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"Energetic" songs in Carnatic style...

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.219.189.4) on Thu Oct 11 10:49:44 EDT 2001.
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        Well, for those who are wondering what I'm talking about, here's an explanation (or at least an attempt at one): I'm sure you all remember "Minsaara Poovae" from "Padaiyappa". It was a song in Carnatic style, a song that I really liked, but it was different in that the rhythm of the song was quite fast - You could feel the intense heat and the rivalry between the two characters - there is so much "energy" in the song.

        How many other songs are there in TFM? What's your opinion of this style? Can we have a list of such songs?

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Responses:

• From: kik (@ 207.0.105.239) on: Thu Oct 11 22:50:56 EDT 2001
  
  plenty of dance songs - marainthirundhe paarkkum marmam enna, mannavan vanthaanadi, sivakaami aada vanthaal etc.
  
  kangalum kavi paaduthe - adutha veettu penn
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Fri Oct 12 00:07:23 EDT 2001
  
  There are two such cathcy numbers i can rememeber right now from maestro's TIK TIK TIK. They are excellent!
  
  I believe there more from him from other movies.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186) on: Fri Oct 12 01:16:14 EDT 2001
  
  ambleen,
  
  I bet you are talking about 'Poo Malarnthida' song from TTT., One of my all time favourites, If you forget Jency's Konjuth thamizh, Its a wonderful song, very well tuned by IR, Good work by KJY and Vairamuthu also !
  
  Whats the other song ?
  
  
• From: Sreenivas (@ 131.124.100.124) on: Fri Oct 12 01:18:54 EDT 2001
  
  'vaa veliye ilam poonguyile' - paadu nilaave (subhapanthuvaraali)
  'sangeedham paada kelvi nyaanam' - idhu namba aalu (kalyani)
  
  
• From: e (@ 210.214.4.148) on: Fri Oct 12 01:33:50 EDT 2001
  
  `indRaikku Enindha AnandhamE' & `azhagu malarAda' from vaidEhi kathirundhAL...
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Oct 12 02:37:31 EDT 2001
  
  'azhaithaal varuvaale' from Jaadhi Malli. Very IR'ish composition from Maragathamani. Brilliant use of raagas Sriranjani and Sivaranjani to bring out a unique KB touch.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Fri Oct 12 03:25:53 EDT 2001
  
  Nagas,
  
  You are right abt the 'Poo Malarnthida' song. The other song that i was refering to is 'Ithu Oru Nila Kallam'. To be specific, it is the first musical interlude in this song. Excellent fusion of carnatic and western. Wish it was longer!!
  
  I believe if westerners or present day indians discover this bit, they will juz say "WOW!!" It will go down with them very well....and something that IR created 2 decades ago!
  
  Really Wow!
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 172.188.133.131) on: Fri Oct 12 07:28:50 EDT 2001
  
  here are a few ones-
  raaga deepam
  sangeetha jadhi mullai
  vedham(salangai oli)
  mogam ennum theeyil
  sangeedhame(koyil pura)
  
  
• From: Dinesh (@ 203.126.40.254) on: Fri Oct 12 23:54:35 EDT 2001
  
  How about Thoongatha Vizhigal rendu from Agni Nakshatram
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.201) on: Mon Oct 15 14:54:12 EDT 2001
  
  thaththiththOm in azhagan. wow!
  
  
• From: > (@ 152.163.195.207) on: Tue Oct 16 12:56:11 EDT 2001
  
  What about kannodu kaanbadhellam from jeans and Mettu podu Mettu podu from duet ?
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Tue Oct 16 14:30:53 EDT 2001
  
  we missed the all time best: mannavan vandhAnadi. no song comes within a mile of this in "very carnatic", as well as light to be a movie song. if we dig up GR, KVM and some MSV songs, we will find a LOT.
  
  
• From: Sreenivas (@ 131.124.100.124) on: Tue Oct 16 16:37:17 EDT 2001
  
  'yaaradi indha mohini' - movie?! would be another one.
  
  
• From: SV (@ 24.190.108.92) on: Tue Oct 16 17:47:13 EDT 2001
  
  one more to the list would be kanum kanum from vanjikottai vaaliban..
  
