Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.171)
on: Wed Dec 25 03:36:59 EST 2002
Thanks C V, for reminding me of Sorgathil Thirumanam. :-)
As I was driving to work this morning, the local radio in Dubai played 'Mannulagil indru devan irangi varugiraan'! I was overcome with joy!
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Dec 25 08:23:58 EST 2002
Ethu Unthan - MSV s Thilang forays after 1970 has been with VJ mostly...the other ones being "Malligai mullai" (Anbe aaruyire) and "Abinaya Sundari"(Mridanga Chakravarthy).MSV could not get VJ s voice out of his mind whenever he reaches for a Thilang Tune.
For the record his other Tilang raga ventures
1.Naalam Naalam Thirunaalam (Kadhalikka Neramillai)
2.Azhagan muruganidam (Panja Varna Kili)
3.Paalooti Valatha Kili(Gauravam)
4.Nallathor veenai seithey(Varumayin Niram Sigappu)
SG s "Muthu Muthu Therottam" from AaNi Ver follows the same style of "Ethu unthan veetu".
Shankar-Salim -Simon..VIG Vijayakumar played Rajini s pal in this ,KaLi,Mangudi Minor....In a matter of few years he became FATHER of Kodambakkam..and played Rajini s dad in Panakaran.
1000 Jenmangal..there was this rumour (could be true!) that Lata actually fell in love with Rajini (who played her brother) and MGR PROPERLY intervened and cut the affair short.Then the famous "Zarda beeda" episode happened.
Jumping the gun ..other JC-VJ-MSV combo
1.Kannanai ninaithal sonnathu balikkum (oops!Forgot this Sarath babu movie)
2.Mazhai kalamum paniakalamum(Savithri)
3.Naan Ramanai pol oru avatharam(aasaikku vayasillai)
Saravanan
On your words on "Ilangai oliparappu koota sthabanam-Tamizhsevai 2"-I think we were all fortunate to have listened to such a dedicated and professional radio channel.Never once a dull moment!The other day i switched on the Radio to look for some FM music immediately my son aged 5 says Radio vendam Borepa! CD ketkalampa illaata TV podungo!
I started "Andha kaluthala..."...Nostalgia hmmm.
thank the almighty for those days of inncoence and Ilankai vanoli."aayiram irunthum vasathigal irunthum"....
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.171)
on: Thu Dec 26 03:50:11 EST 2002
OISG- I too have heard that Rajini was the recipient of the famous 'Ramavaram' treatment as a result of Latha coming close to him!
Yes, Ceylon Radio of those days was really wonderful. Its a pity that radio has lost its relevance these days.
'Kannanai ninaithaal'is by KJY-VJ from Suprabatham.
- From: Siva (@ 61.11.79.86)
on: Thu Dec 26 04:39:45 EST 2002
Some of VJ songs in 1977.
1.Kaalamadi kaalam-Enakkoru...SPB&VJ MD VB
2.Sonnathai seiven-Engengo sila manigal....SPB&VJ
3.Naam Pirantha mun-Thaai paadum pattu....PS&VJ MDMSV
- From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50)
on: Thu Dec 26 13:13:27 EST 2002
OISG, "Naalam Naalam thirunaalam" is supposed to have been set in a rare raga called Rageswari. In a TV interview with GA sometime back, he said he was having this song in mind when he composed "devi sridevi" from Vaazhve Maayam. When asked what the scale was, he frankly admitted to being clueless :-)
"Thendraladhu Unnidathil" by JC from Andha 7 Naatkal has a similar start to that of Naalam Naalam song. Is it set in Rageswari too?
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.175)
on: Mon Dec 30 07:55:24 EST 2002
Friends, I read in Hindu that VJ was felicitated in the Swami Haridas Sangeet Samaroh, by the Viswa Kala Sangama, which is conducting a Hindustani Music Festival at Narada Gana Sabha Mini Hall in Chennai. Others to be felicitated were Ajoy Charaborthy and Balamuralikrishna.
Did anyone in Chennai attend?
