Topic started by Mahibalan (@ 61.1.221.149) on Sun Jan 21 00:36:56 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
I thing ARR is the worst music director.
Actually he is not the Music Director.
Music Editor.
Cutting and Otting is ARR's Policy.
People Whose doesn't know about Illayaraja's Background Music, Why Compare to Illayaraja
Responses:
- From: Jawahar (@ 212.26.18.30)
on: Sun Jan 21 06:01:24 EST 2001
Mahibalan,
You make a bold and true statement. ARR is technically good sound engineer. But he is not a musician. But now the pathetic thing is , India is facing a cultural change, in which, people don't want to hear the music orignated from India. M Tv and Discothe clubs are now a days very famous. Moreover, Beer is a common drink for Indian City people. Sarayam is the famous drink for Indian Village people. THis is the reason, people like more sound then only they can hear the sound in thier 'kik'. No one need real music now a days. Very few people like melodies and very very people want to hear the big sound rather than mild music. I strongly feel, because of western and golbal impact on Indian people, they are now moving towards a strange world, in which they don't want to give up the old and they want to fully enjoy the new culutre, where freedom is more. This applicable to Music also. That is the reason, now a days, even in Sangeetha Kala Sabhas are getting closed. Nattupura isaik kalaignarkal are very very few now. SOund engineers like ARR and Athithyan are able to become Music Directors. Vazhga India. Valarga avargalathu puthu Kalachchaaram, Puthu Saththam ( Isai yendru naan solla maataen).
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Sun Jan 21 13:26:57 EST 2001
Jawahar,
:-) Vazhga India. Valarga avargalathu puthu Kalaa Saarayam.
- From: IR-fan (@ 192.135.244.69)
on: Mon Jan 22 00:01:44 EST 2001
It's not fair to blame ARR like this.
He is a good musician if not good composer.
Please stop discussing on this thread.
- From: Vijay (@ 195.102.166.130)
on: Mon Jan 22 08:12:11 EST 2001
Why do you guys (both Ilayaraja fans and A.R.Rahman fans) bash each other like this? The simple fact is, if anyone is to be blamed for the degeneration of Tamil Film Music it is Deva and S.A.Rajkumar. The only thing that A.R.Rahman is not good in is his choice of singers. Sadhna Sargam, Mahalakshmi, Kavitha Krishnamoorthy, Vasundra Das... the list could go on and on... Is he intent on destroying his own good compositions by using their voices? What's even worse is, no sooner does he introduce a new singer (or someone who pretends to be able to sing) than Deva and S.A.Rajkumar decide they've got to follow the trend and use these singers in their films as well. Practically every film album by Deva and S.A.Rajkumar now has at least one song sung by Sukhvinder Singh or Shankar Mahadevan. This is getting worse by the month.
- From: Theva (@ 142.156.1.223)
on: Mon Jan 22 18:20:02 EST 2001
If ARR is a sound engineer or whatever you wanna call. He must be DAMN good .. to replace Ilayarajah who by your name is consider an MD.
So, a sound engineer replaced an MD. Ain't dat a funny thang?
- From: devafan (@ 63.28.72.2)
on: Mon Jan 22 20:55:47 EST 2001
No one can replace ilaiyaraja. ARR - the so called Sound engg or MD or Xerox or carbon copy etc., can only be compared with good MD like Deva or SAR or chandrabose.This is not a funny thing.Its real.Everybody knows about it.
- From: Indian (@ 203.173.140.163)
on: Mon Jan 22 21:24:17 EST 2001
You guys, get a life. ARR is good. Like that guy said, blame Deva and Rajkumar.
- From: Truth (@ 216.191.77.181)
on: Mon Jan 22 21:56:52 EST 2001
I think Ever single MD is there make a decent living Music, If people didn't like raja at first place he would be a music director now. Same applies to all. May be one's capacity is more than others.
- From: Siva (@ 204.94.209.1)
on: Mon Jan 22 23:19:09 EST 2001
Its ridiculous to say arr is not a good musician. i agree he is a damn good sound engineer but he is also a good musician. i am a die hard IR fan, but i do appreciate the gems that ARR has come up with...
think of it this way, long long ago, people were fighting who was a better musician, Mozart or Bach.... well, does it matter now ..????? the World recognizes both of them and many more of the wcm composers... thats one reason why wcm still lives till today... its because they realise that people vary in their musical taste.. but arguments will go on and on and on about who is better, but you may be assured that there will never be a definite answer! its all subjective... maybe the majority will have the same preference, thats all.....
- From: OneWhoWorshipsIR (@ 35.9.12.189)
on: Tue Jan 23 00:20:47 EST 2001
One cannot make another agree to his own opinions.
applies both to IR fans and ARR fans.
SO,I think such arguments are waste of time. I would suggest that this thread be deleted.
- From: Disappointed (@ 203.200.1.184)
on: Fri Jan 26 09:48:21 EST 2001
I didn't believe that IR fans would degrade themselves in such a pathetic manner. Guys, this is really bad for a competitive culture. I know IR fans here wouldn't even like to compare IR with ARR, but don't create abusive threads against others. I don't really know the reason why these threads are kept open by admin. Do they appreciate this ?
