Topic started by cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on Tue Jul 29 12:36:10 EDT 1997.
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- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Tue Jul 29 12:38:53 EDT 1997
In recent TFM, we don't get to see very good lyrics for love songs unlike old songs where lyrics dominated music.. I would like to list some songs which I enjoyed the most in the present TFM because of lyrics.
Here are two love songs I enjoyed the most because of the excellent lyrics. I will add more to my list as the discussion starts.
In the song "Rojavai thalattum thendral" in "Nenaivellam nithya"
"Vasanthangal vazhthum pozhudhu unadhu kilaiyil poovaven
Ilayudhir kalam muzhudum mazhindhu unakku veraaven
Pooveli methaigal theipam kannukul mangaiyai veipen
Nee kattum selaiyukku noolaven"
Is the ultimate a kadhanayagan can express his love to his kadhanayagi.
In the song "Nenjukkulle innarunu" in "Ponnumani"
"Nenjukkulle innarunu sonna puriyuma
Adhu konji konji pesuradhu kannil theriyuma
Ulage azhijalum un uruvam azhiyadhe
Uyire pirinjalum uravedhum piriyadhe
Unnamal urangamal unnal thavikkum sinthamikkul"
How else can anyone express his/her true love?
Guys, please list the love songs you liked the most because of the lyrics. It is great to collect those and enjoy the treat given by our GREAT tamizh lyricists.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Tue Jul 29 17:31:04 EDT 1997
I would like to add the following songs too to my list:
From "Chandralekha"
Arumbum thalire thalir thoongidum paniye paniththooiymaiye
Malarum maname manam engidum kaniye kanippavaye
Paaradum meene Neethane vendum
oonadum uyire neethane vendum
- Oru pen evalavu menmaiyanaval endru edhai vida yaaral sollamudiyum?
From "Guna":
Paartha vizhi paarthapadi poothu irukka
kaathirundha kaatchi ingu kaana kidaikka
oon uruga uyir uruga THen tharum thadaagame
madhi varuga vazhi neduga oLi niraiga vazhvile
- dheiveega kadhalappa!
From "Pattina pravesam"
vaa nila nila alla un valibam nila
then nila enum nila en devi innila
Nee iladha naaLellam naan THeindha vennila
- Nilavai vida Azhago avaL?
From "Alaigal ooyvadhillai"
vizhiyil vizhundhu idhaiyam nulaindhu
uyiril kalandha urave
Iravum pagalum urasikkollum andhi pozhudhin podhu
Alaiyin karaiyil kathurippen azhudha vizhigalodu
Enakku mattum sondham unadhu idhazh kodukkum muththam
Unakku mattum ketkum enadhu uyir urugum saththam
- Uyir oon irandum inaiyum arpudhamo kaadhal?
Hats off to our GREAT lyricists who have given such kavidhaigal.
Guys, please ungal manangalai therundhu arumaiyana padalgalai eduthu vidungal!
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ client-116-2.bellatlantic.net)
on: Tue Jul 29 19:22:26 EDT 1997
Some of my favourite love songs :
Kannadhasan :
Unnai kaanadha kannum kannalla
Nee Illadha Ulagathile nimmadhi illai
Naan pesa ninapathellam nee pesa vendum
Bharathi (film songs)
Veenaiyadi nee enakku mevum viral naan unakku
Kaatru veliyidai kannamma
(Anti-love song) Mohathai kondru vidu
Panchu Arunachalam
Oru Naal Unnodu Oru Naal
Vairamuthu :
Andhi Mazhai Pozhigirathu
( Thanimaiyile Verumaiyile Ethanai Naaladi Ilamaiyile
Nenjukulle Konjamiru Thavani visirigal veesugiren)
Mazhaiye mazhaiye - some Shanker-Ganesh song
Vizhiyil vizhundhu idhayam nuzhaindhu
Geetham Sangeetham Neethane en kaadhal vedham
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ client-116-2.bellatlantic.net)
on: Tue Jul 29 19:26:13 EDT 1997
Also
Neethane enthan pon vasantham
(Nee aadai anikalan soodum araigalil roja malligai vaasam
Muga vyarvai thuliyadhu pogum varaiyilum thendral kavarigal veesum).
