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Early 70s : SPB+Shankar Ganesh

Topic started by Sim (@ 203.135.21.42) on Thu Jul 31 03:02:04 EDT 2003.
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Some extreme quality songs were produced by Shankar Ganesh's combination with SPB in the early 70s.
Should we enumerate, analyse, discuss those great ones from a truly remarkable period?

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Responses:

• From: Evolution Vii (@ 203.124.2.59) on: Fri Aug 1 01:01:51 EDT 2003
  
  naan katil meley kandean venilla...neeya
  naan padum padal...naan yean piranthen
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.134.69.162) on: Fri Aug 1 05:01:53 EDT 2003
  
  Evolution Vii,
  
  yes, those were good songs indeed!, how about
  one song where SPB sings for Kaml , again the MD being SG, the song was very famous in the 70??
  
  the song is 'Unai naan paarthathu venila medaiyil' ??
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 203.124.2.59) on: Fri Aug 1 05:19:06 EDT 2003
  
  its from pattikkatu thambi right...really a gd song...all the while I thought the song was for jai shankar..
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 203.124.2.59) on: Fri Aug 1 05:49:49 EDT 2003
  
  opps...pattikaatu raaja...& it was for kamal...sorry for the error
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Fri Aug 1 13:53:44 EDT 2003
  
  En kadhali yaar sollava isai ennum penn allava --The first SPB+KJY duet in TFM was from SG. Movie engamma sabadham acted by Sivakumar and Kamal.
  
  
  
• From: Sim (@ 195.219.173.3) on: Sat Aug 2 04:09:44 EDT 2003
  
  Any nostalgia buffs here?
  
  I don't understand Tamil yet I can enjoy so many songs in it, specially from the early 70s.
  
  What about that resounding and emphatic repetition of the word "Radha....radha....radha by SPB in an early 70s song? Was not it composed by Shankar Ganesh?? There might be many more such thunderous and powerful songs by this combination in that period (circa 1968 to 1973).
  
  
• From: Sim (@ 195.219.173.4) on: Mon Aug 4 03:22:07 EDT 2003
  
  Any early 70s "rasikas"???????????????
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 208.220.245.72) on: Mon Aug 4 04:37:13 EDT 2003
  
  x, I remember Engamma sabadham to be MDed by VijayaBhasker
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 203.124.2.55) on: Mon Aug 4 09:46:18 EDT 2003
  
  I think the "radha" song is from meendum kokila..
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.134.69.162) on: Mon Aug 4 11:56:06 EDT 2003
  
  evolution vii,
  
  but IR composed for 'Meendum kokila'.
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 203.124.2.20) on: Tue Aug 5 01:14:07 EDT 2003
  
  rite..it was by Ir..
  
  
• From: Sim (@ 195.219.173.3) on: Sat Aug 9 09:51:15 EDT 2003
  
  So 70s have no patron!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 67.112.201.130) on: Tue Aug 12 11:37:40 EDT 2003
  
  Guys,
  
  Here are some songs that I could recollect:
  
  1. Aval - Geethaa Oru Naal Pazhagum Uravallaa (SPB + PS)
  2. Ennadi Meenachchi - Romba Naalagaa Ennakkoru Aasai (SPB + VJ)
  3. Neeya - Oree Jeevan Ondree Ullam (SPB + VJ)
  4. Neeya - Oru Koodi Inbangal Uruvaagum (SPB + SJ)
  5. Neeya - Unnai Eththani Murai Paarththaallum (SPB + SJ)
  6. Raani Yaar Kuzhanthi - On a hot summer morning (SPB) - This was featured once in SOTD. If you are interested, please check the archives
  7. Ranga Raattinam - Oru Malligai Mottu Mazhai (SPB)
  8. Thaai Illamal Naan Illai - Nadiganin Kaathali Naadagam (SPB)
  
  
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 67.112.201.130) on: Tue Aug 12 11:40:37 EDT 2003
  
  X,
  
  En Kaathali Yaar Endru Naan song, I guess is not from Engamma Sabatham. It is from the movie Thangathilee Vairam. I donno the music director of this movie!
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 64.136.27.31) on: Tue Aug 12 12:30:55 EDT 2003
  
  Sim,
  The Radha Radha song you're talking about is,
  
  en kaadhal kanmani
  aedhaedhoa ninaithaaloa
  solla naanam vandhadhoa
  sollaamal maraithaaloa
  radha radha radha
  
  I'm not sure if SG did the music for this.
  
