Wed Nov 14 11:00:20 EST 2001
Abhay was not a remake was it? I thought the Tamil and Hindi versions were shot simultaneously. Another example of a Hindi remake success is Virasaat from Devar Magan.
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Wed Nov 14 11:17:28 EST 2001
I guess Virasaat wasn't released this year, but it was a great kamal movie.
But anyway, with regards to Aalavandhan, are there any positive reviews about the movie at all? Pls share links. It'll be more than a week before I can catch it, and I hope that my enthusiasm to watch the movie doesn't disappear by then.
- From: KS (@ 165.122.128.250)
on: Wed Nov 14 11:21:32 EST 2001
WhyNot,
my guess...reading reviews may affect ur enthu.
- From: veriyan (@ 202.188.228.183)
on: Wed Nov 14 13:53:09 EST 2001
Alavandaan is very good film...if you tell that Hey Ram is junk...then Alavandan is junk..but if you feel that hey ram is good.. then Alavandan is best.....
- From: INDIAN (@ 203.124.2.55)
on: Wed Nov 14 21:55:37 EST 2001
PLEASE DO NOT SEND NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS MOVIE,IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPTS OF THE MOVIE JUST DON'T WRITE TRASH
- From: sedhu (@ 210.186.72.67)
on: Wed Nov 14 22:52:50 EST 2001
Aalavanthaan is a great attempt by Kamal to introduce story-narrating styles never seen before in Indian films. I agree with Veriyan, If you could not like Hey Ram, what more Aalavanthan ? Come on Tamil film viewers, try to graduate from the mundane rivalry and love cliches that have formed the cornerstone (at times the laughing stock!) of Indian cinema. If this was an English film, the plaudits and admiration would have been intense. Thirunthinggappa......Thirunthingga........
- From: Kamal_fan (@ 202.41.117.3)
on: Wed Nov 14 22:54:25 EST 2001
How come people are posting negative comments even before the film is released?!
- From: ALI AHAMED (@ 203.199.231.148)
on: Wed Nov 14 23:55:54 EST 2001
MR PG
INDIAN remake of Vallarasu started of well but flopped subsequently..Refer...www.bollywood on web.com and see box office report.
I saw ABHY in Hyderabad with Urudhu audience...Tamil rssigargal may still like this techno supreme flick
- From: Sathanga (@ 202.95.127.5)
on: Thu Nov 15 01:50:09 EST 2001
mr kamal_fan
thr r lot of reviews came b4 the movie got relesed. and one thing what i felt is, now thr were lot of adv. in the TV for this movie. which i had never seen for any of kamal's movie. its a simple clue for us.
- From: mahabs (@ 203.197.138.163)
on: Thu Nov 15 07:44:01 EST 2001
i wonder why people say hey ram is not a good movie. it is really better than recent kamal movies. a notable film in tamil movie history.
only, the over-enthu of kamal killed it. still it is enjoyable.
anbudan
mahabs
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Thu Nov 15 08:58:02 EST 2001
Here are other not too good reviews: http://movies.sify.com/ and go to reviews.
Interestingly, there are two reviews; one on Abhay, and the other one on Aalavandhan. And the Aalavandhan review seems better than the Abhay review.
Fortunately, the reviews have made me more keen to watch the movie.
- From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Thu Nov 15 10:20:31 EST 2001
"the over-enthu of kamal killed it"..
hmm I don't feel that way.Infact kamal himself says the reason for the flop is that it was projected in a wrong way and the politicians played their part by branding it a anti-Gandhi movie...Thats true.
- From: veriyan (@ 202.188.228.27)
on: Thu Nov 15 14:20:44 EST 2001
nalla rasanai ulla makkal mattume paarka mudintha padam..and those aren't satisfied with this film...aah aah what to tell, tamil cinemavai antha Andavaney ninathalum munnetra mudiyathu...
- From: vch (@ 202.9.180.245)
on: Fri Nov 16 08:45:22 EST 2001
i guess there are many rajini fans in this forum.
Aalavanthaan is a waste.Padayappa is superb.