- From: Kaumudi (@ 210.210.54.49)
on: Tue Dec 31 09:20:08 EST 2002
Friends
Recently TANA (Telugu association of north america), a very big, well recognized and highly active telugu association in the US, has completed 25 years of service to the telugu community in the US and they decided to celebrate the silver jubilee year in India, in Hyderabad on a grand scale. The big news of interest to us here is that they organized a few hours of "Sangeetha vibhavari" (musical night) of VJ here as part of the inaugural programme. It was held on the 22nd of December and was a huge success. VJ was introduced pretty pompously with big words and all that.
VJ, as expected, humbly accepted all the praise and started off with her famous Annamacharya keerthana "Indira naamamu" (AV, are you there?). For regulars in this page, you can identify this song from the VJ songs page in vanijayaram.com. OH, she sang that song more beautifully than ever. She improvised a whole lot compared to the rendition in the tape.
Anyway, she sang dozens of her famous numbers in telugu (including swathikiranam, sruthilayalu etc..) and enthralled the audience, which was very supportive. The size of the audience was atleast 2000. I, for my part, felt bad for not being able to attend the show. But there was complete coverage on the TV. As you might expect, I was stuck to the TV.
Thought I would share the information with you guys.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.211)
on: Wed Jan 1 06:25:03 EST 2003
Happy New Year to all VJ threaders!
Kaumudi,
From your posting, I couldn't make out whether the function was held in the US or in Hyderabad! Pl. clarify!
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.139.195)
on: Fri Jan 3 08:22:39 EST 2003
Saravanan, waiting for your continuation on VJ's career, 78 and beyond(in particular, recollections of Andaman Kaadhali and others like Orey Naal, Naane Naana of this timeframe).
- From: raghu (@ 61.11.76.14)
on: Sat Jan 4 15:16:00 EST 2003
raghu
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- From: Siva (@ 203.199.226.163)
on: Tue Jan 7 23:38:20 EST 2003
some unforgettable Duets of VJ &SPB
1.Indru Pol Endrum Vazhga-En yogajaathagam..........
2.Annan Oru Koyil-Naalupakkam vedarundu.......
3.Vasanthathil Or Naal-Vendum vendum...............
4. " -Pachavanna thottam...........
5.Mogana punnagai-Thalaivan thalaive mogana punnagai................
6.Engamma Sabatham-Anbu megame................
7.Raja Nee Vazhga-Netru punthalir..............................
8.Yaarukku Yaar Kaaval-Pondaatti nee.............
9.Lalithaa-Sorgathil..............
10.Naan Suttiya Malar-Chinnansiru.......
11.Sonthamadi Nee Enakku-Pennalle nee oru bommai.........
12.Kaalam Bathil Sollum-Kaatru vegamaa........
13 " -Maargazhiyil...........
14.Mangala Vaathiyaar-Raagathi kungumam.....
15. " -Then koottu pakkathil
16.Umai kanavu Kandaal-Ravikkai selai................
17.Nenjiladum Poo Ondru-Maruthamangakizhangu..............
18.Unnai Vidamaatten-Muththu rathina panthal.............
19.Ungal Viruppam-Enna magaraani..........
20. " -Adeyappa adeyappa............
21.Thiruppangal-Oraayiram thiruvaasagangal..............
22.Thudikkum Nenjam-Erandu kiligal.............
23.Vizhippu-Thangakudamedutthu......
24.Aththi Poothathu-Moovagai paalil....
25.Raathaiketra Kannan-Aadungal padungal......
26.Unakkaga Naan-Kaathal kathai.............
27.Kaalangalil Aval Vasantham-Muthan muthal.....
28.Vaadagai Veedu-Nee enthan raagam.....
29.Mazhalai Pattaalam-Gavuri mamogariye kanden......
30.Thennangeetru-Maanikka maamanimaalai....
31.Sathurangam-Mathanotchavam rathioduthan.............
32.Shankar Saleem Simon-Vanthale oru magaraasi....
33.Nool Veli-Veenai sirippu.............
