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Unearthing Rare Golden Oldies of TFM into MP3s

Topic started by sk (@ 202.156.2.250) on Fri Jun 27 07:43:58 EDT 2003.
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There are many many wonderful songs in old TFM (especially belonging to the period before 1980) which many of us have heard and enjoyed in the days of their popularity, but, as years rolled by those songs came to be heard only rarely. This thread is an attempt to unearth such golden oldies. Those who have longed to hear such songs can make a "nEyar viruppam" request here. In response, those who have the songs can convert them into MP3s and share it with others here. Through sites like coolgoose.com and Yahoo briefcase, it is now possible to do such sharing easily.

As rare songs are unearthed and brought out as MP3s, it would be natural to listen to them and discuss them here, so that this thread does not simply become just a set of requests and supplies.

My sister Sathya Kabali has a large collection of rare TFM goldies in cassettes and she is in the process of converting them into MP3s and putting them in coolgoose. The songs she has uploaded are available at this link:

http://www.coolgoose.com/go/music?user=sathyakabali&go=1

(You need to get your own coolgoose account in order to download.)

I would also start uploading MP3s of rare songs to the same link. For sure, you can look forward to a great set of songs being added to this collection soon.

We look forward to enthusistic contribution from many forumers.

Vijay's collection: http://www.coolgoose.com/go/music?user=goldies&go=1

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• From: thenraja (@ 167.192.89.1) on: Fri Oct 29 13:30:44 EDT 2004
  
  Evolution Vii/Sathya,
  Here is the mp3 version of a very nice song by SPB from the film 'Malligai mohini'
  (please right-click on link and select 'save target as') [Please note that this link will be valid until Nov 15, 2004]
  
  http://s94650611.onlinehome.us/mp3/ oru_paadalai_pala.mp3
  
  Sathya,
  who is the MD for 'Malligai Mohini'?
  
  
• From: thenraja (@ 167.192.89.1) on: Fri Oct 29 13:32:22 EDT 2004
  
  Sorry that the link did not show up properly
  Let me try one more time.
  http://s94650611.onlinehome.us/mp3/oru_paadalai_pala.mp3
  
  
• From: Sathya (@ 67.85.213.154) on: Fri Oct 29 13:35:17 EDT 2004
  
  babaji
  You are right about the picturisation of "avaL oru navarasa".
  Usually MGR makes all efforts forhis songs to become superhits. In USV MGR wanted to make use of the under water dance in Thailand in one of the songs.
  all the other songs in USV were well picturised.
  siriththu vAzha vENdum in Tigerbalm gardens
  thangath thONiyilE in the boat ; there is a shot where a landing flight just passes above MGR's head. I don't know how long the cinematographer Ramamurthy had to wait just for that one shot... so beautifully picturised in that song. When you see the movie ,you will be immersed in the tune and melodious voices of KJJ and PS you are certain to miss that shot.
  nilavu oru peNNaagi picturised in the beach.
  pachchai kiLi - dream song
  ulagam...... MGR tried to cover the maximum of Expo 70 in Japan in this last song.
  bansayee - picturised in Thailand,Bangok, dolphin show.
  Finally MGR was left with the song avaL oru navarasa to include under water dance.He cleverly mixed some under water shots of himself doing the dance picturised in the studio.
  
  
• From: Sathya (@ 67.85.213.154) on: Fri Oct 29 13:38:10 EDT 2004
  
  Thenraja
  G.K.Venkatesh is the MD for Malligai mokini
  
  
• From: thenraja (@ 167.192.89.1) on: Fri Oct 29 14:45:43 EDT 2004
  
  Sathya,
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: Evolution (@ 202.156.217.129) on: Sat Oct 30 01:20:52 EDT 2004
  