What karpanai !
Vairamuthu's early songs were great - He introduced sensuality to kaadhal songs. Now - the less said the better. Vairamuthu - Ilaiyaraaja team was a great team. It could have rivalled Kannadhasan-MSV team. But ego !
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed Jul 30 00:19:24 EDT 1997
Some Kannadhasan lines that I like:
innum naan enbadhaa, unnai nee enbadhaa
illai naam endru per solvadhaa
naan aval perai thinam paadum kuyilallavaa
en paadal aval thandha mozhiyallavaa
engirundha podhum unnai marakka mudiyumaa
ennaivittu un ninaivai pirikka mudiyumaa
udal nalamindri thookkamillaamal thavikkum
kadhalanai paarththu oruththi paadum paattu varigal:
kaalaiyil naan Or kanavu kanden
adhai kangalil inge kondu vandhen
eduththathin vegam kuraindhu vidaamal
koduththuvitten undhan kangalile
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Wed Jul 30 01:10:24 EDT 1997
Nice topic.
From "Nalam nalamariya aaval"(Lyr: Agathiyan)
koovilile naan thozhuthen kolamyil unai sernthidave
kodi murai naan thozhuthen kaalamelaam nee vazhnthidave
un mugam naan paarka kadithame thaanaa
vaarthayil theriyatha vadivamum naanaa
nizharpadam anuppidu ennuyire
nijamindri verillai ennidame
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-ti22.proxy.aol.com)
on: Wed Jul 30 10:56:05 EDT 1997
cp: This is a great topic. I'm going to give a partial list here of some of my favorites which reflect different facets of love-- from spiritual to sensual--at varying degrees of intensity.
Kovil kandaen angu dheivam illai
Odi vandhaen ingae nee irundhaai....
Nee illayael naan illayae
Kadalilae mazhai peidha pin endha thuli mazhai
thuli
Kaadhalil adhu poala naan kalndhitoam
kaadhali
(SPB's expression enhances the lyrics)
Adadaa adadaa inru thannerum thithikkinradhae
(says much without explicit words)
Unnai naan paarkum podhu mannai nee paarkinraayae
Vinnai naan paarkum podhu ennai nee paarkinraayae
(idea from thirukurral; but romance is fresh)
thoodhu sella oru thoazhi illai ena thuyar kondaayoa thalaivi
thullum kaatru vandhu mella saelai thoda sugam kandaayoa thalaivi
(not a direct love song but descriptive of the heroine's feelings as she misses the hero)
nalam nalamthaanaa mullai malarae
sugam sugamthaanaa muthu chudarae
onril onraana pin thannai thandhaana pin
unnidam naan enna solluvadhoa
idhu swargamaa naragamaa solladi ullapadi
naan vaazhvadhum vidai kondu povadhum un vaarthayil ulladhadi
manidhar unarndhu kolla
idhu manidha kaadhal alla
adhayum thaandi punidhamaanadhu
paada solvadhu thaen malar nooru
arundha solvadhu maangani chaaru
kooda solvadhu kaaviri aaru
koduppaar koduthaal maruppavar yaaru
mayakkum maalai pozhudhae nee po po
thaen sindhudhae vaanam unai enai thaalaatudhae
mazhai thulidhaan enna seyyumoa
moongil kaattinil thee vizhum pozhudhu
moongil kaadenru aayinal maadhu
kannan endhan kaadhalan
kannil aadum mayavan
ennai saerndhavan
maalaigal aanadhum nee sollum naadagam...
kaathiruppaen mannava
aasai enbadhaa paasam enbadhaa
kaadhal enbadhaa karunai enbadhaa
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Wed Jul 30 12:38:49 EDT 1997
Ok, Guys thanks for all the response. But I would like to know the songs in recent TFM which have good lyrics(very difficult indeed!)
