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Can hariharan be considered an able successor of SPB ?

Topic started by vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on Wed Jun 10 19:08:42 EDT 1998.
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With hariharan getting to sing a song in almost every film including films done by IR there is a popular notion that he might be the next SPB.But my doubt is whether he would create the same impact that SPB had in the last twenty years, or would he fade away soon? also is he capable and versatile enough
of holding the top spot in TFM ?awaiting your opinions.

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Responses:

• From: mfm (@ 203.120.115.1) on: Thu Jun 11 03:12:05 EDT 1998
  
  Well, HH's voice is very good and it is quite true that he is No. 1 now. IMHO, I do not think anybody can be an able successor of SPB. Andha asalttu sirippu, bass voice... no way anybody can be so versatile. He such a prolific singer who can render any type of song
  
  1. carnatic based(sankarabaranam, Kaadhal Oviyam, Salangai Oli)
  2. fast-paced(like Rambambum - MMKrajan, Vaa Vaa Pakkam, Poo malai - Thangamagan),
  3. sad(Mandram vandha-M.Ragam)
  4. teasing(kindal)(Kandu pudichen - GuruShiyan), 5. soft-melody(Enna satham),
  6. affectionate - (Thazhambuve - Kai Kondukku Kai, Sister oriented song ?? - Vadhiyar Veettuppillai, Pachchamla Poovu - K.Vasal)
  7. seductive - (Neththu rathiri emma - S.K.Vallavan)
  etc., etc.,
  
  last but not least, who can sing for any actor's voice from perfect match for Kamal to Pandiyan, Pandiyarajan.
  
  I can not imagine any other singer rendering Ilayanila, Panivilum malarvan, Kootathile Kovilpura. ONE AND ONLY SPB. In addition, SPB & SJ duets can never be matched by any other combination. Variety in the voice and modulation of SPB will stand unmatched.
  
  Let me stop writing the puranam and hear more about HH from others. Whenever, I talk about IR, SPB, & SJ it is never ending and for this 'paamaran' they are like the 'TFM Music Trinity' for me :-)
  
  I welcome any correction in my opinion about SPB.
  
  
• From: Umachi (@ 202.54.43.173) on: Thu Jun 11 09:10:48 EDT 1998
  
  SPB is SPB.Hariharan is Hariharan.
  Aha ! Enna thatuvam!
  It'de futile to compare the talents of these two extremely gifted singers.SPB is the fore runner in what respect? And Hariharan can succeed him how ? If it's sheer number that we're talking, then there's little doubt who scores big. But as far as 'kural valam' goes, they're both on the same level. Bring out any emotion, they're each kings in their own respects.
  Moreover, I believe SPB is going to sing for as long as Hari will be. So where's the question of one following a trail left behind by another?
  
  
• From: Chandramouli (@ kcpxy4.att.com) on: Thu Jun 11 09:36:47 EDT 1998
  
  Guys,
  More than that we should say that though TFM fans were able to accept HariHaran's pronunciation in the right manner compared to the fate that SPB faced in HFM, I still feel its that certain section of crowd who may think Hariharan could click. No doubt that he is talented and has a good voice. The question of succeding SPB, in my opinion, is quite possible. Succession doent necessarily mean matching all skills equally. He might still succeed just because there no one else close to HH in competition. But if we really are trying to compare HH and SPB, then my vote is for SPB without any second thought. I have my own doubts whether HH would have the same longevity that SPB has had and is having.
  
  
• From: Ramesh (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Thu Jun 11 11:22:16 EDT 1998
  
  Dear DFrs,
  I have HH's album 'colonial cousins'. HH has extremely good voice and an excellent group. "krishna nee begane baru..." , "come back as jesus, comeback as allah.." If HH has been brought to playback singing , it is a bonus for TFM and HFM. SPB is extemely good as everyone knows. Nobody wants to come in others way. (srikanth please note). I hope this topic is not let to go loose and people start bashing one or the other.
  
