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who is going to bell the cat????

Topic started by latha (@ 203.197.146.67) on Wed Mar 28 07:59:56 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

hello tfm ppl
it seems to me that the entire tamil film music is dominated by the north indian singers who take tamil words for granted and spoil the very essence of the language.( including shankar mahadevan who pronounces anbae as embaey and inbam as embam and so on!!!!!).sukhwinder and udit need nothing to add
its really a pity that music directors like rahman dont really recognise local talents like harish raghavendra who can really give their best contributions musically and sing tamil in good feel as well.
will the persons concerned realize this

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• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Wed Mar 28 08:16:15 EST 2001
  
  anbae as embaey
  inbam as embam
  
  having known this i thought what would have happened to the vintage classic anbae...inbam yengae...ingae maaradha thaen inbam song if SM with this pronounciation sing the song...I was ROTFTL
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.36) on: Wed Mar 28 11:19:49 EST 2001
  
  In the 'award winning' enna sollap pOgirAi, SM sings
  
  pala ulaga lazhagigaL kOdi - un
  pAtham thazuvalAm vAdi
  
  'ulaga azhagigaL' becomes 'ulaga lazhagigaL'. And this is the best sung song by a male!!
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Wed Mar 28 11:41:50 EST 2001
  
  its not "kodi" I guess...its "koodi" ..this not important anyway
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.36) on: Wed Mar 28 18:27:31 EST 2001
  
  Maybe the way he sang 'koodi' sounded like 'kOdi' :-)))
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 202.144.64.150) on: Mon Apr 2 09:25:02 EDT 2001
  
  The effort to bell IR has failed miserably as he made tfm fans feel that MSV used many native voices.
  Leave alone Raghavendar.( Someone would have told IR that he is from Kannada, telugu or Malayalam origin. He would not have been used by IR if he knew him as a tamil).
  
  Deepan Chakravarthy, TS RAgavendar, Sivasidambaram, TMS selvakumar, TL Magarajan, Thiruppanmburam Shanmugasundaram, TKS Kalaivanan, TK Kala, BS Sasireka, Anuradha Sriram, etc and more deserve more chances. Please not only ARR has used most of the above names recently despite usign north indian voices.
  
  I will be glad if IR or ARR use tamil voices in telugu, Hindi, Kannada or Malayalam movies, the way they use their voices to kill tamil with 'Kiliye' and 'therukkoile'.
  
  The fussy tamil; lyricists deserve it. They disrespected tamil singers pronounciation. Now, let them enjoy their tamil killed and torn to pieces.
  
  
• From: Joe (@ 129.57.10.178) on: Sat Apr 7 20:20:39 EDT 2001
  
  Hi doubtor and flipflo,
  
  
  Can it be
  
  'Pala Ulagu alazhagigaL kOdi' -
  
  that sounded as 'Pala Ulag(u) alazhagigaL kOdi'?
  
  -Joe
  
  
• From: hemachander (@ 203.199.235.35) on: Sun Apr 8 03:26:50 EDT 2001
  
  the bell is to be tied by the music directors who think it is a fancy to use only bombay singers and pay them pots for the mediocrity stuff .they should give up putting mediocrity on the pedestral.they should take into account that not tamilian singer has been allowed to make a mark in other languages.(eg.vani jayram)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Mon Apr 9 03:48:49 EDT 2001
  
  a beautiful logic deduced by raghu...
  
  deepan chakravarthy, sasirekha etc were RECENTLY used by ARR hence ARR uses tamizh voice better than IR. MSV is greater than GR, SM subbiah naidu et al just because he used TAMIZH VOICE recently, then my friend in that logic IR is still greater than MSV and HJ is greater than ARR etc.
  
  if u r so much concerned about the tamizh voice shall i ask one more thing, who told u TM SelvaKumaran is a tamizhian?? uh..
  
  
• From: Peter Pan (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Mon Apr 9 07:34:55 EDT 2001
  
  Here's an interview by a RECENT Tamizh Kolai Kaara DEVAN!
  
  http://www.chennaionline.com/interviews/devan.asp
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 207.43.195.201) on: Mon Apr 9 11:15:24 EDT 2001
  
  It is unfortunate that Devan is not getting any opportunities to compose. I have heard 'kamban oru kanavilE', as well as rave reviews on his composing/jazz skills.
  
  
• From: rs (@ 172.132.80.244) on: Mon Apr 9 13:39:26 EDT 2001
  
  recently on a promotion to the anuradha sriram shankar mahadevan concert in singapore , the compere in the oli radio interviewed SM ..guys what a shame ..she had to translate the whole thing in to tamil for the listeners.being a tamilian( so what if he was born and bred and bombay .. so was hariharan and vani jayaram )he couldnt speak a single sentence in tamil..an irony he was awarded for singinig a tmail song.
  
  and thanx very much guys..i thought theoriginal lyrics were " pala ulaga azhagigal kodi " till now...thanx for letting us all know that it is koodi
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Mon Apr 9 14:26:30 EDT 2001
  
  who bells the cat? CONSUMERS reject the fakes and talentless and insinceres ruthlessly and the industry will clean up its act.
  
  
• From: Analog (@ 12.105.88.34) on: Tue Apr 10 10:44:09 EDT 2001
  
  This morning I was listening to 'amman kovil kizhakkAlE' songs. 'poova eduththu' is just mesmerizing. intha mAthiri pAttu pOtta Raaja eppadi thAn Friends mAthiri pAttu pOttArO. If at all a person who could bring back some sense to TFM, it would be Raaja alone. But is he gonna do it? Still a mystery to many of us.
  