34.Nizhal Nijamaagirathu-Elekkanam maarumo...........
35.Aadu Puli Aattam-Vaanukku thanthai evano............
36.Maalai Soodavaa-Pattu poochigal.............
37. " -Aasai oru manimuttham...........
38.Vandichakkaram-Devi vantha neram..........
39.Aayiram Muthangal-Selai kudaipidikka...........
40.Darling Darling Darling-Azhagiya vizhikalil......
41.Ninaithale Inikkum-Bharathi kannamma..........
42.Vadivangal-Ithayavaanil.........
43.Vaa Intha Pakkam-Eval devathai..............
44.Neeyaa-Ore jeevan.........
45.Ilamai oongaladugirathu-Ore naal unai naan..........
46.Engal Vaathiyaar-Samuthira raajakumaari................
47.Vandikkaaran Magan-Medaiyil aadudum......
48.Savunthariyame Varuga Varuga-Etho un kaathali.............
49.Raagabanthangal-Sarigamapathani..........
50.Azhage Unnai Aarathikkiren-Kurinji malaril vadiyum.......
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.175)
on: Wed Jan 8 02:37:48 EST 2003
-1978 –Part 2
We had commenced our 1978 Journal with some of the songs by the Vani-Visu collaboration, and we will continue this week to recollect some more songs that VJ sang for the Mellisai Mannar.
127. Medaiyil aadidum – Vandikkaaran Magan- SPB-MSV
MGR had become the Chief Minister of TN the previous year and the DMK party had received the worst drubbing in its history. Kalaignar wished to mould his son Muthu into a celluloid hero in the lines of MGR, but Muthu’s film career was short-lived, and by 1978, he was all but forgotten. It was in this juncture that Kalaignar joined hands with ‘Makkal Kalaignar’ Jaishankar to make ‘Vandikkaaran Magan’. The film was based on CN Annadurai’s story and had fiery dialogues by Kalaignar. The unexpected success of this film emboldened this partnership to try their luck again in the next year, but ‘Aadu Paambey’ sank without a trace. However, Jaishankar was projected as a hero with DMK leanings in a time when MGR was the monarch of all he surveyed in TN. It is quite another story that some years later Jaishankar denied this by stating that neither did anyone from DMK invite him to join the party, nor did he evince any interest in doing so!
Vandikkaran Magan had in its lead the hit pair of the 70s- Jaishankar and Jayachitra. How many films had these two acted together! Petite Jayachitra, with her mischief-filled eyes, was the perfect foil for the sober Jai and there was an undeniable chemistry on screen between them. However, by 1978 the magic had worn thin. Jai’s swashbuckling image was a distant memory and Jayachitra had bought the one-way ticket to ‘Gundoor’. 1978 marked the beginning of the end of the road for her. Her 100th film-Nayakkar Magal was released in 1982 after years in the making. She returned to do supporting roles in Lakshmi Vandhachu-1986 and Paruva Ragam-1987. Her performances in both Agninakshatiram-1988 and Puthu Puthu Arthangal-1989 won acclaim. But, not being satisfied with this, she produced Pudhiya Ragam-1991, with herself as the heroine, and her son-in-law of PPA-Rahman as her hero! The outraged public treated the film with the contempt it richly deserved.
Jayachitra made some negligible forays into politics by becoming a member of the Congress party.
Currently, she can be seen acting in ‘Alaigal’ serial in Sun TV (though she seems to have disappeared for a long time now!)
I have seen this song on TV long back. A pudgy Jaishankar and a pudgier Jayachitra dressed in royal costumes prance about singing-perhaps a dream song. Other songs in the film include ‘Paduththaal, purandaal, urakaamillai’-SPB & Ramola, ‘Oru pakkam neruppu’-LRE and ‘Nadagam nadakkuthu naatiley’-TMS.
SPB:Medaiyil aadidum melliya poonkraatrey-
nee aadaiyil aadinaal manmathan vilaiyaattey!
Menagai poloru punnagai pudhu paattey-
un meniyin saayalo ananda neerootrey!
