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newtfmpage's Pick of the week

Topic started by Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on Fri Nov 19 19:49:35 EST 2004.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Often we listen to songs that we feel deserves more appreciation or we discover songs that somehow escaped the attention of listeners or were masked by other popular songs from the same movie.The joy of sharing such discoveries with others could be boundless.
This thread is going to do exactly that.
Songs we host could be really rare or not so rare. We are not limiting to just hosting them.
Many of the songs will be analyzed in detail by carnatic vocalist Mrs Charumathi M.
We are going to start with one song a week. We will try our best to upload the songs in newtfmpage but in rare occassions we might just give you the song link.
Finally, if you feel you have a song that you want to share it with rest of us or if you want us to load a particular song, please let us know and we will try our maximum best to meet your request.

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• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Fri Nov 19 19:50:09 EST 2004
  
  I’m starting this thread with ‘kaathirundhen kaNavaa’ a sweet solo by Sjanaki from 'Dharmapathini'.
  http://newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://newtfmpage.com/songs/kaath.rm
  
  The song should be for jeevitha (can someone confirm this). Lyrics has lot of VM’s touch but not sure if he is the lyricist. Music is by IR.
  This is what Mrs charumathi has to say about this song
  kaathirundhen kaNavaa paadal muzhudhum sriranjani raagathin adipadaiyaaga
  amaindhuLLadhu.
  panjama varjamaana ('pa' vilakkapatta swaram) sriranjani raagam, 22 vadhu meLamaana karaharapriyaavin janyam enbadhu kuripadavendiyadhu.
  ThaaLathai eduthukondaal-aadhi thaaLathil amaindha ippaadal, pallavi 1/2 idamaaga amainthuLLathu. BGM in munpaguthi 1/2 idamaagavum, pin paguthi samamaagavum amainthuLLathu ingu kuRipida vEndiyathu. BGM il sirapaaga vaathiyangaLai kaiyaaNduLathum, inimaiyaana sri ranjaniyil swara kOrvaikaLai amaithuLLathum, iLaiyaraajavin isaiyamaipin sirapamsamaagum.
  paadalin idaiyil varum isaiyum paadal varigaLum, adhai miga inimaiyaaga
  paadiyuLLa janakiyin kuralum, indha paatukku innum sirappu serkindrana.
  
  
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 68.38.84.14) on: Fri Nov 19 20:08:39 EST 2004
  
  Ramki
  
  Welcome back with a bang! Where were u all along?
  
  Great topic.. Kindly publish Mrs Charumathi's comments in English! SOmetimes very difficult to follow up if written in TAmil. Also can u load in Mp3 format instead of RM format if possible...
  
  Thanks once again
  Bala
  
  
• From: T (@ 70.20.194.213) on: Fri Nov 19 20:26:03 EST 2004
  
  Nice thread Ramki...
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Fri Nov 19 21:15:51 EST 2004
  
  Thanks Bala and T.
  
  Bala i have been around..was not participating as much as i did before.
  
  I will try to translate Mrs chaarumathis piece in english. Due to space constraints, it would not be possible to load mp3 versions.
  
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 68.38.80.142) on: Fri Nov 19 21:44:13 EST 2004
  
  Ramki
  
  The songs sounds a lot like 'Pagalile oru nilavinai kanden' by SJ. Is that also Sriranjini raagam?
  
  Eagerly waiting for the translations...
  
  Bala
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.8.179) on: Fri Nov 19 22:24:54 EST 2004
  
  Bala ,
  
  I agree with you !!!! SOmetimes i find it a big headache !!
  
  Ramki ,i suggest we can azhagi Tamil Transliterator editor for this !!!!!!! I pasted the tamizh text and WOW!!! it is very good ...
  
  www.azhagi.com and it is just Rs.500 for the basic version !! The font is freely downloadable of course !!!!
  
  Also in this kind of web page ,it will be great of we have tamil text in Tamizh font !!!!!!
  
  
• From: RR (@ 137.132.3.6) on: Fri Nov 19 22:36:42 EST 2004
  
  Bala:
  
  > Where were u all along?
  
  Ramki,Ravi & I are all 'accused' of this. But we were/are around (on & off in short intervals though) but not posting much as before. (actually this is not true of Ramki, he has been active in permanent topics all the time. If you don't know this, then you are not DF-ing enough :) Personal side is there, you know. But be rest assured this site is not run by just 1 person, we all have been playing roles ALL THE TIME (check out the 'Team' section) to keep it running uninterrupted. There are lots of things-to-do at the backend besides moderating the forum. OK, enough of digression. Drop me a mail if you wanna know more.
  
  
  Great topic.. Kindly publish Mrs Charumathi's comments in English! SOmetimes very difficult to follow up if written in TAmil. Also can u load in Mp3 format instead of RM format if possible...
  
  
  
• From: RR (@ 137.132.3.6) on: Fri Nov 19 22:38:04 EST 2004
  
  oops.. I wanted add this: .mp3 is copyright violations, so only .ra will be posted.
  