  
• From: Parthasarathy (@ 163.122.6.222) on: Thu Jun 11 11:54:56 EDT 1998
  
  Hi guys,
  There is no doubt that SPB is the greatest, but it is an undeniable fact that he wudnt have reached this exalted place but for IR's throwing him up as the only option for the listeners. For one SPB, there were scores of Arunmozhis and Surendars thrown by the wayside. That way, whatever are ARR's follies, he atleast gives a chance for new voices(though it might be for the one point agenda of cornering all the credit for the song).
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 161.225.48.3) on: Thu Jun 11 14:10:29 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  Hi,
  
  Hariharan is not versatile like SPB
  Imagine HH singing " Singari Saraku "
  SPB has many variation in his voice..
  Shankara.......Classical
  Rum Bum Bum - Rock and roll
  Hey Athatha, - Tapun kuthu
  ilayaNila... - Light
  Ragangal 16 - Light Classical..
  Kamban AAmanthan - Kindal
  All these songs are different in their texture.
  You can probaly change the topic HariHaran a Replacement for KJY...
  
  HH songs are more branded HH type songs..
  Uyire in bombay
  Anbe Anbe in Jeans
  Enai thala ta varuvyo
  AVal varuvala
  all have simlar song texture...
  
  
  (I HAVE NO WORK IN MY OFFICE FOR PAST WEEK , I AM POSTING INTO ALL TOPICS)
  
  
  Srikanth
  
  
  
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• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Jun 11 14:34:53 EDT 1998
  
  One thing that hasn't been touched on so far is HH's pronunciation. SPB is right on the money here, whereas, HH sings like Sarath Babu speaks Tamizh. Full of MAZHALAI.
  Another issue and this is strictly IMHO because I haven't heard anybody else say this, HH sings in a monotone (no mood shifts for sad or happy songs), sleepy voice that seems to have some post-nasal drip in it. Certainly HH doesn't have the ganeer voice I prefer for Tamizh.
  
  I disagree that he can fill KJY 's place, I think that squarely belongs to Unni Krishnan. A sidebar--Srikanth, I have been way ahead of my part in a group project, hence my deep indulgence in TFM in the past few weeks. Let's enjoy this, however fleeting break, huh.
  
  
• From: Ramesh (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Thu Jun 11 15:12:28 EDT 1998
  
  Ippa dhan sonnen , thiruppi Soodu Pudhikude indha topic ! HH,I think you rather concentrate on your albums, ghazals etc. Otherwise your name is brought into this battlefield and they tear you apart (unga voice 'ganeer' nu irukkanumam. Ungalukku versatality pattthaliyam . Tamizh padara ellarukkume 'ganeer' voice irukkudha? ennai poruththa varai 'Sirgazhi' , TMS ivargalukku appuram , yarrukkume "GANEER' illai.)
  Idhallam solla vendam , gammmmmmmunu irundhen..., . Vendanpa vivagaram, Ellarume nalla paduvanga. Yaraiyum 'Kizhi'kadinga.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 161.225.48.3) on: Thu Jun 11 15:34:30 EDT 1998
  
  Hi
  Ramesh:
  
  No one new him when he was singing Ghazels his fame grew after he was introduced by AR in the song Tamiza Tamiza -----Even the HFM did not give him many chance to sing in movies (though his voice is much much better than Kumar sanu's grinded nasal sound (not voice)
  )
  He is a good singer but cannot match SPB
  
  Read udays comment once again.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Jun 11 15:36:38 EDT 1998
  
  Sorry, if I hurt your sensibilities, Ramesh. I'm not looking for muckraking. I too believe each should stand on his/her own. But the thread is here and the comparison has been put forth so I had to say my opinion and I did stress IMHO before my thoughts. Anyway, these are public figures and they are not exempt from public criticism. HH vaazhga valarga. In TFM, I just hope he shows mood modulation and works on better pronunciation, that is my wish as a TFM fan. If HH is a true artist, I don't believe he would wince at my opinions here.
  
  
• From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com) on: Thu Jun 11 15:41:09 EDT 1998
  
  Today the TFM-DF server is working overtime !
  