VJ: Pazhukka pazhukka rasam pizhiya pizhiya pazham
ulloora kalloora thalladumo?
Kudikka kudikka manam midhakka midhakka dhinam
vandaattam kondaattam undaagumo?
Odai meenaada-
Odai neer vendum!
Uravinil naan aada-
Oruvan nee vendum!
SPB:Odiya odiya idai neliya neliya nadai
ullasa pallaakkin oorgolamo?
Nerunga nerunga mella odhunga odhunga enum
oodalgal yuvarani oyyaramo?
maalai idalaamo
manjam varalaamo
selai thodalaamo
kaigal padalaamo
VJ: Nazhuva nazhuva ennai thazhuva thazhuva varum
viththaigal kanna un vellottamo?
SPB:Mayakki mayakki pinbu maraithu maraithu vaithal
anbey un selvaakkin adayaalamo?
VJ: Kaathal vilayaada-
kaaval kidaiyaatho?
SPB:Kaaval thadaippottaal-
aaval meeraatho?
An exquisite duet from the Master. The swift charanams have long-winded lines with difficult words, but the singers are made of sterner stuff and effortlessly reach the finishing line in singular style. Can any of the present day singers mouth lines like ‘Pazhukka pazhukka rasam pizhiya pizhiya pazham uLLoora kaLLoora thaLLaadumo’ with the elegant clarity of VJ, and that too in that speed set by MSV?
The song was a big hit in its time.
128.Ilangaiyin ilangkuyil- Pilot Premnath-TMS-MSV
PP was an Indo-Sri Lankan joint venture and had Sivaji being paired with a Sri Lankan actress, Malini Fonseka. It was shot almost entirely in the lovely isle. Seeing the enchanting locales the country had to offer, there were a number of films in quick succession to be shot in Sri Lanka -Nangooram-1979. Othayadi Pathaiyiley-1980 and Mohana Punnagai-1981, for instance. Years later, Puthiya Mugam-1993 and now Kannathil Muththamittaal had scenes shot in Ilangai.
Others in the cast were Sridevi, Vijayakumar, Jaiganesh, Jayachitra, Satyapriya, Thengai Srinivasan and Manorama. It had AC Thirulogachander in the cockpit.
The story was a modified rehash of Sivaji’s Paar Magaley Paar-1963, which itself was the celluloid adaptation of UAA’s stage drama-‘Petraalthaan Pillaiya’. Pilot Premnath is a widower with 3 children-Vijayakumar, Jaiganesh and Sridevi. Accidentally, he comes to know that one of them is not his own child, and he loses his piece of mind. In the end the pieces of the puzzle fall in place and all is well.
The other songs include the catchy ‘Azhagi oruthi ilanee vikkira kozhumbu veethiyiley’-JC-LRE, the feet-tapping Ceylon baila ‘Coatu potta mudalilikku kolombulethaan kalyanam’-Ceylon Manohar-LRE (what a blast LRE has in this one!) and the appallingly loud ‘Who is the black sheep’-TMS.
This song features Sivaji with Malini Fonseka. ( I saw the film as a child, and remember being horrified at her gruesome death- the pumping stove bursts and she is enveloped by fatal flames- I was too scared to go inside the kitchen at home for days after watching the film!)
TMS:Ilangaiyin ilangkuyil ennodu isaippaadutho-
salangaiyin oli enum sangeetham nagai aanatho!
VJ: Naadenna mozhiyenna-
ullangal uravaada
Yedenna ezhuthenna
ennangal parimaara--
VJ: Endrum intha bhoomiyiley-
unakkaga naan pirappen
Nee thaan en thalaivan endraal-
nooru jenmam naan eduppen
TMS:Vilagaatha sondhamithu
palakkaala bandhamidhu
Inai serum noolizhaippol
inaindhen un noolidai mel
TMS:Anbu deivam Gowthamanin
arul koorum aalayangal
Valarum nam uravugalai
vaazhthugindra velaiyithu
VJ: Kathir vaanam ullavarai-
kanamthorum kaathal mazhai
Thamizh polum aayiram kaalam
thigattaadha mohana ragam--
An enthralling duet-one that will find place of pride among Sivaji’s best duets from the 70s.