  
• From: RR (@ 218.186.190.8) on: Sat Nov 20 04:57:04 EST 2004
  
  A rough translation is:
  
  This song is set fully based on sriranjani raagam. Sriranjani is a 'panjama varja' (i.e. no 'Pa') raagam. It can be
  noted that it's a janyam of the 22nd melakarta Karaharapriya. As for thaalam, it's set in Adi thaalam.
  In the BGM, interestingly the first part is set in '1/2 idam' but the later part is in 'samam'. Excellent arrangement of instruments in the BGM and the sweet sriranjani swara 'kOrvai'-s reflect Ilayaraja's special touch.
  The song interludes, lyrics and the rendition in janaki's mellifluous voice beautify this song further.
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 68.38.80.142) on: Sat Nov 20 08:35:44 EST 2004
  
  Thanks RR and Ramki and thanks for the translation. Able to appreciate the song better now.. Can an expert list other songs in Sriranjini (by IR and others) and comment how they are different?
  
  Topics like this make me feel great about being a DF-er....
  
  Bala
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Sat Nov 20 09:11:12 EST 2004
  
  Bala this is what i found:
  
  sriranjani:
  Nadhamenum Kovilile... (Manmatha leelai)
  nadham ezhuthathadi (gopura vaasalile)
  velli chathamgaigal - tail piece only
  *pagalilE oru nilavinai (NilavilE oru sangeetham)
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/classical.html
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Sat Nov 20 09:18:15 EST 2004
  
  This is what Lakshminarayan Srirangam Ramakrishnan writes on sriranjani raagam
  
  Talking about the panchama varjaya ragam of Karahapriya, that is , Sriranjani, probably Illayaraja was the best music director to use this wonderful raga. His first Sriranjani came as a tail bit in velli chalangaigal (kaadal ovium). It was a very fast bit sang by the chorus 'thannanthanimayil iru vizhi'. Even though 'velli chalangaigal' was tuned in Chandrakounse ragam, I don't know what made him give the tail bit to Sriranjani (a very strange guy, you know!) The second Sriranjani attempt came in naadavinodhangal in salangai oli. Even in this song he tuned the pallavi alone in Sriranjani, with charanam in Hamsaanandi. This is what I dislike in cinema music directors. Why can't they adhere to a single raga? Why do they have to change from pallavi to charanam? Illayaraja was the one who did best justice to carnatic music among modern music directors. But even he fell a prey to such deviations (from purist point of view) like changing the raga for each line in few songs. His best Sriranjani came in 'nadam ezhundadadi' in Gopura vaasalilae. Again, Yesudoss! It was really fantastic. Karthik had given a comic act in that song. Probably that song toppled M.S.V's best Sriranjani 'nadam enum kovililae..' Dit it? I would say yes.
  
  http://newtfmpage.com/ci/ci2.html
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Sat Nov 20 09:20:04 EST 2004
  
  A thread on Sriranjani
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/27143.12.22.11.html
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Sat Nov 20 09:37:14 EST 2004
  
  Other songs in sriranjani(Gathered from different threads)
  
  1.oru raagam tharaadha veenai - unnai vaazhthi paadugiren
  2.vaa saki vaasaki- arasiyal
  3.theenda theenda malarandhadhenne - ThuLLuvadho iLamai
  4.veNNIlaavin perai maatravaa - Ramana
  5.saami en thaali kodi - shenbagame shenbagame
  6.kannan en naadha oviyam - ivan
  
  
  There is even a website for Sriranjani raagam:)
  
  http://www.sriranjani.com
  
  
• From: RR (@ 218.186.190.8) on: Sat Nov 20 10:19:16 EST 2004
  
  Ramki: small correction. 'theenda theenda' is riti gowla. But this raga is close to sriranjani. They share the same notes (for this reason, these two are almost never taken up in the same concert), but riti gowla has a few spl prayogams that easily distinguish it from sriranjani.
  
  Bharadhwaj did a (rather lowly) sriranjani in 'thinnaathe' (paarthen rasithen).
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 68.38.80.142) on: Sat Nov 20 10:22:19 EST 2004
  
  Wow! (Just overwhelmed with the response. Thanks Ramki!!)
  
  Bala
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 68.38.80.142) on: Sat Nov 20 10:23:38 EST 2004
  
  Wow! (Just overwhelmed with the response. Thanks Ramki!!)
  
  Bala
  
  
• From: RR (@ 218.186.190.8) on: Sat Nov 20 10:26:43 EST 2004
  
  'vanakkam, pala murai sonnen' (avan oru sarithram)- another MSV gem.
  
  
• From: RR (@ 218.186.190.8) on: Sat Nov 20 10:31:44 EST 2004
  
  Returning to 'kaathirunthen kanava', I think this song has distinct bageshri (hindustani counterpart of sriranjani) touches, though carnatic purists may not agree with me. So I tend to call this song as based on 'begeshriranjani' :)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on: Sat Nov 20 12:02:44 EST 2004
  
  RR me too thought the raaga was bagheshri(there are some similiraties between 'nilave ennidam nerungaadhe'(which i believe is in baghesri) and kaathirundhen kaNavaa)
  
  
  Btw does anyknow remember if this song was in the movie? As far as i know 'naan thedum sevvandhi poovidhu' was the popular one. sumangali poojaiyidhu is another good song but not as popular as 'naan thedum'
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.134.219) on: Sat Nov 20 23:11:16 EST 2004
  
  The tune for this song reminds me of the second charanam of "thenmozhi endhan thenmozhi" - Mano's debut song in Solla thudikidhu manasu - a wonderful song spoiled by his voice.
  
  Good pick, Ramki.
  
  

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