  
• From: Indian (@ proxy.qatar.net.qa) on: Thu Jun 11 16:00:39 EDT 1998
  
  Hariharan has created his own market in TFM more recently. But definitely he cannot replace SPB who is an allrounder in music field. He can sing classical, melodious, dappaankuttu, love, sad songs in his own style. Hariharan has moulded himself into classical based songs. Refer to any of his songs it is melodious, which itsel is a credit. No doubt only time will give the answer to this interesting logical topic. Hariharan is talented and got his own unique style but in no way he is comparable to the great singer of india.
  
  
• From: Ramesh (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Thu Jun 11 16:31:09 EDT 1998
  
  Hi srikanth,
  It is only TFM which did not know about HH before! He has been in music field for over 15 years. He got All-India Sur Singaar award way back in 1977. So HH is not famous only becuase of ARR introducing him in TFM. But.., I donot want to get into details.. I have to leave now and beat the traffic because some seminar going on in 'Hartford Civic Center'. Will talk to you guys after 20:00 EST.
  Bye
  
  
• From: Mano (@ eislib2.uwaterloo.ca) on: Thu Jun 11 16:59:39 EDT 1998
  
  Ramesh:
  Check out this page:
  www.music-from-india.com.
  In that site, there is a article about HH. He had to wait, a looooong time to get into TFM. Without the ARR, I doubt that HH won't exist in TFM. Thanks to ARR.
  
  SPB, when he visited to States, said that HH's voice is a gift to TFM. Yes, he is right. However, when comparing their singing abilities, no one can beat spb. He can sing for any situations, for example, sad, happiness, etc. IMO, HH does not change his style, song to song. Perhaps, it is better to say that HH has good voice. That's all.
  
  
• From: buddy (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Jun 12 03:20:08 EDT 1998
  
  I think there is no match for SPB yet.
  
  The modulations of SPB are unbeleivable.
  
  Hariharan has a loooong way ti go.
  
  
• From: Umachi (@ 202.54.43.163) on: Fri Jun 12 08:42:35 EDT 1998
  
  One interesting detail HH mentioned in one of his interviews...apparently, in the early '80s when HH approached IR with a demo tape, IR turned him down saying that he had a good voice but would never 'edubattu'fy in movies.
  what was remarkable was that HH mentioned this without the slightest hint of malice.
  did some 1 say it takes talent to recognise genius?
  
  
• From: Veera Akkoor (@ 1cust159.tnt2.det2.da.uu.net) on: Fri Jun 12 20:15:02 EDT 1998
  
  Recently I heard from my friend who is a musician met the great IR. It seems IR mentioned that he has recorded a song with HH singing that would be remembered till music lives in this earth. It took 14 hours to record the song. How is that?
  
  Thanks
  
  Veera
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Sat Jun 13 01:26:39 EDT 1998
  
  first of all thanx to everyone for coming up big on this topic.the reason why i started this topic is iam bugged by the fact that just because hariharan became popular after bombay every arbit MD has started making him sing atleast for a song in a film.the same is the case with unnikrishnan.both of them have started singing some really cheap songs with the likes of deva,sirpi etc.also unnikrishnan being a classical singer shows no sense of choice and to me he is 'making hay while the sun shines'.
  
  i agree with srikanth that hariharan never has the versatility of SPB and in all probablity should not be able to make it big in TFM nor be able to create the impact that SPB did.I also agree with some of the others in the fact that SPB got some many brilliant songs from IR which unfortunately hariharan is not getting.
  
  I also agree wih udhaya in that he has this peculiar 'azhugamoonji' type voice which coupled together with his pronunciation irritates me sometimes.In fact i did not like uyire uyire just because of this fact.I might be wrong but there was 'jeevan' missing from that song throughout.I frankly do not know how people like that song and keep asking for it in pepsi ungal choice in sunTV.
  also i seemed to notice that there is no strong carnatic base in that song (i might be wrong) nor a malody that should haunt you.
  
  the song irritates me.maybe the fault is due to ARR's lifeless tune.
  
  anyway iam of the opinion that hariharan is not getting to sing the type of songs that SPB got from IR in the early eighties and his voice is such that it makes u feel that he is not singing with any enthusiasm at all.he can never sing a song like 'rambambum' from MMKR .He can be at best a good competitor to unni if unni lasts at all in TFM.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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