  
• From: kk (@ 172.143.148.234) on: Tue Oct 16 19:17:05 EDT 2001
  
  SV,
  is it a carnatic song?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Wed Oct 17 00:49:46 EDT 2001
  
  Mathavip pon mayilaal thohai virithaal - Iru Malarkal - TMS - MSV
  
  Kavithai Kellungkal Karuvil Pirandthathu - Punnakai Mannan - Vani Jayaram - IR
  
  Isai arasi ennalum naane - P.Suseela, S.Janaki, ???? - Thai Mookampikai - IR
  
  Naan Arivil Aathavam. Aam Nee Arivillathavan - ????,- Muperundtheviyar - Vani Jayaram - MSV
  
  Isai Kettal Puvi Asaindthaadum - TMS - Thavaputhalvan - MSV
  
  Poojaikaaha Vaazum Poovaich Chooraoyaadal - Deepan Chakaravarthy - Kathal Oviyam - IR
  
  Kellviyin Naayakane Undthan Kelvikku - Vani Jayaram, B.S.Sasirekha - Apporva Raagangkal - MSV
  
  Chonnal Inikuthu Sugamai Irukuthu Ponnai Manniyai Un mukam jolikuthu - Swamy Iyappa or Saranam Ayyapa - KJYesudas - Chandrabose
  
  Innum Neraiya Iruku. Thonnumpothu list podurean.
  
  
  
• From: Kitcha (@ 65.33.227.116) on: Wed Oct 17 01:35:53 EDT 2001
  
  Do these qualify?
  
  Asai Kiliyae ara kilo puliye - Thambikku endha ooru
  Maamanukku - Nettrikann
  Suga Raagamme - Kanni Raasi
  Vandhaal Mahalakshmiye - Uyarndha Ullam
  Keeravani - Paasa Paravaigal?
  
  
  Ambleen:
  I couldn't agree with you more about the interlude in "Idhu oru nila kaalam". That alaap(?) + guitars, esp. the bass + excellent drumming makes it one of the best examples of early "fusion" in Tamizh film music.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Oct 17 02:57:59 EDT 2001
  
  G Ragavan:
  
  (I am a Northie fan of VJ+PS+SJ)
  
  Shouldnt Ezhu Swarangalukkul qualify? And Mangala Kannagi?
  
  IMO "Kavithai kelungal" has a western touch. Its energetic, but I wonder if its really a Carnatic song.
  
  Then my favourite "mannavan vaanthanadi thozhi" by PS could be part of this list.
  
  BTW, VJ-SPB duets in Shankarabharanam (esp. "Brocheva.." and "dorakuna ...") are quite vigorous. Again VJs song "aanathi neeyara" from Sawthikianam (- telugu ) is one more such song.
  
  Moreover these songs by PS:
  2. Nalanthaana (thillana mohanambaal)
  3. marainthirunthu( thillana mohanambaal )
  
  
  I hope I havent messed up the spellings :-))
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Oct 17 03:01:19 EDT 2001
  
  IMHO - when it comes to vigour/strength/ and effortless rendition in that Ati-Tar saptak,(for any song - classical or not classical), I feel nobody can even touch Vani Jayaram's feet!
  
  
• From: avr (Ajit) (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Oct 17 03:41:59 EDT 2001
  
  Oops guys - I went through another thread with a few postings by singer AV Ramanan.
  
  I am NOT that person, I am a North Indian. My name is Ajit.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Wed Oct 17 06:25:59 EDT 2001
  
  VJ did calssical based songs better than anybody else. Even in hindi, Bole Re Papihara is more than sufficient to tell her name. All my north indian friends die for that song.
  
  Yezu Swarangkalukul and Mangkala Kannaki also quality.
  