New songs with good lyrics:
1)Poovil vandhu koodum kandu
Koodum kangal moodum
Poovinam maradhu koodum
Vandugal sangeetham paadum
2)Valimbagal oodum vayadhaga koodum
Aanalum anbu maradhadhu
Malaiyenum sontham mudi potta bandham
pirivennum solle ariyadhadhu
3)netru illadha matrum ennadhu
Katru en kaadhil edho sonnadhu
Idhu thaan kadhal enbatha
Idhayam sindhi vittathaa
(next line anyone pls..)sol maname
katru vazhipovadhai natru solkindradhu
netru mazhai peidhadhai eeram solkindradhu
kannil vazhigindra kadhal solgindradhu
Idhayam theernathalume(?) innum nenaivullathu
Iravu theernthalume innum nilavullathu
If anyone knows this song completely, please put it down. I simply love this song.
Very romantic.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Wed Jul 30 17:45:54 EDT 1997
More love songs(new) with good lyrics:
1)Mangai nee mangani madal vidum
malligai vazhthidum mazhaiththuli
Sindhidum punnagai sindhamani
Nadukkam thottam nee naan oru theni
- Movie ???
2)In "Pundhalir" Raja has given an excellent song, the following verses in "vaa ponmayile"
is very lovely.
"Meyniyin manjal niram vanaLandhadhoo
Boomiyin neeLa niram kannaLandhadhoo
Azhaghe sugam valara valara
Varuvai suvai peruga peruga
Ilayamin Naliname inimayin uruvam malara vaa ponmayile"
3)In "Sigaram", SPB sings
"vannam konda vennilave
vanai vittu varaiyo
vinnile padhai illai
unnai thoda eNi illai"
I am sorry for posting many songs. I could not resist writing them. I doubt if songs in other languages have such good lyrics!
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Wed Jul 30 19:32:05 EDT 1997
cp: I saw older songs in the previous responses and jumped in with my old favorites too. Sorry. Please note my newer favorites included in the above list from Bombay, Kaadhalan, Duet and Gunaa.
Your Pudhiya Mugam favorite is one of mine too. Here is the complete song (Sujatha's version not the pathos version):
Netru illaadha maatram ennadhu
Kaatru en kaddilaedhaan sonnadhu
idhudhaan kaadhal enbadhaa
ilamai pongi vittadhaa
idhayam sindhi vittadhaa
sol manamae....
- - - - -
kadavul illai enraen thaayai kaanum varai
kanavu illai enraen aasai thonrum varai
kaadhal poi enru sonnaen unnai kaanum varai
kavidhai variyin suvai artham puriyum varai
gangai nadhiyin suvai kadalil saerum varai
kaadhal suvai onru thaanae kaatru veesum varai
- - - - -
vaanam illaamalae boomi undaagalaam
vaarthai illamalae baashai undaagalaam
kaadhal illaamal poanaal vaazhkai undaaguma
vaasam illamalae vanna poo pookalaam
vaasal illaamalae kaatru vandhaadalaam
nesam illaadha vaazhvil paasam undaaguma
Enjoy, cp!!!
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Thu Jul 31 12:26:34 EDT 1997
To Kanchana:
Thanx a lot. I even love the pathos version of this song.
- From: NO Valen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Aug 1 03:08:06 EDT 1997
My latest favourite in a new song:
Vennilavey, vennilavey, vinnei thaandi varuvaayaa?
Vilayaader jodi theivei!
Thamizannei thavira veru yaarukkum varaathu inthe karpanaei!
See how he talks about the evening - Ithu pagal aller, ithu iraveller, ithu rendodum sehraathe ponveilei!
Another all time favorite (this time courtesy of Vairamuthu): Pon maalei pozhuthu - Vaaner magal naanugiraal, veru udai pohdugiraal (The writer imagines the sky to be blushing red when changing its clothes!) - Fantastic!
Talking about the evening sky - there is another song already listed, but my favourite part goes like this: Iravum pagalum urasi kollum andhi pozhuthil vandhu vidu (Guess what is the title of the song!)
- From: NO Valen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Aug 1 03:11:05 EDT 1997
After posting the Vairamuthu song, I realised that he was inspired by Kannadhasan's "Senthaazham poovil vanthaadum thendral yen meethu mohthuthamma" sung by KJJesudass. Does anyone know which part of this song I am refering to?
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Aug 1 11:12:14 EDT 1997
To Nammoor:
If I am right, I think the topic I started was on great lyrics for love songs. It will be nice If you could give some more input on that.