TMS starts off with the sound of the kuil cooing in reply to his pallavi. (Contrast the hero of 1978 who likens his beloved’s laughter to the music of anklets, with the hero of 1996, who is reminded of the telephone ringing when he hears his sweetheart laugh!)
Hark at VJ’s ‘Endrum indha bhoomiyiley unakkaga naan pirappen, nee thaan en thalaivan endraal nooru jenmam naan eduppen’- soulful is the word that comes closest to describing the amazing grace in her song. TMS sounds as majestic as ever. The song was / is immensely popular. I remember that it went to the first position in the ‘Isai selvam’ programme of Radio Ceylon the very next week after it was introduced, and there it stayed for months.
Thamizh polum aayiram kaalam thigattaadha mohana ragam –
129.Azhagiya kiligalin oorvalam- General Chakravarthi- LRE-MSV
General Chakravarthi was directed by old-timer D Yoganand and starred Sivaji Ganesan, KR Vijaya, Kavitha and others. I remember seeing it in Shanthi Theatre, Madras on its 100th Day (I remember it particularly well, as all children who went that day got a cool pencil as a compliment, and I showed it off proudly in class the next day—I was in 3rd std. then!).
I have also seen it subsequently on TV and remember the story as this: Sivaji (General C) and his wife Doctor Bharathi (KRV) have a daughter, Kavitha who is the apple of their eye. Kavitha falls for a handsome cricketer (Chattakaari Mohan?), and inadvertently becomes pregnant. Luckily, the strict General is away when KRV makes this shocking discovery.
What does she do? Hold your breath- she pretends that the child is her own!!!! Sivaji returns and is told that he has fathered a child at this age! He takes it with a pinch of salt and the events that follow confirm his suspicion- I think he sees Kavitha feeding the baby- the truth is revealed, Mohan and Kavitha tie the knot and its time for ‘Subham’- wait – KRV discovers that she is really pregnant!!
Other songs include the TMS-PS duet ‘Hello my dear doctor! What is the matter?’ and the TMS solo ‘Nee enna Kannanaa, naan enna Kamsanaa?’
This song, in all probability featured Kavitha and friends having fun, teasing some men-
VJ: Azhagiya kiligalin oorvalam-
avasarappattaal nadakkathu
Adikkadi neengal aadi asaindhaal
azhagukku vaattam irukkathu!
LRE:Aalai annaipathil sooraradi-
adhil aasai ivarukku adhigamadi
Kamanai pazhikkum Bheemanadi
naan kaniyaaga pirakkavillaiyadi
VJ: Aiyah oruvagai minoradi-
ivar aathiram paduvathil majoradi!
Kaiyum kaalum thudikkudhadi
ivarkku kalyanam aagalai theriyudhadi
LRE:Kaathalai thedi povaaro-
Illai kappalai pidikka povaaro?!
Paavam avarukku padharudhadi,
pakkuvamaaga vazhividadi!
LRE:Poga ninaippathu poithaandi-
ithu ponnula mayangura kaithaandi!
VJ: Aadai thiruppura kadhaithaandi
ivar horn adippathu adhuthaandi!
I admit that there is nothing outstanding about this song, except that it has two favourite singers of MSV coming together for the first time. LRE (Lurdhumary Rajeswari) was a very talented singer and was the other female voice in most films of the 60s. Her voice had lost much of its sweetness by 1978, yet there was still a hint of the old charm. MSV staunchly stood by his protégé even till the mid 80s, after which he himself found few takers.
130.Eththanai malargal- Oru Nadigai Naadagam Paarkiraal- TMS-MSV
Oru Nadigai Naadagam Paarkiraal was second in the trilogy of the Bhimsingh-Jayakanthan collaborations. The first one was ‘Sila Nerangalil Sila Mnaithargal’ –1977 and the third in the trail-blazing series was ‘Karunai Ullam’-1978.