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 165.121.139.228) on: Tue Aug 12 13:49:38 EDT 2003
  
  I am not sure if this has been discussed before. Yesterday by chance I was watching the song "Adho andha thendral oru poovai kEttadhu, poova illai penna endru ennai paarkudhu" or something similar to that. I am almost certain it is Shankar Ganesh who composed the music, because at the time of its release I recall my circle of TFM lovers claiming it is by MSV and later it was made known it was indeed SG who composed the song. A good song.
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 128.107.253.37) on: Tue Aug 12 13:55:49 EDT 2003
  
  Music4ever,
  I think the song u mentioned was sung by Malysia Vasudevan and not SP Bala. BTW, which movie is that? Some Bhakiyaraaj movie, right?
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78) on: Tue Aug 12 14:17:34 EDT 2003
  
  GCT_Kuil, I am sorry I did not read the title of the thread properly. I just assumed it is a thread for SG. Of course MV sang that song from the movie Poi Saatchi. Yes, it is a Bhakiyaraaj movie. Didn't he have trouble releasing it? Or is it that the movie bombed?
  
  As for SPB+SG, how about the following song (although it also has a female voice)?
  
  Pullanguzhal mozhi thamizh thamizh thamizh-ena
  poovai idhazh muthu chimizh chimzh-ena
  vandhaaL ....
  
  Also
  
  Nadiganin kaadhali
  naadagam Enadi
  aadalil paadalil vallavan naanadi
  
  from thai sollai thattadhE?
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78) on: Tue Aug 12 14:22:57 EDT 2003
  
  Oops isn't thaai sollai thattadhE an MGR movie? The song that I mentioned is from a kamal movie which I think also starts with "thaai".
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 128.107.253.37) on: Tue Aug 12 14:23:16 EDT 2003
  
  Music4ever,
  I remember Poisatchi was released. Infact, I remember watching this movie recently in video tape (But ofcourse forgot the song!). I remember this movie released during my school days and was a utter flop.
  
  Which movie is Pullanguzhal .... song?
  
  Nadiganin Kaathali is from Thaai Illamal Naan Illai (Kamal and Sri Devi)
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 128.107.253.37) on: Tue Aug 12 14:24:10 EDT 2003
  
  Yeah Thaai Sollai Thattathee is MGR - Saroja Devi movie
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78) on: Tue Aug 12 14:38:46 EDT 2003
  
  GCT_Kuil, I have no idea which movie the Pullanguzhal song is from. There were a number of SG songs in the early to mid eighties that were good to hear.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Tue Aug 12 14:56:42 EDT 2003
  
  On the topic of SG, (though not SPB),
  does anyone remember the stylish song - Deviyin thirumugam darisanam thandadhu' from Vellikizhamai viratham. Masterpiece.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.134.69.162) on: Wed Aug 13 07:25:48 EDT 2003
  
  how about the song, 'Avazh oru menahai' from the film natchathram, SPB was awsome in this song :)
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Wed Aug 13 09:07:39 EDT 2003
  
  Aval oru menagai is a great song. SPB's one of the best. I heard SG suttufied the tune from telugu movie but still it's a great song indeed.
  
  Dheviyin thirumugam is copied from a hindi song but I can't remember it now.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Wed Aug 13 10:22:16 EDT 2003
  
  The Poi Saatchi song is a duet by VJ-MVD (SG) and it has an "MGR"ish feel to it.
  
  Pulanguzhal Mozhi Thamizh Thamizh Thamizh Ena...
  A memorable duet by VJ-SPB (MSV) from the film Oorum Uravum.
  
  Both these songs are available at www.vanijairam.com
  
  Deviyin Thirumugam, AFAIK, is not based on an Hindi number. The "hindi" bit in the song is a popular "interlude" from Bobby (from the song Ae Ae Ae Ae Fasah,) which was used by SG for this song.
  