- From: arkans (@ 202.88.152.8)
on: Thu Feb 1 06:11:25 EST 2001
It is time waste to talk about the obsolete ir
music now, the current trend goes with arr songs
breazing in the air, please hear duet of arr, and
talk, no one in indian cine music has composed
a full length xaxa phone like this, he is the best
arkans
- From: arkans (@ 202.88.152.8)
on: Thu Feb 1 06:19:31 EST 2001
Sucess is what considered most in any
business, composing a dozen of film,
and winning one or two is not a big
thing, can any one in the forum say
how many ir has composed, how much of
it is successful in %, but when u arr
he started at 92', success is taraga
mantra, but he still keep mum, silent
in tamil they will say "pathaviyilum panivu",
and in english "we are silent because we
r sound" like that arr keeps himself,
silent but ir fans keep it wrong point
of arguing that arr is not a music director,
no one can get padma shree without an
effort or caliber, i still agree not only
me every one. every tamilian knows
that ir is the best in melody, but
at the same time, when a youngster like
arr (prodigious musician) is coming up
he has keep his way away from film
music, he is giving report in kumudham
that i wasted my life in film music, but
he is accepting some films, it shows
that he is not a promise keeper
- From: Rams (@ )
on: Wed Mar 21 07:01:45 EST 2001
How fuc..ked this page. Non sense. Everybody have their one Style. Arr is not illayaraja and Illayaraja is not ARR. Comparing two man is nothing but sh..it. Be your self and dn't be others.
- From: abc (@ 203.199.130.177)
on: Thu Mar 22 05:28:43 EST 2001
Dear readers,
I disagree that ARR is a BAD md. That's unfair.
However of late, his tunes lack melody.They have become clumsy,cluttered up with excessive orchestration. He sound too repititive and too complex. Earlier md's often gave simpler tunes, that were more melodious.
Moreover he shouldnt sing. He makes you wince in pain when he does so!!
But still, he is technically brilliant.
- From: Anonymous (@ 63.44.143.65)
on: Thu Mar 22 21:09:53 EST 2001
Come on you guys, grow up.
ARR is still an amateur. It will take him 50 years to work like IR. What IR did in 30s, ARR will do when he is in his 50s.
ARR cannot even think of composing some original theme music like IR. Don't talk about the Bombay theme. It is not music, just a flute playing some nursery rhymes. Grow up guys! It is not time yet to compare ARR with IR, we should wait until he is mature enough to be compared to IR :)
- From: rr (@ 203.197.133.144)
on: Thu Mar 22 22:23:33 EST 2001
all the illayaraja fans just f***** , hang urself..!!
- From: rr (@ 203.197.133.144)
on: Thu Mar 22 22:23:42 EST 2001
all the illayaraja fans just f***** , hang urself..!!
- From: rr (@ 203.197.133.144)
on: Thu Mar 22 22:24:54 EST 2001
all illayaraja fans, f*****, hang urself..
illayaraja is a stupid crap , and his followers r more than that..
- From: GENERAL (@ 203.126.228.21)
on: Thu Mar 22 23:18:57 EST 2001
IR CANNOT ABLE TO PRODUCE GOOD MUSIC NOW A DAYS SO ULTIMATELY IR FANS JUMP TO ARR AS HIS MUSIC IS NOT GOOD, IT IS A ONE WAY OF PRETEND TO SAVE IR ASS. IT IS TRUE THAT ARR ALWAYS GOOD ENOUGH THAN IR OR OTHER MD. ARR HAS TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE AND COMPOSING TALENT IN MUSIC. SO NO ONE CAN BEAT ARR UNLESS IF THE MD HAS THE SPECIAL QUALITY THAN ARR.
- From: KRR (@ 203.120.247.67)
on: Fri Mar 23 00:01:16 EST 2001
The statement is nothing short of stupidity.By making these things people are only degrading TFM.It is better to ignore these kind of remarks
- From: Gen (@ 203.126.228.21)
on: Fri Mar 23 04:17:33 EST 2001
TO MAHIBALAN,
I LOOKING FOR BAD WORDS OTHER BBBBBBB TO SCOLD YOU FOR CREATING THIS THREAD. WHAT A SHAME TO TFM.
- From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.20)
on: Fri Mar 23 05:56:29 EST 2001
Permanent fun thread number 3, after the S A Rajkumar thread and Mobile phone melodies thread. People, please invest in a grammar book!
:-) Highly amused, by both the topic of the thred and the responses!
--Karthik
- From: fanofir&msv (@ 203.197.82.45)
on: Fri Mar 23 06:03:21 EST 2001
Hello ARR fans,
I know your ARR loyalty, and that you dont want to see the good work done by other md's like MSV/IR etc. Bad luck though!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- From: UVII (@ 63.76.3.20)
on: Fri Mar 23 10:39:34 EST 2001
ADMIN,
I think this thread can be closed....enough mud has been thrown at each other groups :-))
- From: KS (@ 165.122.129.102)
on: Fri Mar 23 11:17:05 EST 2001
Admin,
Pl. close this thread and make sure that such threads are not given much life in future as they can do no good but only harm...this is just to save our newtfmpage's sanctity.
- From: gen (@ 203.126.228.21)
on: Mon Mar 26 05:28:34 EST 2001
Best is wrongly manipulated by topic starter Mahibalan. I regret to favour for newtfmpage.
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