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Topic started by greatest_spb_fan (@ 212.2.14.241) on Thu Aug 2 04:57:19 EDT 2001.
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why don't anybody start a thread like 'SPB the greatest singer that India had ever produced', pls

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From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.44.43) on: Tue Jul 9 11:52:17 EDT 2002

I am big fan of SPB too. But it is rather surprising people discussing about singers without mentioning about KJY. IMHO he has a god given voice which you will enjoy if you listen to some of his malayalam songs. He is the one who can excel in wide range of singing with equal felicity. Carnatic, Gazal, Fastbeat, Western, Melody.. etc. It is just my opinion.
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Jul 10 05:11:28 EDT 2002

Outsider;

he he, let me help u, higher octaves mean higher pitch, while lower octaves mean lower pitch, yes I agree with u about Kishore Kumar & his bassy voice, but don't 4get SPB, Bala Murali Krishna also have heavy bass based voice, but SPB can make his voice as tender/rough as he wants through his amazing modulation techniques, don't u agree?

thanks
From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.45.161) on: Thu Jul 11 01:53:35 EDT 2002

SPB has a very sweet voice. I mean even when he talks he sounds sweet. Something one cannot say about Janaki and some other singers.
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Thu Jul 11 04:32:23 EDT 2002

Uthaman;

very true!
From: Rahul (@ 195.92.67.67) on: Sun Jul 14 09:45:01 EDT 2002

Uthaman;

That's why, he has dubbed his voice for Kamal, Surilarajan, Mohan (only a few time, while most of the time, it was S.N.Surender who dubbed his voice for mohan), "Theengai Srinivasan", and quit of lot of Telugu /Karnatika actors.
From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.56.225) on: Sun Jul 14 16:34:32 EDT 2002

The most memorable performance from SPB is when he lent his voice to Kitty in the movie 'Sathya'.
His voice was subtle and cold hearted. That made the performance of Kitty stood out. His performance as an actor in Keladi Kanmani and Sigaram touched my heart. Also in his debut movie Manathil Urudhi vendum he did a wonderful job
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Mon Jul 15 06:11:14 EDT 2002

Uthaman;

Have u heard a song by SPB, from the movie "Anjali", (*ring Raghuvaran/Revathy/Prabhu)?

the song is very difficult to render in such heavy voice, if u have not heard it, hear it, then comment upon it.

thanks
From: siva (@ 63.170.144.101) on: Mon Jul 15 15:17:36 EDT 2002

SOmewhere I heard he sung that song with lot of trouble that it took him time to get back to his original voice. But I ma not sure

The song is "Raththiri Neraththu Ratchasa peigalin star wars"..
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Jul 16 05:27:23 EDT 2002

Siva;

thanks, man, that was the song I was referring to.
From: Informer (@ 195.92.67.67) on: Tue Jul 16 16:04:37 EDT 2002

Guys & gals;

SPB is back in baba with two songs, thank u ARR at last.
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Jul 17 04:32:58 EDT 2002

informer;

thanks 4 the info, but I already knew it, :))
From: Ram Lakshman (@ 195.92.67.66) on: Sun Jul 21 15:52:50 EDT 2002

SPB is back in baba
From: devi (@ 66.185.84.76) on: Sun Jul 21 17:51:58 EDT 2002

hello firends, i am looking one SPB number the song goes like this "marakka mudiyavillai enathu kaathalai" (don't know the movie name).If any know the name??anotherone "ninaiviley manaivi endru azhaikiren avalai indru iravellam nilavin nindru ezhuthuven kavithei ondru" what is the movie name for this song
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Mon Jul 22 04:52:17 EDT 2002

Hi Devi

>>"marakka mudiyavillai enathu kaathalai" <, I think it is from "Jaathi malli", a Kushboo film, Vineth & Yuvrani is also in it, music by Marahathamani & film is K.balachandar film.
From: devi (@ 66.185.84.76) on: Mon Jul 22 16:09:08 EDT 2002

Hi Raghu,
thanks for the reply .
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Jul 23 04:56:02 EDT 2002

Hi devi

No Problem!
From: Devi (@ 66.185.84.76) on: Tue Jul 23 21:16:52 EDT 2002

Hi Raghu,
I am looking for those songs in the net,can't find it out. can u let me know where can i find those two songs?
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Jul 24 04:42:56 EDT 2002

Hi devi;

If u send me an email, I will send u alist, where u will probably find the songs, if not try

www.dhool.com
www.raaga.com
www.swaraa.com

and search by artists SPB
From: Sathya (@ 164.164.86.66) on: Wed Jul 24 06:29:25 EDT 2002

YUCK !!!

How can any one make such a idotically categorical statement like "SPB the greatest singer that India had ever produced". How many singers have you heard from the thousands India has produced ?

And even if you restrict to just film music, how can you even bear to comapare this chappie with the likes of PBS or KJY ? or moving to the North - singers of the calibre of Rafi, Talat, Saigal, Mukesh, Manna Dey etc.(not even considering Lata here) Abs blasphemous.

SPB is a fine singer - but thats just what - and all that - he is. Dont know what are the parameters you have taken - but just see that you word the statements better.

