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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Nalla Sivam (@ 203.106.164.204) on: Wed Feb 26 09:29:49 EST 2003
  
  did u all notice 'yaar yaar sivam' song is like
  'naney varuven, indrum andrum'
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Thu Feb 27 02:24:13 EST 2003
  
  >>>we are having "poo" in our ears
  
  Too late that you have realised this...you are already addicted by IR's music...too chronic.
  
  
• From: --- (@ 128.107.253.38) on: Thu Feb 27 05:55:15 EST 2003
  
  >>addicted by IR's music
  
  hmm.......tmizhlayE pEsalAmE...
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Thu Feb 27 23:46:35 EST 2003
  
  # From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Wed Feb 26 02:52:34 EST 2003
  
  
  Rags :
  
  So ineffect what you are saying is JG is just a remix album. No wonder when the whole film is a remake of some english film.#
  
  Yes AY. Just like the remix albums of ARR for the past 10years. And those movies are not even copied from English movies :)
  
  
• From: Musio (@ 210.210.34.248) on: Thu Mar 6 11:03:06 EST 2003
  
  
  IR is efficient in utilizing his own tunes in some other song in a different style.
  
  A song from Veera - Vaadi Vethalappakku... was a flop in that movie. But he does'nt wanted to waste the tune for such stupid lyrics. He lifted the tune for a malayalam film, with Mammoty in the lead & jesudas the singer, with Lyrics as 'Ona Thumbathoru Unnaal aadum chella Paigngili'. It became instant Hit & later fetched the State Award for Jesudas. The Song was so brilliantly composed and pleasing to hear in Malayalam.
  
  Another instance is 'Sariya Sariya Ennai Kathalithathu' of 'En Kitta Modhathey' became 'Kuzhalorathil enthan thodiampookkam' in Malayalam & fetched state award for IR.
  
  'Kuyilukkuppam Kuyillukuppam Gopuram Avathenna' came back as 'Thuliyiley Aadavantha Vanathu Min Villakke'.
  
  Note: Lyrics too play a important role in deciding a Hit & Flop.
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.57.194.213) on: Thu Mar 6 21:09:50 EST 2003
  
  Julie Ganapathy is a remake of Horror King Stephen King's Novel "Misery". Which was also made as a hit movie in Hollywood with Kathy Bates (Saritha) and James Kaan (Jayaram). Kathy Bates received Oscar for the performance as a stalking crazy lady. Original was really a worth a watch. Try it any video store you might feel the difference watching the original.
  
  
• From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.181.12) on: Thu Mar 6 22:58:22 EST 2003
  
  Thats a cool note Aswathma... I gonna rent dat movie.
  
  http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1800152650&intl=us
  
  Kathy Bates even won Oscar for Best Actress that year!
  
  
• From: QS (@ 62.199.220.2) on: Fri Mar 7 05:01:59 EST 2003
  
  The song thanthana thanthana thai maasam (music VS) reminds a lot of sempoovae from the movie "Chiraichaalai" music (Ilayaraja)
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Fri Mar 7 11:30:40 EST 2003
  
  'En veetu thottathil poovellam' from film Gentleman is a straight lift from a popular devotional song 'nadavindu kalaadi namo namo'
  
  
• From: Sriram (@ 210.212.49.14) on: Fri Mar 7 13:09:19 EST 2003
  
  Bingo!!
  i too hav heard my neighbour Maama say this........wat a coincidence...maybe .....can neone confirm
  
  
• From: MALAYSIA (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Fri Mar 7 22:12:07 EST 2003
  
  Kadhal Konden YSR latest relese..
  the 18 yavathil song beat almost same as ARR kadhal Virus Baila More...
  listen carefuly...
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Mar 7 23:04:53 EST 2003
  
  mythila:
  Are you joking?
  
  Yes that Nadhavindhu is based on Raagam senchurutti and also the GM song also starts with Senchurutti, goes to Sahaana and inbetween hamsadwani comes and goes...ARR told in one interview that the situation of the song happens in a Brahmin house and the heroine who is a brahmin is asked to sing the song...So the song starts with the "Nadhavindhu " kind tune to resemble the ambience and nativity of the place and then traverse to some other mixture of raaga to make it a duet kind of song....That is what ARR told but in short...(Explanation majorly are mine).
  
  I thought it was a brilliant score..? Don't you..?
  
  
• From: LP (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Fri Mar 7 23:14:31 EST 2003
  
  Ilayaraja copied ARR's Mustaffa Mustaffa in the song Sexy Bomb. Listen to the chorus.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Mar 7 23:53:31 EST 2003
  
  LP:
  
  You have droped a big bomb.!!!!
  
  
• From: sarat (@ 128.192.5.157) on: Sat Mar 8 18:23:05 EST 2003
  
  the first lines from 'ilamai enbathu' song from Asai Asaiyai seems to be inspired by the Mission Impossible theme.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.57) on: Sat Mar 8 19:42:57 EST 2003
  
  Did u know who lead the BIGGEST copying Md in TFM??
  
  1.DEVA (no one can beat him)
  2.HARRIS JEYARAJ (nothing but copied rahman's tunes)
  
  Even deva have given us good music of his own,but Harris cannot be forgived,all rahman,style,music,experimental thingy,man,and yet he can condemn abt rahman..wut a B*ST*RD!!
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.57) on: Sat Mar 8 19:46:17 EST 2003
  
  who knows arrahman's ENGINNER and MUDHAL MUDHALAGA was released by HARRIS in his Kaake Kaake,or Saami,or maby even 12b???who knows..something to think abt!!!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Mar 13 22:07:55 EST 2003
  
  Have added the original of YSR's Kaadhal Konden number 'Nenjodu Kalandhidu' in my site today.
  
