Topic started by Anon. (@ 212.188.176.99) on Fri Jun 14 12:08:14 EDT 2002.
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SP Bala should come back and sing hindi songs.
Where are you!!!!!!!!!!!
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- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Tue Jun 18 07:07:50 EDT 2002
MYTH NUMBER ONE
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Right click on this page and choose "view source" in the pop-up menu. Run a search on "img" and you see the IP address. In the case of the person above its 202.9.147.254
MYTH NUMBER TWO:
SPBs hindi accent is actually much much better than Udit's.
MYTH NUMBER THREE:
Northies dont want Southies.
Proof: Kavitha, Mahalaxmi, Hariharan, Shankar Mahadevan, Guru Dutt, Sridevi, Rekha, Jaya Pradha, Padhmini, Suman Kalyanpur, Bhimsen Joshi (he is Kannada speaking BTW), Waheeda Rehman, Vyjayanthimala, A R Rehman, Rajnikanth, - (and not to mention how many songs KSC,SPB,KJY sang in Hindi.)
This is the last time I am saying the above. I dont want to repeat it again and again, as I am getting tired.
Northies are ignorant of South Indian/Carnatic music - very true. But it is not that a South Indian performer hasnt been allowed to work in North Indian films as the above list proves.
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.101)
on: Tue Jun 18 07:16:36 EDT 2002
ennada was myself boss!
u wudnt mind if i used a da wud u?? ;) jus kiddin!
avr!!
so u got the plan!!!!
ur games up beck!! ;)
- From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Jun 18 07:42:02 EDT 2002
oh sorry magix;
Beckam vanthu next friday game illa Brazilai defeat pannu vaaru ennu ninai kireenghala, PIGS MIGHT FLY, brazil 2, England 0
:))
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AVR, it is amazing what u can do with HTML, but is a shame once u view the source code, that u do not have any write access, but just read only acess , he hu ha
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Tue Jun 18 08:21:50 EDT 2002
is that ur photo raghuvaran? :-)
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avr;
spot on dude
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Come on guys., let's just stick 2 thw topic
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.162.122)
on: Tue Jun 18 08:30:58 EDT 2002
Raghu, will you stop it?
Boardsover knew his limit and the size.
You are doing this all over the forum.
I know you are excited, but adakki vaasikka vendi kollgiren.
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sari, sari neengha kodu potta naa roade podhuven,
malai anna malai
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kevalam.. padu kevalam! hey NOM!
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avr,
i said SPB's hindi accent is much much better than Udit's tamil accent........din compare it with Udit's hindi
ROTFL,
ok i shall changemy name to sumthin smaller :( .......aana onnumey thonalai..........seri for the time being refer to the pic.......that is david or beck or becky or dave or watever u wish!!
hey now tis ur choice..........so comfortable?? :)
- From: Ravi R (@ 66.156.160.83)
on: Tue Jun 18 12:41:23 EDT 2002
SPB is a great singer.. but he cant make it in hindi. From someone who lived in north india since birth and having accustomed to their music style and taste. i am afraid SPB albums will hit the floor even before it hits the shelves.. if it were to be in Hindi.
SPB went so far as to tell the TV viewers once that.. Hindi is the national language and he speaks hindi at his home yada.. yada.. yada..
yet his accent gave way... and the north indians dumped him !
Amazing thing is.. SPB kinda fumbles when speaking tamil...got a heavy telugu accent.. for someone who lived his entire life in Madras.. and sang so many songs...is that pretentious ? or...a style.. to speak tamil like that ?
Nope, you cant compare ABBA to the same situation.. those swedish singers sang great in english but were never able to speak for real. but then again they were swedish and the number of albums were not 700 +..
As for why SPB in hindi is better than Udit Narayan in tamil is cuz... its a (stupid) trend to listen to whatever crap todays musicians dish out in the name of moderm music..hip and cool..ohh dolby digital... way kewl !
Cant buy me with all this hype.. god save the tamil music from such.."abhaswarams" and lousy tunes and *alien*( as in pronounciation). singers..
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.103)
on: Wed Jun 19 02:49:58 EDT 2002
gud one Ravi R :-)
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Jun 19 03:03:08 EDT 2002
I cant understand...how can one say "Mr X is better in football than Mr Y is in cricket".
- From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Wed Jun 19 04:19:31 EDT 2002
avr;
me to
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yeah!
like Unni Krishnan is the best cricketeer among singers and the best singer among cricketeers!!
ok that one was a copied dialogue!......kadan thaan vanginem :)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.184)
on: Wed Jun 19 07:01:28 EDT 2002
Boardsover
Can I suggest a name? How about C~P?
avr
I think it is rather simple if you understand what boardsover @ C~P is trying to say. :)
He is saying: Despite the fact that SPB's Hindi accent is not as bad as Udit's Tamil accent, how is possible that Udit is getting more chances to sing in Tamil as compared to SP Bala in Hindi?