  Sorry Sathya Madam..recommendationnukku romba nandri..Vanakkam thenraaja..nandri antha oru padalukku saar..neenge theanisai raaja vaa??..:)
  babaji spb saar paadiya pala padalgalil ithu oru padal saar..
  thread suudu pudichitaa??
  sathya & makkaley ungalukku ethavathu padal??
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 202.156.217.129) on: Sat Oct 30 01:24:39 EDT 2004
  
  its an excellent quality thenisai raaja..romba danks..Maybe we need to regroup & have a webpage where we can upload all our neyar's virupam plus ours too..coolgoose is way too slow..Yaam petra inbam peruga iiv vayyagam muluzhuthum..:)
  As for "nee varuvai enna", take ur time sathya..no hurry..thanks
  
  
• From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 192.28.2.52) on: Sat Oct 30 02:02:13 EDT 2004
  
  Sathyakka,
  Did you take off 'margazhip paniyil' from the 'ungalviruppam' list?
  Can you upload again ? Thanks!
  
  
• From: thenraja (@ 66.56.50.191) on: Sat Oct 30 20:50:04 EDT 2004
  
  Evolution Vii,
  you are very welcome. I got this song from a friend only a few days back.
  
  
• From: Sathya (@ 67.85.213.154) on: Sun Oct 31 12:31:47 EST 2004
  
  Sundar Ramanathan
  Yes, I did take off some songs.
  I wiil upload "mAgazhip paniyil" for you.
  
  Thenraja
  Thanks a lot for the Malligai mokini song.
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 165.21.154.11) on: Sun Oct 31 21:30:18 EST 2004
  
  i must be lucky then.. thenraaja..:)
  
  
• From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 192.28.2.52) on: Mon Nov 1 21:02:22 EST 2004
  
  Thanks Sathyakka !
  
  Back in newtfmpage after 7/8 years and good to see oldtimers like you & Thenraja K!
  Sad abt the new(proposed) interface of newtfmpage though
  
  
• From: thenraja (@ 167.192.89.1) on: Tue Nov 2 07:50:18 EST 2004
  
  Sundar Ramanathan,
  Good to see you back.
  
  
• From: Evolution Vii (@ 165.21.154.8) on: Wed Nov 3 03:41:57 EST 2004
  
  Y no activity in the thread?? sathya enge poyiteenge???
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Wed Nov 3 04:53:35 EST 2004
  
  Can I join in please?
  
  Ulagam Sutrum Valiban was the most challenging work for MGR. When he filmed shots in Thailand, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore and Malaysia in 1970 he had limited time and finance. Therefore he was very thrifty, nay stingy in working out the budget. He was counting on financial assistance from close firends as well. Although MGR earned high, much of the income went for charity, and he had little in saving.
  
  He knew that the highlight of the movies would be the EXPO 1970 in Osaka as this film had no proper story line. But Japan had high standard of living and one of the costly areas in the world. So he had to make the tour of the countries within few days and limited cash. To be careful in spending he sent Idhayam Pesukirathu Manian to conduct a survey and make the necessary arrangements. Manian went early and made all the arrangemetns. However MGR was not to show up with his team. In Madras he had to struggle with many things, including Jayalalitha who was demanding a role in this mega movie with MGR's name and fame running highest.
  
  Finally he came down and stayed in a bungalow already booked by Manian. On the following day, MGR's car was denied entry into the packed Expo area. But the survey had to be done. MGR carrried the camera on his shoulder and walked tirelessly the entire length and breadth of the Expo area. this was to the amazement of youngsters who coudl not cope up with the aging, and yet energetic who was about 53 then.MGR was a genius. He spotted all the interesting and useful areas. On the following day the shot was made.
  
  The song Ulagam Azhagu kalaikalin Sigaram had 200 shots altogether. The editor was amazzed at the number of shots. Finally the song was reduced to just 4 minutes. This was the first tamil song to have contained the most number of shots. This song alone covered almost all the important exhibits at the EXPO, and turned out to be a kind of documentary in its own way.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Wed Nov 3 05:17:07 EST 2004
  
  MGR could not wait for a sunny day to shoot scenes. The songs Thanga Thoniyile, Nilavum Oru Pennagi, Lily malarukku Kondattam were taken with little lighting- on cloudy days. When the movie was finally sent to processing, the colour lab said the shots were of no quality. But situations forced MGR to finish and relase the movie. Why? MGR was removed from DMK in 1972, and he started ADMK. he had to make a stroming impact, and one of the well thought of ways was the release of this long awaited movie. the songs were already being played across the country- including Singapore, Malaysia and Sri lanka. In 1972 not many Indians could leave India, let alone people from Tamilnadu. So they wanted to see the world thru Ulagam Sutrum Valiban. So MGR had to finish the movie and release it to gain pilitical mielage as well. He wa carefully advised to re shoot. But time and budget was of essence. he could not do that. Instead he made more than 40 sets in Sathya studio and remade some scenes.
  
