Topic started by Rajesh (@ 203.92.84.189) on Wed May 1 22:01:10 EDT 2002.
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- From: Bose (@ 61.11.47.51)
on: Thu May 9 12:34:17 EDT 2002
From Culture Vulture's Lagaan review
"Then there is the singing and dancing. Virtually every Bollywood
picture features musical sequences by convention, and Lagaan is no
exception, though it has fewer of these scenes than most Indian
productions. The movie makes them all count though. Unlike many Indian
films, the musical sections all advance the story instead of just
providing gratuitous interludes. And what joyous music it is, coming
from one of India’s great film composers, A.R. Rahman. After victories
for music direction with Rangeela, Dil Se, and Taal, Rahman won his
fourth Filmfare Award, the Indian version of the Oscar, for Lagaan."
- From: Bose (@ 61.11.47.51)
on: Thu May 9 12:35:14 EDT 2002
From Lagaan Review by Harvey S. Karten, Compuserve
"A.R. Rahman should have been in line for the Oscar for his stunning,
original music, which adds intensity to the fierce
conflict between the Europeans and the Asians"
- From: Bose (@ 61.11.47.51)
on: Thu May 9 12:36:18 EDT 2002
From Film Treat's Lagaan review
"Oh yeah, and those musical numbers... Anyone unfamiliar with the
integral role that music plays in Bollywood movies is definitely in for
a treat. The songs by A. R. Rahman are the sort of tunes that implant
on impact and leave you humming them for weeks. "
- From: Bose (@ 61.11.47.51)
on: Thu May 9 12:39:24 EDT 2002
FOR MORE SUCH REVIEWS OF LAGAAN, THE FILM THAT IS DOING INDIA PROUD ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH ITS FABULOUS MUSIC AND SUPERB CINEMATIC LANGUAGE, GO TO THE FOLLOWING LINK:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Lagaan-1111568/
- From: Bose (@ 61.11.47.51)
on: Thu May 9 12:41:26 EDT 2002
ONE MORE. FROM REVIEW BY VILLAGE VOICE
Lagaan's ultimate appeal, however, rests not in its safely antique anti-colonialist politics or Indi-industry star turns, but in its brilliantly composed song-and-dance sequences, the hallmarks of Bollywood's unique style. Elegantly produced and expressively performed, the six musical numbers crystallize key plot moments into minutely detailed wonders of dreamlike ecstasy. Once the music starts, it hits like a drug, and one wishes it would never end, from the gang's-all-here introductory strains of "Ghanan Ghanan" to the graceful, neo-traditional love song "Radha Kaise Na Jale" to the sweaty male fight song "Chale Chalo." Featuring vocals by playback legends Asha Bhosle and Lata Mangeshkar, the movie serves up samples of a musical cinema long forgotten in America. Confident and brash, Lagaan may be high-concept New Bollywood, but it plays like well-crafted Old Hollywood.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sat May 11 08:59:30 EDT 2002
Interesting Article:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/stories/2002051000850500.htm
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sat May 11 09:02:07 EDT 2002
Excerpt from above article:
"FILM SCORING is an art. And Hollywood is nearly in danger of forgetting that. Compilation scores — loosely strung together pop songs — are what make a soundtrack today. The original instrumental film score has taken a backseat.
....
Interestingly (and hopefully) Indian films are just making a start with original soundtracks: Sandeep Chowta's background score for Ram Gopal Varma's ``Satya." Our movies haven't — and will not — abandon the six songs formula but once in a way you see that one of the tracks is the theme: for instance, A. R. Rahman's memorable flute theme for Mani Ratnam's ``Bombay" and Ilayaraja's evocative score for ``Hey Ram." The background scores of Vanraj Bhatia. Satyajit Ray, of course, composed theme music for his own films."
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Sun May 12 04:29:37 EDT 2002
>>And Hollywood is nearly in danger of forgetting that. Compilation scores ? loosely strung together pop songs ? are what make a soundtrack today.<<
I didn't bother to check the article just for this stmt made by the author...
Ask that guy if he has ever listened to John williams ..forget his star wars and private ryans...has this fellow heard of an album called 7 years in tibet ?!?!.....John Williams and cello maestro yo-yo-ma join hands to give one of the best albums ever composed by JW..unfortunately it was never as successful as SW or Indiana jones series.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sun May 12 09:31:46 EDT 2002
"I didn't bother to check the article just for this stmt made by the author..."
Big Mistake. Here's another 'excerpt' to help you change ur mind.
"Sometimes I wonder if film scores, so lush and orchestral, are not the classical music of today? Not in their musical complexity, of course, but in melody and emotional intensity. Many of the composers actually were (and are) trained classical music composers and conductors: Max Stiener (``King Kong") Alex North (``A Streetcar Named Desire"), Georges Delerue (``Jules et Jim") Nina Rota (``The Godfather") Bernard Hermann (``Vertigo") Maurice Jarre (``Lawrence of Arabia") Jerry Goldsmith (``Chinatown") John Williams (``Star Wars") Michael Nyman (``The Piano"), Tan Din (``Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon") and Philip Glass (``Kundun"). Moody and subtle, film soundtracks also strike me as contemporary jazz suites: Dave Grusin for ``Falling in Love" and ``Three Days of the Condor" and Mike Figgis's for ``Leaving Las Vegas."