What a joke.I think kamal must first vacate
india and use his skills in a place where it
is recognised.Same holds for IR.Kamal is being
criticised for all the hardwork and pains he
is taking for each of his movie.
Aalavanthaan whether one likes it or not is
surely going to run for 100 days minimum in chennai.i don't know abt hindi.
- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.4)
on: Fri Nov 16 09:47:25 EST 2001
VCH
Kamal will not gain anything by moving to Hollywood where there are enough actors who can do and even more than what Kamal does sorry
and same goes for IR
I know this may hurt some ego
but that is the fact
As such many of his emotions and facial expression are inspired heavily from Al Pacino,Robin Williams and others
- From: Madhav (@ 172.188.111.106)
on: Fri Nov 16 10:23:44 EST 2001
VCH and UV, how did you manage to bring IR into this Alavandhan Thread?He has nothing to do withthis topic.Stop this nonsense yaar and get out from this thread!
- From: Venki (@ 216.115.36.65)
on: Fri Nov 16 10:53:44 EST 2001
Madhav, When someone is in your state.. we call it 'Pugai Vidudhal' :)
- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.4)
on: Fri Nov 16 11:09:37 EST 2001
Mr.Madhav
I was just replying to VCH and not you buddy
so keep off my track,and you cant dictate terms in a public forum. I dont start or talk nonsense so chill out bro
- From: kamal fan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Fri Nov 16 11:20:04 EST 2001
Any body who is dissapointed by these people's cooments on alavandan,"CHEER UP",Read this review ans the bootom line comments.Kudos to KAMAL HASSAN.
http://www.chennaiweb.com/en/mvr/ala.php
- From: kamal fan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Fri Nov 16 11:20:51 EST 2001
Typo :"and the bottom line"
- From: vch (@ 202.9.180.235)
on: Fri Nov 16 13:11:26 EST 2001
UV,
fine Kamal won't gain anything.Even if he gains
not anything,he won't be criticised atleast for
his efforts like he is being done here.
Whether you accept it or not both Kamal and IR
are legends.And one more thing i'am least
interested in others realising this.And this is
my last posting in this thread.I'll revive this
thread after aalavanthaan crosses 100 days.
- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.4)
on: Fri Nov 16 14:26:10 EST 2001
Vch,Madhav
No one is questioning the talent of Kamal or IR the mere fact that they are still surviving in this industry itself speaks much about their talent. I was just saying about the hype that was generated and fanatical way people react never open to different opinion other than theirs like Taliba.
Anyway if i paid Rs50 for this movie and I dont like it. I think I have alteast some minimum right to comment about it.
Anyway here is what kamal says about his critics in his own words
You sound disillusioned with film critics ?.
"With some of them. Their reviews are so silly. It is apparent they don’t understand cinema and some vested interest is at work. I’m not griping about people putting my work down but they should be competent to write about cinema instead of just bitching. Ask a film critic to make a film and see if it succeeds! It’s okay for a man who buys a Rs. 30 ticket to pan a film if he doesn’t like it because he’s paid to watch it. But it’s unfair for critics to play favourites and let their judgements be coloured by an actor’s ranking, the fate of his last film at the box-office and the like. A critic should be like Bhaskar Ghosh. He’s a man who knows the medium and even when he doesn’t agree with you, he does it without being deliberately offensive and insulting! "
- From: Lavan (@ 172.191.91.130)
on: Fri Nov 16 15:58:07 EST 2001
Hi guys I have been checking out the forum for a few days and have just got the time to post a view. I personally did get to see Alavandhan and although it wasn't for me, Im sure it will appeal to some people. I just feel that Kamal is trying to progress the culture too quickly with his sex talk and talking topics in the movie.The effects are awesome, but the film lacks substance.You can watch it once but it doesn't really grab a place in your heart.The music was dismal throughout the film which was a big negative.
Although ALavandhan is not what i would classify to be a hit movie, you have to give credit to Kamal for at least trying to veer away from the traditional old remade stories and also for his efforts to promote the Tamil movie industry.
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