  1. The last scene of Lily malarukku -Pagoda was re made in Sathya Studio. (Where are Sathya Kabali and Keerthi?) The close up was done on the set. But within seconds distance shot is shown with poor lighting.
  
  2.Thanga Thoniyile was taken teh whole day. MGR was waiting for the mercy of the sun in hong Kong. but the day was cloudy. Look at the clouds in the song. therfore strong filters (blue ) had to be used to give a facelift. it was while waiting that they took the shot of the Cathay Pacific flying into Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong, and as the song ends one coudl also see a Chesna aircraft gliding over the Hong Kong mountains.
  
  3. Sirithu Vazha Vendum- there are scenes wher settings were made, and MGR comes with heavy make up.
  
  5. Nilavum Oru Pennagi- Closely observe the hills at the back of the sea. This is painting in Sathya studio.
  
  Poor MGR, he had chosen the wrong time and season for shooting. But intelligently managed.
  
  6. the song Pachai Kili was also shot fast. Metarunratta, the Siamese beauty falls down, but edited to hoodwink the viewers. She sings "Ponnin Niram Pillai Manam " and walks in the reverse and falls down, but was cut. Careful observation would reveal it.
  
  All odds were covered up. Only the experienced MGR could do it.
  
  MGR had the tendency of shooting any first shot with thaaikulam. The first song was Lily malarukku Kondattam, shot in Kashmir.
  
  When political pressure mounted, MGR took all the processed reels and passed on to teh editor. He viewed it and went cuckoo! the story was confusing, 2 MGRs and 3 heroines. Which MGR to macth with which heroine? What was the sequence of his travels to all the countries? All these confused. usually MGR used to eb around for editing. This time he had to go for politial meetings andentrusted the editor to do all the work. The editing came out with utter confusion, yet highly entertaining.
  
  
  
  Ulakam Sutrum Valibanodu payanam Vanthaval naan-was not included. Likewise, "Ninaikkumpothe Thankkul Sirikkum mmaathe" was also shot, but not included.
  
  
  
  
  
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• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Wed Nov 3 06:02:49 EST 2004
  
  
  Why was this movie released in hurry? Politics and nothing else. MGR's popularity was growing high. In 1971 there was a thought that Indira Gandhi will kill DMK. Somewhow DMK won ar too many seats and Congres was moved into oblivion. This threatened Indira gandhi and boosted the ego of Mu karunanithi. MGR went to Cashmir for shooting of Idhaya venai and phoned karunanithi and asked for a post as minister in his cabinet-as Trade Minister. Mu Ka told him the constitution did not allow for an actor to hold such a post while still acting. karunaithi asked MGR to leave acting. But that would kill MGR. Then MGr requested mu ka to speak to Annai Indira on the adjustment in the constitution. Mu ka refused and told him to come back and discuss at home. When he came back the conversation between them was not cordial.
  
  Meanwhile Mu ka had built up Mu ka Muthu in MGR style and made him start fans club Mu ka rasikar mandram. As the Mandram grew, Mu ka told him to abolish the Mandram on the grounds that party members acting infilms should not have such mandrams. MGr knew where karunainthi was arriving at. His club would be the next target. Apparently while in Kashmir,Indira had used Mohan Kumaramangalam to get MGr to release hic accounts of the expenses overseas when he went to shoot Ulakam Sutrum valiban. MGR could not provide the account. A compromise was made. MGR was to leave the party (break DMK). A pretext was worked out.MGR was to ask for accounts of the DMK misters who were corrupt then.
  