What would the shower scene in ``Psycho'' be without Bernard Hermann's jangling violins? The Pink Panther credits without Henry Mancini's jazzy theme. The running sequences in ``Chariots of Fire" without Vangelis's exhilarating background score? ``The opening of 2001: A Space Odyssey" without Richard Straus' Das spake Zarathustra? The James Bond titles without John Barry's dangerous, dashing score that has become a signature tune? The Sergio Leone-Clint Eastwood ``For a Few Dollars More" series without the Ennio Moriccone tunes? And the ``Mission Impossible" titles without Lalo Schifrin's score? Add your own favourite movie-music moments to the list and you'll see without the music, it isn't even the same movie anymore."
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Sun May 12 12:37:06 EDT 2002
Mr.vengayam...u may want to read the article...
- From: Zain (@ 64.231.155.218)
on: Sun May 12 19:36:58 EDT 2002
Mr.Vengayam.. hehe.. gosh.. that sounds so darned cute.. say, why did you call him an onion S ?
- From: curses (@ 203.199.248.71)
on: Sun May 12 23:02:41 EDT 2002
there is a vengayam in this DF!!
i mean a person w/ such a nickname!
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.133)
on: Mon May 13 10:29:31 EDT 2002
S & Vengayam were arguing about bgm in the importance of bgm thread. So S wants him to read tat article as it highlights the importance of bgm for a movie. But I dont see what Vengayam is going to learn from this article, bcos all Vengayam said was that the BGM shud fit the scenes and not stand out by itself, as its role is complementary. (he didnt say it in so many words, but tat's the gist of it i think).
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Tue May 14 10:22:13 EDT 2002
Bu take any score from John williams, they wud stand out and can be enjoyed thoroghly as individual pieces ! again quoting 7 yrs in tibet and AI.
- From: Indian (@ 202.9.186.237)
on: Wed May 15 00:57:44 EDT 2002
FROM YESTERDAY'S TIMES OF INDIA
It's Hollywood calling for A R Rehman
FILMFARE [ TUESDAY, MAY 14, 2002 11:05:52 PM ]
After some magnificent contribution to Indian cinema, A.R. Rehman has decided to lend his talents to foreign lands as well.
It is heard that he has got on his platter two international films, one of them being a Columbia Picture entertainer.
His fabulous scores in Andrew Lloyd Weber's Bombay Dreams earned him this opportunity.
Here's wishing the music composer the very best and hoping that he does become the first Indian to contribute to global music.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_ID=9897047
- From: sshhh! (@ 213.42.1.91)
on: Mon May 20 13:52:40 EDT 2002
I want to know what was the song in Tamil by A.R.Rahman. that was composed in hindi in the film pukar.'kismet se hum'.Plz write to me as soom as possible
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Mon May 20 15:16:21 EDT 2002
hmm....kallellAm mAnicka kallAgumA...atleast the pallavi part...:-)
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Mon May 20 15:16:56 EDT 2002
I am sorry....i thot u were asking about "sunta hai.."
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.118)
on: Mon May 20 21:36:27 EDT 2002
sshhh...
that was an original piece.
- From: ASHOKA (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Tue May 21 00:00:04 EDT 2002
I THINK THEY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OTHER HINDI OR TAMIL MOVIES SO THEY ARE PRAISING HIM. THEY WILL SURPRISED IF THEY HEAR OTHERS BGM TOO.
- From: ASHOKA (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Tue May 21 00:00:19 EDT 2002
I THINK THEY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OTHER HINDI OR TAMIL MOVIES SO THEY ARE PRAISING HIM. THEY WILL BE SURPRISED IF THEY HEAR OTHERS BGM TOO.
- From: ashoka (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Tue May 21 00:04:39 EDT 2002
Rahman to direct for Hollywood Films???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
- From: dhan (@ 171.72.5.75)
on: Wed May 22 12:35:36 EDT 2002
ssss...
that's BOMBAY's song, one of those two songs that was added in the movie...
- From: tester (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Thu May 23 01:22:01 EDT 2002
test
- From: vinod (@ )
on: Sun Jun 9 10:41:10 EDT 2002
a.r.rahman the god of music world
but some donkeys does nt know the smell of karpuram
- From: prasad (@ )
on: Tue Jul 9 14:38:43 EDT 2002
oh thats cool
its good to listen that rehmans will be composing for hollywood movie.all foreigners think no body can do what they do. rehmnan will show them whats the indian music and one day all these foreginers will be dancing on a.r rehmans tune. India will rock the world. definately
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.44.43)
on: Tue Jul 9 16:48:01 EDT 2002
I think Anu Mallik is much more recognizable figure after his song remix version of Chumma Chumma figured in Oscar nominated 'Moulin Rogue'.
His song 'Chunari Chunari' was used in Monsoon Wedding which is also a big hit. I guess western people seem to like original Hindi music. It is just the beat that counts. You won't believe me.
There were four 8-10 year old girls were dancing like hell for the song 'Male Male' when i played inside my car. Because they don't listen to music based on who scores it. They listen. Most of our Indian songs are foot tapping. But we don't care about BGM at all. Hollywood recognizes the importance of BGM very much. That's why movies like Mission Impossible, Godfather, Untouchables, Good,bad and Ugly, Mission, Dirty Dancing, Forrest Gump, Titanic, Artificial Intelligence, Harry potter, Lord of the Rings.... etc. For example the french movie 'Amelie' had an excellent BGM. 'A Beautiful Mind' opening theme music is heart breaking. What a wonderful score that is. It is time that Indian composers stop composing 6 irrelevant song sequences, start focussing on BGM.
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