Topic started by Indrajith (@ 203.145.157.94) on Wed Aug 4 07:51:46 EDT 2004.
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Tale of music in South Indian Cinemas!!
After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.
Music has been part of rather the way of life of Indians particularly south indians.
We have been indulged much into music where we found solace for all the sorrow
and for all it gave us the happiness we needed. Our culture and music were interlinked
so much that we dont do anything under the sky without music, from ploughing to
parades , love to war and life to death.
I trust nowdays we have moved much towards the westernization of our life and
music. Could not make it a point that, The westenized living led to westernized music
or vice versa. Now people who give and listen to "this" sort of music claim that
change is the only thing that can never change and the music has evolved and
no one can stop doing this.
Indian Music is always related to god, war and love. The True Music should invoke the
GOD inside you not the ANIMAL. Not many will accept that the music these days is
more for the ANIMAL side than GOD.
This is the point of time where we stand and decide to look back of what has happened
all these years and eras. How the music evolved form the life of people to the entertainment
cadre. Music has not been treated as an entertainment tool in the first place. It was
part and parcel of life. Then slowly moved over to the entertainment section.
This is an effort to cover how music has been through ages and how the transformation
from Dramas and Kutcheries to the place where we stand today.
You can also put in your thoughts regarding the song structures, musical inclination of people,
music instruments used , Various forms of music and how it made it big in the movies.
Hope many will accept that we have been made consumers of "What the boss gives!!".
Music directors over the ages have been short of the Magic and started borrowing from
western music and even Black music and started pounding it on us and now
we have to search of words and melody ( ofcourse some can say that there are many, I claim
there are not as many as we would have liked it to be )
This is a journey through the path of music from few centuries ago and to this **** century. From "Vayal Varappugal" to Silver screen and Discs and Pocket jams.
We shall start from the "Sanga Kalam " or even before that to the day ..
Here we are trying to look down the path we/our music have/has travelled all the way through.
You are welcome to put in your views...
This is not an arena for any fight outs or show downs.
Please make this thread a place for healthy debate and information sharing.
Please put in your views regardging Music, Lifestyle & Music, Any South indian Language /music shall be discussed.
Looking forward for your responses.
Responses:
- From: purv (@ 205.231.29.164)
on: Thu Aug 5 13:24:05 EDT 2004
"Could not make it a point that, The westenized living led to westernized music
or vice versa. Now people who give and listen to "this" sort of music claim that
change is the only thing that can never change and the music has evolved and
no one can stop doing this.
Indian Music is always related to god, war and love. The True Music should invoke the
GOD inside you not the ANIMAL. Not many will accept that the music these days is
more for the ANIMAL side than GOD."
In other words, Westernized music brings out ANIMALISTIC qualities in men. True, especially the modern techno, rap and heavy metal music, (which I despise) which so many youths in America are going nuts over. But music that brings out ANIMAL in man is music born of the mode of IGNORANCE. As a rule, music in the mode of ignorance will make those in the modes of goodness and passion sick.
"We have been made consumers of "What the boss gives!!".
Music directors over the ages have been short of the Magic and started borrowing from
western music and even Black music and started pounding it on us and now
we have to search of words and melody ( ofcourse some can say that there are many, I claim
there are not as many as we would have liked it to be )"
Oh yes. This is very [sadly] true. Since most people are animalistic, they savor animalistic music.
Assuredly, it will take more than one man to change the situation. I will try to do my part, and hope that others will pitch in.
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.143)
on: Thu Aug 5 14:31:23 EDT 2004
aaachoom.....sorry i'm allergic to B**LS**T
- From: Chumma (@ 144.42.9.100)
on: Thu Aug 5 14:56:27 EDT 2004
Romba periya topicaa irukku. Fulla padichittu rendu naalil badhil poadaren..!
- From: Nisha (@ 66.185.84.78)
on: Thu Aug 5 16:57:44 EDT 2004
Wow, did this person write this up themselves?
Alrighty i'm with Paran on this one! haha
- From: Dandanaka (@ 12.45.158.206)
on: Thu Aug 5 17:59:06 EDT 2004
the only reply i can think of is "Kadavul Paadhi Mirugam Paadhi, Kalandhu seidha Kalavai Naan"
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Thu Aug 5 19:53:41 EDT 2004
Tale nalla illa
- From: purv (@ 205.231.30.110)
on: Thu Aug 5 20:08:17 EDT 2004
Looks like I got a little too judgmental in my first posting. Maybe I should never have replied to this thread... :-(
- From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78)
on: Fri Aug 6 01:31:42 EDT 2004
oruthar serious ah pesumbothu serious ah reply pannanum............i stand by whatever indrajith and purv told.......
there are plenty of stupid threads to mock at...why shud we mock at this one.......... you too C~P and paran???????