Sathya
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Jul 24 07:00:01 EDT 2002

Sathya;

I bet u, i have heard more songs than u have heard in your entire life, u must be really thick or have no sense in music @all,SPB is the Most versatile singer ever, yes KJY is fine carnatic artists, & PBS is fine melodius singer that's about it, but SPB can any sort out of songs, I do not have time list such songs to u, even If I do, it will never sink into your head, as you r a very narrow minded person,

if u want to challenge me, then do so, with proofs as y SPB is the greatest or not the greatest, & I will prove it 2 u SPB is the greatest, with due respect to other singer.
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Jul 24 07:01:10 EDT 2002

oops;

I meant "SPB can sing any sort of song with great ease"
From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on: Wed Jul 24 07:33:57 EDT 2002

Satya,

So SPB is a "Chappie" that "we" cannot "bear" to compare with ..... eh?very well said i think
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From: devi (@ 66.185.84.76) on: Wed Jul 24 07:40:35 EDT 2002

Raghu,
I tried all those sites already no luck. if u have those songs in mp3 can u send it to me. Thanks

.
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Jul 24 08:29:14 EDT 2002

outsider;

ha :))

Devi;

I will email u, if I have the song :)
From: devi (@ 66.185.84.76) on: Wed Jul 24 08:32:09 EDT 2002

thanks raghu
i really appreciate that
From: Sathya (@ 164.164.86.66) on: Thu Jul 25 03:28:56 EDT 2002

I am still awaiting the parameters measured on which you say that he is the BEST (Gaaawwd) ever.

First PLEASE CLARIFY - by SINGER, I hope u r restricting urself to FILM singers. Or are you claiming that SPB is superior to the likes of Balamurali, Bhimsen Joshi et al.
From: Venkat (@ 64.228.226.62) on: Thu Jul 25 04:25:41 EDT 2002

Listen to how spb sounded in 1970s. Try http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/musiclover127

Venkat
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Thu Jul 25 05:56:30 EDT 2002

Sathya;

we are indeed talking about FILM MUSIC, means Play back singing, Not carnatic, not ghazal, not qwalis, not bhajan, not rap, Not reggae.

Yes I agree BMK is an excellent Carntic, infact he is one of my other favourite like KJY, PBS, AMR, Ghantasala, ..etc.

but in play back singing, no body, I mean NO BODY can excel SPB!, BMK once said "Balu can sing any of my songs, but I wish I can do the same, but I can not,", that's the beauty of SPB, besides his singing talents, just listen to this guys's amazing baritone voice & how he modulates his voice to suit actor, here are some eg;

1) for Sivaji sir - SPB sings in a very deep voice
2) for super* - SPB sings in a deep voice & in style to suit Rajni
3) Mohan- SPB sings is soft voice to suit mohan's soft voice!

can KJY, TMS, PBS, BMK, do that ????
no way man!
From: siva (@ 63.170.144.101) on: Thu Jul 25 09:17:52 EDT 2002

Hey raghu,

How can you miss, how nicely SPB matched Kamal in all his songs? In songs like "Nadiganin kadali nadaham enadi" and "vanithavani" the transition from Kamal's voice to SPB's voice is superb.

Last but not the least SPB was terrific for MGR in "Paadum bodhu Naan thenral katru"

Why I like SPB is he brings out the best even in otherwise so-so songs. I like many songs just because the way he has sung. The other day I was listening to "Degam Pattu" song in Sattam. It was a ordianary dance competition song. But the way he has sung matched very well with the situation.
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Thu Jul 25 10:23:04 EDT 2002

Siva;
>>the transition from Kamal's voice to SPB's voice is superb.
<<

totally agreed

>>I like many songs just because the way he has sung<<

very very true, even an ordinary silly tune can be made to listen to through SPB's style & voice!
From: JJ (@ 65.69.57.230) on: Thu Jul 25 11:40:09 EDT 2002

Mohan's soft voice??? Did he have voice? I thought he was a dumb rode his luck with Surendar's voice!! I think even at home Surdendar is lending his voice!!!
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Fri Jul 26 04:57:29 EDT 2002

JJ;

Yes , S.N.Surender did lend his voice to Mohan in most of the films, but S.N.surender's voice is soft any way.
From: Sathya (@ 164.164.86.66) on: Fri Jul 26 07:17:42 EDT 2002

Thank you for the clarification. A statement like " 'SPB the greatest singer that India had ever produced" hardly conveys that though.

Anyway, even in the realms of film playback singing, I would like to know how you decide him to be the best. Just because he sang for all those actors doesnt make him great.

PBS sang for Sivaji, for Gemini, for Balaji, for Muthuraman etc - so does it make him the greatest playback singer ? How absoultely ridiculous.

And talking of voice modulation, he can come nowhere near the likes of Mohd Rafi. And in terms of sheer melody, he cant ever imagine to be amongst the likes of Talat or even PBS.

As to what BMK said, well similar praises have been earned by so many other from the Clasical legends. Why, Pandit Jasraj once said that he considers himself a mere toddler in front of Lata. I dont think its worth getting into arguments on that score.

For most part in your response, you have just kept parroting that he was the best without substantiating on WHY you say so. I am most willing to agree with you if you could just provide some solid reasons for your statement rather than just repeating that he is the best.
From: av (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Fri Jul 26 07:33:45 EDT 2002

raghu:

As per u BMK says: "SPB can sing all my songs but I cannot sing those by SPB". Where have u heard BMK make this statement? Could you give us a link to the article/interview?

Secondly, let us assume BMK really said this. Do you honestly think this is enough to make u reach the conclusion that SPB is the greatest? If yes, then why are you unwilling to believe SPB when he says that Mohammed Rafi is his idol, and he can never scale the heights scaled by Mohammed Rafi? :-)

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