Topic started by Vj (@ 61.11.81.241) on Tue Oct 8 00:53:16 EDT 2002.
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Lets list out the songs which are damn against Love.
Let me start with the latest "Unnai Ninaithu" .. a damn good, down-to-earth, very true song 'Pombalainga kaadhalathaan nambividaadhey'.. i really loved the lyrics.
Responses:
- From: sridhar (@ 61.1.205.218)
on: Tue Oct 8 01:33:26 EDT 2002
1.nambadhe nambadhe ponnungala nambadhe-moni.en mona...
2.ada ponnaanamanase poovana manase[and many other T.R songs.
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.66)
on: Tue Oct 8 02:15:08 EDT 2002
Kadhal kasakkudhayya from Aan paavam.
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.81.241)
on: Tue Oct 8 03:11:35 EDT 2002
"Pengalai nambaadhey kangaley pengalai nambaadhey" from an old movie, sung by TMS.
"Kangaley, kangaley, kaadhal seivadhai vittu vidungal" from Ramu or Vaazhkaippadagu (??!)
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Tue Oct 8 08:38:04 EDT 2002
Adhisaya ragam from Aboorva ragangal is an Aunty-love song with young Kamal singing at Srividya.
Aval oru menagai has the young Hariprasad singing this aunty-love song to Sripriya.
Vj
Pazhi theerthukitten!
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Tue Oct 8 09:58:15 EDT 2002
It is no wonder that all these songs are accusing females. What else one can expect from the male chauvinistic world?!
- From: umamahesh (@ 210.210.39.174)
on: Thu Oct 10 00:49:09 EDT 2002
Kaadhalennum jorulae kaasirukkum thimirulae pasangalathaan suthi vareenga from "TAMIZH" music :bharathwaj singer:harish raghavendran
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.79.242)
on: Thu Oct 10 01:09:00 EDT 2002
OISG .. :-))
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.79.242)
on: Thu Oct 10 01:10:54 EDT 2002
ec... in that case, can u list me any song that the female sings against males, and also against love? :-)
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Thu Oct 10 03:44:27 EDT 2002
Friends,
'AaRum adhu aazham illa! adhu sErum kadalum aazham illa! aazham idhu ayya! andha pombaLa manasu thaanyaa! ....kaNNukkuLLa konjam mayyi !uLLukkuLLa ellaam poyyi!'-IR- Vaidegi kaaththirunthaaL
- From: Vj (@ 203.199.251.218)
on: Thu Oct 10 04:08:54 EDT 2002
cinema virumbi.. that aint 'Vaidehi..' .. rather "Mudhal Vasandham".. anyways, good choice though.. :-)
"Arumbarumba charamthodutha" from "Chinnathaayee" had some lyrics which go
'Nanjai vida kodidhu aadavarin manadhu
annai idhai arindhaaL allalpatta piragu
yaemaandhaal thaayum.. adhaypola neeyum
aasai vaikkaadhey.. pinbu avadhipadaadhey'
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.139.195)
on: Thu Oct 10 05:43:30 EDT 2002
Vj,
here it is.. :)
"kaalgal engeyum pogalaam, kaadhal illaamal vaalalam.." from Oh Oh Megam song(Mouna Ragam)
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Thu Oct 10 06:35:34 EDT 2002
Ok, Vj let me write now. All these anti-love songs are nothing but love failure songs! So starting from old to the recent tf songs, the female love failure songs (those i remember offhand) are
1. pleading to her lover or God:
Examples:
ninaikka therindha maname...
pirikka therindha thalaiva unakku iNaikka theriyaadha
iNaya therindha thalaiva unakku ennai puriyaatha
pOgum vazhiyellaam kaatrE ...
kaiyai neetti kaadhal varam kEttEn
un kaigaL aLikkum parisu ithuthaana
2.Or she will be blaming herself or the fate
Examples:
nee illaadha ulagathilE...
pon vilangai virumbi naanE pootti koNdEnE
un eNNam therinthum naanE maatti koNdEnE
idhaya veeNai thoongumbOthu paada mudiyuma
kaalamenum nadhiyinilE kaadhal enum padagu vittEn
...oruvanukkE oruthiyendru ulagai vittE OduginREn
azhagu malaraada abinayangaL sooda...