If you still do not get it, C~P will explain further. :)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.155)
on: Wed Jun 19 07:07:43 EDT 2002
athu enna c~p??
copy i can understand ;) but c~p????
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Jun 19 07:13:06 EDT 2002
Rotfl:
Despite the fact that SPB's Hindi accent is not as bad as Udit's Tamil accent, how is possible that Udit is getting more chances to sing in Tamil as compared to SP Bala in Hindi?
Oh...there we go again. First of all, again, it doesnt mean much to say "SPB is better in Geometry than Udit is in Algebra". I have mentioned this before. I find SPB unbearable in Hindi songs. Period.
Secondly, SPB was (unfortunately) given far too many chances in Hindi films earlier (80s and early 90s) at the cost of talented Hindi singers like Suresh wadkar, hariharan, bhupinder, jagjit too, who were better in terms of Hindi diction. Suresh Wadkar could very well have sung "dil deewana" very well.
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.5)
on: Wed Jun 19 07:39:28 EDT 2002
Don't "scold" me avr; I am merely the interpreter.
Go after C~P. :)
magix, I shall explain to the sole proprietor of that name. :)
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Jun 19 07:52:26 EDT 2002
no no i wasnt scolding you at all :-) Just answering your doubt.
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.224)
on: Wed Jun 19 10:35:45 EDT 2002
that is a relief, but you must still go after C~P.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Wed Jun 19 10:58:20 EDT 2002
There is something called as maintaining the "nativity" of a given language...IMO, SPB badly fails at that when it comes to hindi. When I listen to the hindi songs that he rendered, I cannot help but think that I am actually listening to a telugu/thamizh song. This is what I mean by nativity. He might have studied hindi as a second language (I believe he did during his schooling) but his voice simply doesn't suit the hindi platform at all.
It is important that a musician relates to the audience in terms of language. This, I think, is very true especially with Indian audience and Indian music.
Why SPB, just take the example of ARR. Listen to his thamizh tunes and hindi tunes. Don't you find a clear-cut hindi style and south-indian style? Compare the songs of Alli arjuna to other thamizh songs of ARR. It seems to me that ARR relates excellently to the local audience. He clearly shows a difference in his composition style between hindi and thamizh.
Also this argument that "if so and so hindi singer can sing a thamizh song, then why can't SPB sing a hindi song" is not a healthy one. One has to think objectively in this issue. Also please note that sadhana sargam has improved tremendously from her initial songs to say "azhagae sugama" from PP. She, however, still needs a lot of improvement!
Why go to hindi, do you think SPB is welcomed in the mallu land...I don't think so. Many of my mallu friends think he is absolutely unfit to sing in malayalam. What can I say about that? Simple, the mallu audience do not relate to SPB's diction.
I just hope that people don't follow me with brickbats. As I mentioned in some other thread, I am a bigtime SPB fan too.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:17:52 EDT 2002
Oops, mistake...."the mallu audience does not relate...." not "...audience do not relate..."
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.1)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:30:52 EDT 2002
hey i know!!
Chinna payan! :))
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.1)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:32:04 EDT 2002
the smileys were for my laughter of relief! ;)
but i'm serious! it's Chinna Payan!!
sorry Beck! But i've earned that nickname too! :(
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.224)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:34:14 EDT 2002
Not Chinna Payyan, but Chutti Pasanga. :)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.1)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:41:09 EDT 2002
grrrr..
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.224)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:50:08 EDT 2002
illaiyaa? :)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.1)
on: Wed Jun 19 11:54:59 EDT 2002
double grrrrrr...!
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ROTFL,
avr kitta nalla maatti vittuteengaley........santhosham-a?? :)
and btw from now on boardsover = C~P.........unga pechukku maruppu unda ;) ..........athukka intha forum-la oruvar than irukkar ;) :)
avr,
theivame.........neenga solvathuthan seri.......naan netri kannai thurakka muyandren.......but netri kannai thiranthalum kutram kutramey :)
ellorum ennai mannikkavum......innum konja nalaikku intha beckham pic vechu post pannuven.......don worry innum konja nalila bore adichuttum.........hopefully :)
- From: curses (@ 203.199.248.72)
on: Thu Jun 20 06:24:44 EDT 2002
innume enga becham??
let's all mourn the loss of beck.. in newtfmpage!!!
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