We had discussed JK and his works extensively while dwelling on ‘Veru idam thedi povaalo’, and so let us proceed directly to talk about ONNP. I saw this film on TV in 1990, when I was in college, and was lost in wonder- For days afterwards, I used to go on and on about it to my friends! Sad to say, none of them seemed to share my enthusiasm L
This film too, like SNSM, had Lakshmi and Srikanth in the lead. As the name suggests, it tells the tale of a stage actress, Kalyani, so wonderfully portrayed by Lakshmi. Srikanth plays Ranga, a journalist (or perhaps a writer), who is attracted to her. Here’s what I recollect of the story: They get into an easy, intimate relationship, with no questions asked. Presently Ranga wants to formalise their relationship, Kalyani agrees, and they get married. Kalyani continues to devote time to her career, and Ranga gradually finds himself disenchanted, his expectations of a traditional submissive wife are frustrated. Kalyani, with remarkable sagacity, understands his feelings, and gently endeavours to put things right- but the chasm gradually widens-and Ranga proposes a divorce. Kalyani is greatly saddened, but agrees, telling him calmly that she had not forced him to marry her, and now she was not forcing him to divorce her either. (Nagesh plays a memorable cameo as the ‘divorce’ lawyer). In this juncture, Kalyani wakes up one morning to find her legs paralysed. Ranga doesn’t have the heart to divorce her in this state (though Nagesh cheerfully tells him that now he has a valid cause for seeking divorce). In nursing Kalyani, Ranga gains a few insights into what love really signifies, the understanding, compassion and give and take, all which go a long way in nurturing a relationship---the film ends in this healthy note.
Lakshmi effortlessly stole the show, with her natural and heart-warming performance, with Srikanth too, enacting a complex character, with unexpected maturity.
The film had only two songs, both written by JK himself. The other song is the climax ‘Nadigai paarkkum nadagam, ithil resigarellaam paathiram’- Jolly Abraham & BSS. Both are asareeri songs, a style that Mahendran and Balumahendra would later adopt to stunning effect.
Both:Eththanai malargal, eththanai nirangal--
Eththanai manangal- thirumanangal!
Aththanai malarum uthirvathillai
Andha anbenum eeram ularvathillai
Niththamum pudhu manangal
Ingu nerndhidum thirumanangal--
TMS:Muththinai pol paniththuli irukkum
muththirukkum thottaal mullirukkum
VJ: Budhdhanai poloru budhdhiyiley
silar pookalai marandhaar bhoomiyiley-
intha pookalai maranthaar bhoomiyiley
TMS:Neeyum naanum yaaro yevaro
nizhalaai uruvaai thunaiyaanom
VJ: Thaayum thandhaiyum illaadha
oru thanimaiyil kalandhu uravaanom
TMS:Malarinum mellidhu mellidhu sila manangal
VJ: Mayangiyum kuzhambiyum theliyum sila gunangal-nalla gunangal
TMS:Uravinil ezhum inba naatham-kaathal geetham
VJ: Olikkum maniyellaam uyarndha vedham
Udhirum malargal nallaasigal odhum—
Awesome lyrics by the writer nonpareil, and sung with understanding by TMS and VJ. MSV gives an auspiciously apt Nagaswarm-gettimelam backdrop to the song. The song captures, in poetic lines, the essence of the film itself. You are left wondering anew at that genius called JK---
- Aduththa vaaram meendum ‘78in ninaivugal malarum--
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Jan 8 03:58:37 EST 2003
Have i missed?
Medayil is a duet for Jai with Rojaramani and not JC.To get Jai they will have toss JC would win it first.Once she leaves the scene "Ilavu kaatha Kili" Rojaramani would toss it again ,this time to her favour.Immediately Kanavu ..then medayi adidum.
In the movie JC and RR share "Ore Tahanthai" Asokan aptly named "Aalavanthan".Manorama played Roajaramani s mother doublin up as the Family doctor .
JC-Jai song was "PaduthaL,PurandaL".
Saravanan,i think i got you this time.NeduNaaL aasai.
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