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 13:51:43 EDT 1997
Another favourite of mine :
Gnayiru enbadhu kannaga
Thingal enbadhu pennaga
Sevvai kovai pazhamaga
serndhe nadandhadhu azhagaaga
Netraiya pozhudhu kannodu
indraiya pozhudhu kaiyodu
naalaiya pozhudhum unnodu
nizhalaai nadappen pinnodu
These lyrics are not politically correct in this age of equality and feminism. A similar idea (or the same idea) from Vairamuthu :
Geetha Sangeetham
Neethane en kaadhal vedham
Paadham undhan paadham
ennodu vandhale podhum eppodhum
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 13:58:00 EDT 1997
Great romantic songs from Salil Chowdhry :
( I cannot recall exact lyrics but these songs are as romantic as they get):
(Dhoorathu Idi Muzhakkam)
Ullamellam ThaLaadudhe
ullukkulle edhodho ennangal poraadudhe
Poovannam Pola nenjam
bhoopalam paadum neram
(I keep forgeting this Balu Mahendra movie)
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 14:15:04 EDT 1997
Poovannam pola nenjam is from Aziyadha Kolangal.
Other great songs :
Ninandhu ninaindhu nenjam urugudhe
nee ingiradha thunbam perugudhe
(Sadharam I think)
Muthukkalo kangal
Thithippadho kannam
Nenjirukkum varai. (You can feel the passion in Sivaji's eyes as he dreams about KRVijaya).
There are different types of love-songs :
Duet
Male solo fantasy
Female sole fantasy
Unrequited love
Viraha dhabam
Maybe we should categorize the love-songs in categories.
Other favourites of mine :
Manadhil enna ninaivugalo (Poonthalir ?)
Chinna pura ondru
Oru vaanavil pole en vaazhvile vandhai (?)
Nee varuvaai en naan irundhen (Sujatha)
Naane naana yaaro dhana
mella mella maarinena
Ullam endroru koyilile
deivam vendum anbe vaa
Kaalangalil aval vasantham
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Aug 1 15:41:18 EDT 1997
To Nammoor:
Your first song's title is "vizhiyil vizhundhu idhaiyam nulaindhu uyiril kalandha urave" - GREAT song.
But I don't understand what you were trying to convey in the song "Senthazam poovil". It is a great song which explains about nature as well as a beautiful girl.
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tb02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 16:24:15 EDT 1997
PG:
CP has kept on reminding all of us that he would like to focus on newer lyrics. Do you want to start a separate thread for older songs, and do your categorization? That will still be fun, since this topic is good for new and old.
CP:
Do you want the lyrics to "Naetru illaadha maatram" pathos version? I knew the female version since I've sung it; with a little effort I can remember the pathos version too. Let me know.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Aug 1 16:30:10 EDT 1997
To Kanchana:
Neengal ennayudaiya profileaiy innoru topicil parthu iruppeer endru nenaikkiren. Pinne ennai en HE endru refer seigireergal?
Naan oru peNN enbathai perumaiyudan sollikkoLgiren.
- From: NO Valen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Aug 1 23:16:02 EDT 1997
Sorry for going off-track - got carried away I suppose! Anyway, Vennilavey, vennilavey is a love song. ARR paatunaa ungalaalei yethuka mudiyaathaa?
One of my great all time favourites is Chitra's Yetheitho yennam valarthein from Punnagai Mannan. The lyric is simply superb. Enjoy...
Kula deivamey, endhan kurai theerkavaa
Kai neetinein, ennai karai serkkava
Neeyei anaikkavaa, theeyai anaikkavaa
Nee paarkkum podhu, paniyagirein
Un marbil saindhu kulir kaigirein
Yedhu vandhe podhum, indhe anbu podhum
- From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 202.54.10.95)
on: Sat Aug 2 07:15:08 EDT 1997
how about
idhu enna maNNil kUda nilavum varumaa
sarasam payilum viziyil varumE
idhu enna thendral kUda analaay sudumaa
thanimai ninaivil analaay sudumE
paarkaamal mella paarthaaLE
athu thaana kaathal kalai
thOLOdu aLLi sErthaana
athu thaana mOna nilai
pulamai piththan - maragathamani - azhagan
- From: Ravi (@ ww-tc22.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Aug 2 10:43:27 EDT 1997
To PG:
ullamellam thalladuthe from D Idi Muz.. has a good tune. But the qulaity of lyrics is not all that great. In one stanza it goes like this;
aaN manam vaithal anji pin vanguma?
and in another stanza,
Thali endra veli katti kappathuvaen..