  Karthik S
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Mon Mar 17 04:22:35 EST 2003
  
  When I was listening to 'enna solli paaduvathO' of EMV the pallavi resembled a 90's song 'aLLi aLLi veesudhamma anbai mattum andha nila nila' (one of my favourites for the lyrical value). Could it be called as a re-used tune, then?!
  
  Similarly poovaasam purappadum kaNNE of anbe Sivam seems to be a slower version of 'unnOdu vaazhaadha vaazhvenna vaazhvu' of amarkkaLam!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Mar 17 06:08:36 EST 2003
  
  Offtopic...I remember this song ec is talking about...'alli alli veesuthamma'...a really beautiful song. Which movie is that from?
  
  Karthik S
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Mon Mar 17 16:11:42 EST 2003
  
  Karthik S
  I am sorry, i don't know about the film or the casting! Yes its a very beautiful song, especially the pallavi...
  aLLi aLLi veesudhamma anbai mattum andha nila nila
  maaLigai maadam mattum veesaama
  Ola kudisayinu paarkkaama
  
  - curious to know about the lyricist!
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 168.166.80.205) on: Mon Mar 17 17:40:33 EST 2003
  
  ec, karthik
  
  if u are referring to 'alli alli veesumthamma' by SJ, then its from 'atha magha rathiname'...
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Mon Mar 17 23:17:36 EST 2003
  
  ec,
  
  This song is from 'Aththamaga Rathinamee' - MD and Lyricst : Gangai Amaran !!!
  
  I remember seeing an interview in which SJ said this is one of the best songs she has ever sung - Good job by GA !!
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Isai-rasighai (@ 62.199.220.2) on: Tue Mar 18 04:18:14 EST 2003
  
  "Minsaaram en meedhu" --> "Dhill Dhill" (Especially the beats)
  
  The song "pudhu malar" from POVELLAM UN VAASAM reminds a lot of "varatha nadhi karai ooram" from Sangamam.
  
  VS has copied many AR Songs in his career. This will continue bec VS not creative enough to compose own tunes.
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Tue Mar 18 06:14:02 EST 2003
  
  Thanks for the info, Thiru and Nagas.
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 168.166.80.205) on: Tue Mar 18 10:23:58 EST 2003
  
  Yes.. one of the few good songs by GA... Is there a thread on films scored by GA??
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Tue Mar 18 12:04:30 EST 2003
  
  'Alli alli' is my fav song too. The tunes are entirely diff.
  Enna solli is based on Sudhadhanyasi raaga whereas 'Alli alli' is a different raagam altogether.
  Probably the thaalam is similar.
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Tue Mar 18 13:48:30 EST 2003
  
  Re: kaathal kondEn. Only the notes for 'nenjodu kalandhidu' seem to be that of Corr's, from then on it is a different.
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Tue Mar 18 18:42:02 EST 2003
  
  mythila, thanks for your comment. Could you also tell what raga does aLLi aLLi follow?! Just curious to know and thanks in advance.
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Wed Mar 19 17:20:07 EST 2003
  
  'alli alli' sounds like pahaaadi raaga to me.
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Wed Mar 19 19:20:05 EST 2003
  
  Thanks for your reply mythila. Its long since i heard that song (and i couldn't find it anywhere on the net now). That could be the reason for my confusion. Sorry and thanks again. Not many songs (even carnatic ones) seem to be in pahaadi. If you know any other, could you please write them here?!
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Thu Mar 20 17:48:28 EST 2003
  
  Many IR songs are pahaadi based.
  1. Inda maan undan sonda maan from Karagattakaaran
  2. Vaan megangale from Pudhiya vaarpugal
  3. Vaigai nadhi ooram from Rickshaw maama
  4. Vaan madiye oh vaan madiye from Aranmanaikili
  5. Kan maniye pesu from kakkichattai
  are few lovely songs which cross my mind.
  
  
• From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72) on: Thu Mar 20 18:18:13 EST 2003
  
  Mythila:
  
  You missed Karvati Badalthey Rehey from Aap ki Kasam :)
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Fri Mar 21 13:44:31 EST 2003
  
  wonderful! Thanks a lot mythila!
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Sat Mar 22 03:10:54 EST 2003
  
  A nice case of inspiration, that I noted just few days before. If you are a HC anti -IR fan then you can argue that it is a copy..Well, what I saw was the cool resemblence of the Pakiza (Hindi film - Rajkumar, Meenakumari) number -
  "Chalo dildar chalo
  Aar ke paar chalo
  hambhi thyaar chalo....oho..oh"
  
  With
  "vannama vaanavilla naan pudichchu vaaren"
  vinnile meenpudichchu sela katti thaaren..hoi"
  part from "Pachcha mala poovu" song - film Kizhakku vaasal.
  
  Good inspiration, coincidence (copy..!!!?) right.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.99.162.140) on: Thu Mar 27 17:07:45 EST 2003
  
  Hi All,
  I am not sure whether we should discuss copying in Tamil songs alone but I have always been wondering about the Hindi movie Qurbani. One of my friends had this cassette where he had recorded Qurbani songs in Side A and Side B had their Originals (English songs). I am not a big fan of English Songs, so I do not know what songs they were from. Any inputs on this?
  
  

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