  
• From: Sabesan (@ 12.47.56.254) on: Tue Apr 10 12:56:36 EDT 2001
  
  Analog - he did give such good number's last year (or the previous year)..... there was one Prabhu movie and then a Parthiban movie and then Prakashraj movie and many more..... who listened to those ? the only drawback for those movies were - they were not given the *promo* and *hype* that's much needed as of today..... FRIENDS - as u said is certainly not one of the GREAT albums from IR - but i believe it was marketed well - so it sold well..... without marketing, iam sure Bharathi - many would not have listened to it.... enna pandradhu, today's trend is like that.... why blame IR for it....
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Tue Apr 10 14:15:06 EDT 2001
  
  Sabesan..that was a good one....there are "n" number of brilliant IR's songs that consumers, for some reason, did not have a show any interest at all. essentially, songs and bgms from low budgeted movies were the targets....Listen to "housefull" bgm, how many of us have really seen and appreciated. When such movies come nobody talks any good things about the music....This proves that people, though considered to be irrevocable in judging, can go on appreciating some ultimate nonsense stuffs..
  
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Tue Apr 10 14:16:39 EDT 2001
  
  "have a: in the first line was typographical..sorry for that
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Tue Apr 10 17:34:13 EDT 2001
  
  The last few years IR's music had to face stiff competition from slicly produced and cleverly marketed albums. I think if recording quality were improved many of IRs songs would have become commercially hit as well. I think siRaichAlai was musically good and recording wise good as well. Does anybody know how it did in the charts ?
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 12.47.56.254) on: Tue Apr 10 17:55:16 EDT 2001
  
  not so good Kiru..... "Kadhal Kavidhai" - this was marketed well by Agathiyan, and if iam correct it did well in sales also (just like Friends now)..... i don't think Siraichalai cassette sales did not do much sales as KK.....
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 64.173.9.100) on: Wed Apr 11 00:01:16 EDT 2001
  
  sabesan,
  I think this more and more seems to confirm my suspicion - people cannot tell whether a recording is good for IRs style of composition (big orchestral recording). People seem to respond more to well recorded percussion or synth percussion. And high reverb vocals. hmm..I dont feel so good :(
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 64.163.214.216) on: Wed Apr 11 01:38:30 EDT 2001
  
  Kiru - one small doubt - PRIYA - this is one movie that i really really love IR's recording.... the music was somewhat so clear (in a very very layman's term)..... i am sure it was a HIT.... even now the song's are very very beautiful... and one more movie - Johnny..... even this one had a very good recording... both of these very major hits, weren't they ?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.128.13) on: Wed Apr 11 02:40:50 EDT 2001
  
  PS said in an interview.
  
  "Telungu Thai Moziya Irundthaalum, Thamiz Enaku Deivam Thandtha Varam. Rendu Kannila Onnu."
  
  
• From: V Shankar (@ 202.9.162.180) on: Wed Apr 11 04:09:19 EDT 2001
  
  If IR can maintain the Recording standards of "Priya", "Ninaivellam Nithya" etc., definitely he can bring about a NEW CHANGE in TFM. Especially the Songs of "Ninaivellam Nithya" are crystal clear even in ANALOG. Voice and Instruments have been given their due importants in "Pani Vilzhum Malar Vanam", "Rojaavai Thaalaatum Thendarl", "Nee Thaane Endhan Pon Vasantham"
  
  
• From: e (@ 210.214.5.215) on: Wed Apr 11 08:31:02 EDT 2001
  
  Topic: `Thamizh kolai'yai eppadi thaduppadhu'
  Discussion: Recording of IR plusses / minusses
  
  DFers becoming cats? (I'm trying to bell:-))
  
  
• From: V Shankar (@ 202.9.162.180) on: Wed Apr 11 10:51:05 EDT 2001
  
  Thamizh kolai yen nadakkirathu ????
  
  Bcos now a days due importance is given only to the synthesized music, digital recording etc., and not for the LYRICS or the VOICE. So the MDs doesn't care about the singers (even some MDs sing themselves) or the VOICES. And the trend also has changed that an average listener wants only music for his EARS and not for the SOUL.
  
  How many of the current listeners will hum a MEGA HIT of say 1999 (or) 2000 ????
  
  Now a days the lyrics are printed and supplied along with the cassettes (even though we had the lyrics in the form of a small booklet in olden days), bcos we do not understand what they sing.
  
  If this has to change, then the Lyrics (VOICE) has to be given the due importance.
  
  If you look at my previous posting, you will notice that the songs that i have mentioned are really goods ones, and that too those songs sounded good in Analog Recording. You can enjoy both the Lyrics (ofcourse without killing Tamil) as well as the Instruments.
  
  It is hard to imagine, how the current songs will sound, if recorded in ANALOG Mode. Definitely those (Thamizh Kolai) singers (even MDs) would have vanished from TFM.
  
  Only thing the Current MDs has to do is to choose the correct singer and not to use someone just for the sake of bringing-in some change to TFM.
  
  We welcome NEW Technology, but do not overuse it.
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.36) on: Wed Apr 11 16:04:11 EDT 2001
  
  G. Raghavan
  
  Have you listened to P.Suseelaa's speech in Tamil? NOT her songs, but her speech. Why is it so difficult for her to speak tamil, though she is deeply associated with it for around half a century?
  
  

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