vidiyaadha iravEthum kidayaathu endra
oor sonna vaarthaigaL poiyaandhE...
vERenna naan seitha paavam
kaadhalin deepam ondru yEtrinEnE en nenjil (female version by sulakshana in thambikku endha ooru)
kaadhalilE thOlvi utraaL kanni oruthi
maalai pozhuthin mayakkathilE naan kanavu kaNdEn thoZhi
inbam silanaaL thunbam silanaaL endravar yaar thoZhi
inbam kanavil thunbam ethiril kaaNbathum yEn thoZhi
- a kind of love failure song
aathOram thOppukkuLLe athaanai sandhikkaithaan aasai vachEn ...
athanayum poiyaachu raasa
nallathOr veeNai seidhEn...
aanandha neerOdayil aada ninaithEn naan
naankaNda Gothaavari kaanal variya...
naaLoru thoLilE maalayai maatrinaal
aaNkooda peN vaazhvatha
athaRkindha sanmaanama
"avamaanama"
-ultimate situation where the husband ditches a poor girl.
Now compare them with any of the anti(-female)love songs. All of them are blaming the girl as being stone hearted and what not... Is it not unfair?! Don't you think society is to be blamed for this discrimination which gives freedom to men to express all their feelings and puts some restriction to females due to which they conceals love failure?! Though these anti-female songs are funny, sometimes it is irritating to hear college guys singing them. Let them understand the reality and be practical instead of believing the superficial emotions of these anti-female songs.
- From: Aalavandhan (@ 210.186.51.120)
on: Thu Oct 10 07:07:51 EDT 2002
ec
All these songs do not just accuse the women.
Men are basically stupid when it comes to love. They will give up any thing for their love. Women are shrewd. Men have built Taj mahals; have any woman built anything such as these? Men have committed suicide because of love failure. Women generally do not.
Kanngale kanngale, kaathal seivathai vittu vidunggal
Penngale penngale, vaalibarai konjam vaazha vidunggal.
- From: Aalavandhan (@ 210.186.51.120)
on: Thu Oct 10 07:10:13 EDT 2002
Lest anyone thinks otherwise, the above comments were made in jest.
Wouldn't want to spoil any future chances. :)
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Thu Oct 10 07:53:48 EDT 2002
Friends,
The following songs from 'oru thalai raagam':
1.'en kathai mudiyum nEram ithu'
2.'naan oru raasiyillaa raajaa'
3.'kadavuL vaazhum kOyililE kaRpoora deepam'
4.'idhu kuzhandai paadum thaalaattu'
5.'rayil payaNaththin thuNaiyaay avaL vanthaaL' (is this the same as 1???)
Kaadhal Oviyam:
Sangeetha jaathi mullai kaaNavillai!
Selvam:
'avaLaa sonnaaL? irukkaathu! appadi ethuvum nadakkaathu! nadakkavum koodaathu! namba mudiyavillai! illai! illai !
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.76.130)
on: Thu Oct 10 08:29:19 EDT 2002
ec... let me clarify one thing... i hv nothing against women or u for that matter... we're just analyzing a category of songs... nothing more than that... i (or anyone in this thread) dont endorse the lyrics in those songs... i guess u didnt see my :-) smiley at the end of my post...and my love for that 'Unnai ninaithu' song was for the simple,funny lyrics.... (though i hv my personal experiences in luv)
BTW, your posting was good... pls continue some more songs...wd like to hear more from u :-)
and on the lighter vein, hey, u hv a name 'ec' (easy) but u take things tough? take it easy, ec...:-)
one more to the list..
"Ettadukku maaligayil yaetrivaitha en thalaivan vittuvittu chendraanadi" ... i dont remember the movie name though... and not sure whether its a love-failure or after-marriage song.