I have to admit it is lilting melody inspite of the shortcomings on the lyrics part.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Mon Aug 4 15:07:36 EDT 1997
To Nammoor:
Any good song with great lyrics by any MD is acceptable. Except that I requested you all to give new songs which have only few with kavidhaichchuvai.
"vennilave vennilave" lines are good.
- From: Muralikrishna. S (@ 204.220.167.106)
on: Thu Aug 28 08:56:46 EDT 1997
I love these songs :
1) Kannil Yenna kaar kaalam
kannangalil neer kolam...
2) Idhazhil Kadai ezhudum neram idhu...
3) Nee oru kaadhal Sangeetham ...
4) Vedham nee..enadhu naadham nee..
5) Vizhiyile malarndhadhu..uyirile kalandhadhu..
The list continues... (I'll post it later)
- From: Vasanthi Venkataraman (@ envelope.postx.com)
on: Thu Aug 28 11:46:25 EDT 1997
I think this will be a good one to add on to the list.
"Nee paadhi naan paadhi kanne..."
Movie: keladi kanmani
Can somebody post the lyrics for this song ? Thanks in advance.
Vasanthi
- From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Thu Aug 28 14:41:51 EDT 1997
My Favoutite:
Mannil Indha Kadhal andri yarum vazhldal koodumo ?
Music: IR, Singer : SPB Movie: Keladi Kanmani
Lyrics: Bharadhidasan.
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Thu Aug 28 17:44:37 EDT 1997
What ?!! Mannil Indha Kadhal is By BharathiDasan?
No no,,, I Think It is by Pavalar
Varadaras(J)an (Raja's Bro)
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Thu Aug 28 18:28:22 EDT 1997
thUdhu selvadhAradi -urugidum
pOthu seyvadhennadi.
Can anyone post the whole song (It's a small one!!!). I will also try
to recollect.
- From: Muralikrishna S (@ 204.220.167.106)
on: Sun Aug 31 00:44:35 EDT 1997
AS I already told, I'm posting five more songs to the list and it will still continue..
1) Kanmaniye kaadhal enbathu karpanaiyo..kaaviyamo... (Film :6 to 60)
2) Kaadhalin deepam ondru
YetrinaaLe en nenjil..
(Film: Thambikku endha ooru?)
3) Thaalaatuthe vaanam..
Thallaaduthe megam... (Film: Kadal Meengal)
4) Poongaatru.. vanna neerootru(Film: Vetri Vizha)
5) Pon maane sangeetham paadivaa ..
(Film: I'm a Red Man)
- From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Fri Sep 19 15:27:39 EDT 1997
Gokul:
Thanks for correcting me. I got confused
by the the song "Mannill Indha" was written
by Pavalar Varadarasan.
- From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu)
on: Fri Sep 19 16:49:05 EDT 1997
Gokul: Wasn't mannil intha written by GA? chumma than annavOda peyara pOttukittar.
- From: G.Ragavan (@ ppp-89-18.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Tue Feb 15 02:10:32 EST 2000
Let me explain two lines from song "Alangkaram Kalaiyatha Chilai ondru Kandean".
Unndayin undendru manam kolluvom
Illayin illendru vaan cheluvom
They love each other. They want to get married. Athu Undayin(If they get) mannam Kolluvom.
Kolluvom means owning something. They want to own each other by marriage.
See the second line.
Illayin illendru vaan cheluvom
Suppose if they get failed, Vaan cheluvom.
Note the point. He didn't write vaan kolluvom. They don't want to own death. Vaan cheluvom. If we go some where, we have to come back. By that way they will come back and join together.
We need two paragraphs to explain two lines.
Kannadasan is great.
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