  Vaazndthaal Unnodu Vaazndthirupean Enru Vanam Pukundthaal Seethai - Savithri - Vani Jayaram - MSV
  
  Aadal Kalaiye Devan Thandthathu - Sri Raghavendra - KJYesudas - IR
  
  Changkey Muzangku - Kalangkarai Villakam - Seerkazi & P.Suseela - MSV
  
  Oru Pon Maanai Naan Kaanath - Maithili Ennaik Kaathali - SPB - TRajendar
  
  The above are also good songs and fit in to the above mentioned categories..
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Oct 17 06:32:08 EDT 2001
  
  G Ragavan:
  
  "Bole re papihara" is a masterpiece, but I dont think its a VIGOROUS classical song. An example of a vigorous classical song is "saanware saanware" by Lata (another fav. of mine - esp. for Hindi songs) sung for Ravi Shankar.
  
  Anyway, this is a tamil df.....
  
  
  
• From: darul (@ 136.206.35.216) on: Wed Oct 17 07:07:21 EDT 2001
  
  Hey Guys!
  I happened to recollect a very very....apt song for this thread...:-)
  
  Kadhal Kasakudu Aiyaa...The Great IRs Song from Aaan Paavam!
  
  I hope this is very very engertic song...Can we get to here this in the net anywhere??
  
  
• From: SV (@ 24.190.108.92) on: Wed Oct 17 09:17:20 EDT 2001
  
  kk,
  
  kannum kannum is a energetic song i suppose! ..
  
  i remember few songs like aadal kaniro and chinnangiru kiliye kannamma sung my MLV if i'm right! and singaaravelane deva - a masterpiece from SJ.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Wed Oct 17 09:41:40 EDT 2001
  
  Yes. "Chingkara velane deva" by SJ and "Varuvaan Vadivelan" by VJ are also good examples.
  
  hi ajit, i heard from my friends. they used to say lot about that song. unfortunately I don't understand the lyrics. :-)
  
  
• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Wed Oct 17 10:28:48 EDT 2001
  
  SV,
  
  I agree.. but is it a carnatic song? I doubt.
  
  
• From: swara (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Wed Oct 17 13:48:02 EDT 2001
  
  I think no other singers can ever sing 'singara vela'. SJ was simply excellent. That is my all time favourite. What about the recent 'enge enadhu kavithai' from 'kandukonden kandukonden' - Chithra has sung it very well. And manam virumbhudhe from Harini.
  
  
• From: swara (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Wed Oct 17 14:05:03 EDT 2001
  
  And in the oldies, paattum naane and oru naal podhuma from thiruvilayadal - both TMS and BMK have done a wonderful job. Marudha malai maamuniye murugaiya - I don't remember the name of the movie, but the high pitch and the speed is really amazing in this song. Paarthen sirithen, mounathil vilayadum manasatchiye... oh, there are many!
  
  
• From: SV (@ 24.190.108.92) on: Wed Oct 17 14:14:29 EDT 2001
  
  kk,
  
  i'm not sure if it could be treated as carnatic but i feel it has the touch of carnatic songs that are meant for dance alone..for instance,thaaye yshodha,kuzhal oodhi manamellam etc... what do u say?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.96) on: Wed Oct 17 14:22:44 EDT 2001
  
  Many here are picking from the sixties and before..my picks from the eighties and later
  
  1. Nee ondru thaana - Uunnaal mudiyum Thambi - brisque from start to finish..
  
  2. Kalaivaaniye -Sindhu Bhairavi
  
  3. Sowkiyama - a very "energetic" song although not rendered very well IMO by Nnithyashree
  
  4. Maanida sevai dhrogama - Unnaal mudiyum thambi
  
  5. Isaiyarasi - Thaai mookambikai - this song tops all...a must listen for brisk carnatic song lovers..
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ 62.7.130.84) on: Wed Oct 17 16:47:06 EDT 2001
  
          Hi guys! I'm the Vijay who started this thread. We are compiling quite a long list here, aren't we? Thanks for your response, guys.
  
          What would you say of "Pon Maalai Pozhudhu" from "NizhalhaL"? It's not full of vigour, but it's got a strong rhythm. I'd say it's certainly got energy. Good work by IR.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Wed Oct 17 23:58:16 EDT 2001
  
  We missed songs from "Koil Pura"
  
  1. Vetham nee Iniya naatham nee - KJY - IR
  2. Amuthe Thamize Azakiya Moziye - PSuseela & Uma Ramanan - IR
  
  These are also very good songs.
  
  

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