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.76.130)
on: Thu Oct 10 08:30:48 EDT 2002
"Kavalaipadaadhey sagodhara" from Kaadhal kottai... except for the last line in the charanams and the pallavi, it tells different types of so-called 'Love'
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Thu Oct 10 14:56:43 EDT 2002
Aalavandhaan and Vj, thanks :-)
Shall i include any love failure songs?! Then some more to the list:
enge enadhu kavidhai - KKKK
aaRum athu aazhamillai has a female version too!
poRandhaalum pombaLaya poRakka koodaathu (has a male version, or both form a single song?!)
nenje nenje from Rakshagan, first starts as an anti-love song.
en kaadhalE en kaadhalE (duet) - a good love failure song.
minnalE nee vandhathEnadi (may maadham)
yaarukkaaga ithu yaarukkaaga - vasandha maaLigai
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Thu Oct 10 15:08:09 EDT 2002
Aalavandhan, 'Tajmahal' was built by Shajahan, a king. If women were then allowed to reign a country then they would have built many 'Shajmahals' :-)
- From: sukkarotti (@ 68.113.36.96)
on: Fri Oct 11 00:57:32 EDT 2002
hmm does 'sakkarai nilavey' count as an anti-love one? he sure gets whiney about her not liking him back... and females do feel poopie like guys do, hmm i think whats her face.. the one who wrote the 'vaseegara' song should write a song about love failure and see what she gotta say..
oh and 'penney kaathal vali ennavendru' from PKS...
- From: Anti-Lover (@ 203.106.7.46)
on: Fri Oct 11 01:22:29 EDT 2002
yes, sakkkarai nilavey frm Youth definetly can b categerised as Anti-luv song. The lyrics condemm gals. All the gals out there should listen to this song. Especially second 'saranam'. The line
" Adi unakkum unakkum ellam piditha ennai en pidikkathendrai" will give a gal some realization.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Fri Oct 11 02:56:18 EDT 2002
ec,
I am not sure of the exact vintage but perhaps before Shahjahan, there have been queens like Chand Bibi and Razia Sultan!!!!!
- From: Manisegaran (@ 161.142.2.11)
on: Fri Oct 11 04:49:14 EDT 2002
Cine songs are only for situations.
IN FAVOUR OF THAAIKKULAM:
Kanadasan:
Ilamai Koluvirukkum
Inimai Suvai Irukkum
Iyatkai Manamirukkum Paruvathile
Pen Ilaamal Sugamillai Ulagathile
Anaithu Valarppavalum Thaayallavo
Anaippil Adanguvathum Avalallavo
Kavinyan paaduvathum
Kalinyan Naaduvathum
Ilainyan Theduvathum Pennallavo-Pen
Iyatkayin Seethaana Parisallavo?
Ponnum Porulum Vanthu Mozhi Sollumaa?
Yentha Poovaikkkum Malayidum Manam Varumaa
Indru Odivudum
Naalai Thedi Varum
Selvam Ninaithappadi Amuthiduma?
Entha Selvamum Penmayin Sugam Tharuma?
Kannadasan:
Pen Enraal Deiva Maaligai Thiranthukkollaatho?
Thedinen Vanthathu..(Ootty Varai Uravu)
AGAINST THAAIKKULAM
In Kalyanikku Kalyanam:
KOttum Paambudan Kudiyirunthene
Kothum Thelthanai Madiyil Vaithene
VEttum Kaikalai Anaithirunthene
Paruvam Paarthu Mayangivittene
Ithuvum VEndumadaa
Enakku Innamum Vendumadaa
In Vasantha Maaligai:
Ezhuthungal En Kallarayil- Aval
Irakkamillathaval Enru
Ppadungal En Kallarayil-Ivan
Paithiyakkaran Enru
Kankal Theettum Kathal Enbathu
Athu Kannil Neerai varavaippathu
Penkal Kattum Anbu Enbathu-Namai
Pithanaakki Alaiya Vaippathu.
So the songs have to be viewed and accepted in the light of situations.
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.80.34)
on: Fri Oct 11 04:57:53 EDT 2002
"Thooral ninnu pochu" had one evergreen "Yaenchoga kadha kaelu thaaikulamey".. to complaint against a woman, the hero asks other women to listen ..:-))
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