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 67.112.201.130) on: Wed Aug 13 10:36:08 EDT 2003
  
  Thanks for the info Naaz!
  
  BTW, Is Natchaththiram's MD Shankar Ganesh?? I thought it was Devaraajan!
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 165.121.132.176) on: Wed Aug 13 10:57:02 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz, what a pleasant surprise that the Pullanguzhal song was composed by MSV. The Poi Satchi song definitely has an MGR-ish feel to it. That's why many of us thought then that it was composed by MSV! :)
  
  GCT_Kuil, I believe Natchathiram's MD was SG.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.69.255.203) on: Wed Aug 13 11:33:13 EDT 2003
  
  Music4ever -
  
  Yes, the "MGR"ish feel in Poi Saatchi was intentional I would think (remember how Bhagyaraj was into "en raththaththin raththame" and such) and SG went back to their Naan Yaen Pirandhaen/Idhaya Veenai days to pick up that essence in the 80s!
  
  There is another IR song by VJ-MVD which also feels like an MGR number (it was for Rajnikanth...so not all that much of a stretch) which is "Sugam Sugame Thodaththodath Thaane" from Naan Potta Savaal. When I listen to this song I am reminded of "Neram Pournami Neram" (Meenava Nanban) and "Inbame Undhan Paer Pennmaiyo" (Idhayakkani) - both by MSV.
  
  Natchchaththiram was by SG, but I believe almost all the songs were either derived or "lifts" from the original Sivaranjani. The music for this film was by Charkravarthi or Ramesh Naidu? Somebody else who is familiar with TeFM might have the right answer.
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 165.121.136.84) on: Wed Aug 13 12:03:26 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz, indeed Bhagyaraj even used some steps that were reminiscent of MGR in the andha ezhu naatkal song "enni irundhadhu eedera", IIRC. It is time I listened to the hits of Meenava Nanban. I used to love the song thangathil mugam pudhaithu in Meenava Nanban in the seventies :)
  
  I believe Natchathiram MD was Chakravarthi. I could be wrong though.
  
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.9.170.105) on: Thu Aug 14 05:00:06 EDT 2003
  
  Sankar Ganesh is the MD for Oorum Uravum. Sivaji and KRViajaya acted in the lead roles. Direction is Major Sundarajan.
  
  I am surprised to know SG was the MD for Poi Saatchi. Whenever I hear the song, I had a strong feeling that MSV was the composer.
  
  
• From: Sathya (@ 67.85.212.31) on: Thu Aug 14 07:34:01 EDT 2003
  
  Radavan
  You are right.
  Some of the early Bagyaraj movies MSV was the MD.
  Antha 7 naatkaL, oru kai Osai, Bama rukmani, Poy saatchi.
  In Poy saatchi the court scene was hilarious.
  Bama rukmani had a very good duet by SPB and Janaki "nee oru kOdi malar koodi uruvAnavaL ezhil uruvAnavaL" - Bagyaraj and Pravina.
  
  oru kai osai had one SPB duet "muthu thAragai vaana veedhi vara"
  
  
• From: Sathya (@ 67.85.212.31) on: Thu Aug 14 07:35:35 EDT 2003
  
  Ragavan
  Sorry for the typo in your name.
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 165.121.140.178) on: Thu Aug 14 09:05:58 EDT 2003
  
  So the controversy still continues. Like I said earlier, my circle of TFM listeners initially (and strongly) felt MSV was the MD of Poi Saatchi, and later we were reconciled to the fact that it was SG. Sathya, are you sure MSV was the MD of Poi Saatchi?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.9.170.105) on: Thu Aug 14 09:29:11 EDT 2003
  
  Sathya, "Muthuth Thaaragai" was it now by PJayachandran?
  
  Bama Rukmani has one more good song "Gokulak Kannan Nee Enru Indthak Kothaikuth Therium" by VJ. "Kathavath Theradi Bama" by MV is also good.
  
  If SG is the MD for "Poi Saatchi" then they had heavy influence of MSV's music.
  
  

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