  In a DMK meeting inmadurai MGR asked those gathered "Congress is blaming DMK as a corrupt party. Do you all think so?" The people denied DMK as a corrupt party. MGR replied "Makkal Theerppe Magesn Theerppu"
  
  but the following month MGR, as treasurer of DMK asked all the ministers to give their accounts as there were accusations of DMK ministers piling up wealth. All refused. Mu Ka said the treasurer's duty is to give accounts, not ask for accounts. heated arguments pursued. MGR left the meeting. Navalar and MU KA met and decided to sack MGR. Then MU KA announced the sacking of MGR. Immediately after the announcement, Cho ramasamy phoned his very close friend Kannadasan and mentioned about this most shocking news. As Kannadsan put down the receiver. Mu Ka himself phoned Kannadasan and asked "YOW! Ethavathu Kevli Patteera?" Kannadasan said "AMMAMAIYA. IPPOTHAAN CHO PHONE PANNAAN" Mu KA's next question was "What do u think fo my decision?" to which the poet laurel said " Yow Avanudaya balathai Kuraithu Edi Podatheer! Kalattaa kattayam Varum" Mu Ka said "I know, but I shall manage"
  
  The dismissal of MGR was conveyed to MGR who was taking a break at the shooting of Amalraj pictures NETRU INRU NAALAI. AS MGR heard it he was so happy (plot worked well) andsupplied payasam sent to him to all the workers. "This is my Birthday" he said. he finshed Netru Indru Naalai with much political message.
  As his party was kick started, the MLA of Dindigul passed away and a by election was called for. "Thamby naan padichen Kanchiyile NEtru" in N I Naalai shows a flag of ADMK and a poster of K. Mayathevan standing for election in Dindikul under ADMK ticket. Then he worked on U SU Valiban's early release. the DMK was using the government machnery to block all efforts of ADMK in winning the votes of Dindigul. Madurai Muthu challenged MGR he woudl cut off his ears should the movie be released. They crossed each other and MGR and Muthu almost had a physial fight, if not for the presence of supportes form both side. (I was in Kaaraikkal in 1977 when Parlimentary elections took place. At a party rally Muthu was already campaigning for ADMK, and his ears were intact)
  
  But MGR took the challenge. he finished the movie. But Karunaithis was giving trobule in teh censorhip Board. MGR had to settle his income tax. Finally the movie was released in the midst of high tension. In Kanchipuram ( later) a procession was held. The film box was paraded along thousands of supporters and taken to the theatre. But before that the original film roll had already reached the theatre. the film bokx that came with the procession had only sand and stones inside. That much fear of oppoesion wa there)
  
  the ADMK party was only 6 months old when the by election took place. So MGR had ot either make it or break it-life and death problem.
  DMK did all the preliminary campaign and indications were there that DMK was prepared to win. But just 10 days before the by election, agains tradition, thsi movie's first release was in Dindigul. Peopel saw the movie at the box office and then went to the election box. MGR won. It was U SU valiban, among othre factors, that paved way for MGR to become the Chief Minster.
  
  Title song" Vetriyai naalai Sarithiram Sollum- Ippadai Thorkin Epadai Vellum?"
  
  So such was the impact of the movie.
  
  Want to know what happened in malaysia? In 1969 there were racial riots in malaysia following which all midnightshows wre banned. Midnigtt shows wre screened on Sturdays. Only famous adn firt time releases were screened this way. However the ban was lifted for Ulagam Sutrum valiban. What was the use? Tickets were already sold out 12 hours ahead. Many came and were disappointed. What used to be just one dollar ticket was sold for 30 dollars and yet tickets were not enough. the film started at mindnight. Hundreds were stranded outside the theatre with indescribable frustration and ANGER! the thatre owner purposely increased the volume. As someone waoked out o the theatre door to purchase some sweets, the door opened and sound of songs came drilling into the ears of those stranded. Tensionran high. IN the uncontrollable anger some threw stones at the theatre and broke the window panes. Police was called. The crowd dispersed. The theatre decided not to screen mndnigt movies. Malaysia too had die hard MGR fans. That was for Deepavali 1973.
  HAPPY DEEPAVALI TO ALL.
  
  
  
  
  

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