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.143)
on: Fri Aug 6 03:44:46 EDT 2004
rs...ade pongappa...
ivvalo neeeelamma post pannina..yaare padika pora....
:)
- From: Cinefan (@ 203.101.52.65)
on: Fri Aug 6 06:50:55 EDT 2004
I am with Paran on this,looking at the length i did not feel like reading the post.Sorry Indrajith but please keep it short&sweet.Bye.
- From: hehehewalrus (@ 130.127.105.170)
on: Fri Aug 6 09:28:18 EDT 2004
gosh!!!! what a load of sick people heaping scorn coz their minds are too small to take in whats written! This forum is reaching the pits or is it just my feelings?
- From: purv (@ 205.231.148.72)
on: Fri Aug 6 21:12:36 EDT 2004
Well Hehehewalrus, here's a possible explanation: the 'sick' people you mention don't like to work even their minds. That in and of itself is definite proof of sickness, cause it's when you're sick to your stomach you don't feel like eating, so similarly people's minds are sick, and they don't feel like thinking.
OTOH, some are really attached to animalistic or primitive music, and who wants to be criticized for what he likes?? Even the wild pig that eats others' stool does not like to hear that he is eating stool. That is the way of it, that is their disease.
- From: Indrajith (@ 203.145.157.94)
on: Wed Aug 11 08:58:15 EDT 2004
Taking things as it comes. But still going to continue. I am sorry dudes.
- From: k (@ 165.140.4.22)
on: Wed Aug 11 09:31:17 EDT 2004
Music should be be Godly - not animalistic ----Says Who?
Grouping some music as Godly and others as animalistic is just an expression of ignorance.
According to our Hindu philosophy, everything in this universe is an expression of God including what is termed here as animalistic music.
The temptation to decry music that doesnt suit one's individual taste as animalistic, to me shows one's stubborness to accept diversity (which is various expressions of God)
- From: walrus (@ 130.127.104.174)
on: Wed Aug 11 10:44:08 EDT 2004
k,
music that drives people to drugs or operates under such an atmosphere is definitely not an expression of God
- From: pANdiyan (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Wed Aug 11 12:05:49 EDT 2004
digression:
k,
"According to our Hindu philosophy, everything in this universe is an expression of God"
Does this `everything' include the godhra train incident? And also the subsequent backlash? And the current state of the families of all those killed?
If so, expression of `which' God?
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Thu Aug 12 05:51:25 EDT 2004
Yes it too is the expression of God...
What can god do when Human beings roam irresponsiblly and spoil the world..Some time..like natural calamity such things also happen and it has been happing since time immemorial....
Civilization is created/ended as a result of this...I am not justifying violence but if you look deeply there would be some reason as to why things happen in this world....
Its as equalent as why should you kill a harmless ant while walking of disjurb an pond where musquitoes lay egg and breed..For you its prevention from deseases...but for the mosquitoes...its a question of life...Always in this world only the fittest live...Be fit...or else your photo will be fitted on to your romm's wall.
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Thu Aug 12 05:51:46 EDT 2004
Yes it too is the expression of God...
What can god do when Human beings roam irresponsiblly and spoil the world..Some time..like natural calamity such things also happen and it has been happing since time immemorial....
Civilization is created/ended as a result of this...I am not justifying violence but if you look deeply there would be some reason as to why things happen in this world....
Its as equalent as why should you kill a harmless ant while walking of disjurb an pond where musquitoes lay egg and breed..For you its prevention from deseases...but for the mosquitoes...its a question of life...Always in this world only the fittest live...Be fit...or else your photo will be fitted on to your rome's wall.
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Thu Aug 12 05:52:19 EDT 2004
Yes it too is the expression of God...
What can god do when Human beings roam irresponsiblly and spoil the world..Some time..like natural calamity such things also happen and it has been happing since time immemorial....
Civilization is created/ended as a result of this...I am not justifying violence but if you look deeply there would be some reason as to why things happen in this world....
Its as equalent as why should you kill a harmless ant while walking of disjurb an pond where musquitoes lay egg and breed..For you its prevention from deseases...but for the mosquitoes...its a question of life...Always in this world only the fittest live...Be fit...or else your photo will be fitted on to your room's wall.
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