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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Thu May 15 04:19:48 EDT 2003
  
  I've created a yahoo group for sending out the SOTD info each day. Please join here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tfmpagesotd/
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 195.188.191.86) on: Thu May 15 04:48:18 EDT 2003
  
  bb, I strongly recommend that we started a new thread, 'What is that which Saravanan does not know about TFM/TFM music ?':). Amazing knowledge.
  
  
• From: :) (@ 24.150.35.51) on: Thu May 15 06:42:51 EDT 2003
  
  bb:
  The search in yahoo groups doesn't work as well as google. So would you consolidate what goes on at the yahoo group and post it in newtfmpage as well?
  
  
• From: sriram (@ 63.246.166.144) on: Thu May 15 09:18:18 EDT 2003
  
  bb,
  where do you get these songs from?? amazing collection. thanks.
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.1) on: Thu May 15 10:25:17 EDT 2003
  
  bb
  
  I have the same question as Sriram. Seriously, can you tell us the source?????? I haven't heard this song in a loooooooong time.
  
  BTW, I thought 'pudhuch cheruppu kadikkum' was MDed by Chandrabose.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Thu May 15 11:11:44 EDT 2003
  
  :), this thread and sotd archive will remain. The yahoo groups is for people who want to get my SOTD description by mail.
  
  My collection is from various sources, most old songs from Sathiya Keerthi (who has a great collection). At the last count, I had around 6000+ songs.
  
  
• From: other_side (@ 209.166.128.18) on: Thu May 15 12:45:58 EDT 2003
  
  i get a nostalgic feeling as if iam watching "oliyum oliyum". i dont think i can hear these kinds of songs anywhere else.ennakku therinju entha filmoda MD M.B.Srinivasan kittaya entha song irrukathunnu ninaikeraen :).bb thanxs for diggin up all these rare songs.great job :)
  
  Saravanan discuss panathey film matterey illannu ninaikiraen.Reference saravanan's discussion this, saravanan's discussion that.sara oru periya encylopedia neenga.why dont you put up a site on the history of tamil films :).
  
  
• From: venkat (@ 128.100.148.47) on: Thu May 15 13:15:51 EDT 2003
  
  balaji, Thanks for acceding to my pressure :))
  
  PCK music director is for sure MBSrinivasan.
  
  PCK was not one short story, it is actually a patch of 4 different short stories by JK. Many of my friends who saw the preview of this agreed that it is a bold and masterpiece work. But not all 'roads not taken' lead to desired destinations. Some journeys are interesting, but never see the light at the end of the tunnel. Not being able to find a distributor to release PCK is a shame on Tamil cinema.
  
  That aside, no one spoke about this song per se. It is one of the memorable renditions in TFM, kudos to SPB. Actually it is this song that made me turn towards SPB. MBS was famous for his choir music in AIR. Here he subtly underplays to the lyric, lifting the whole song - with SPB's fullest cooperation. Interlude flute takes you directly to a sedate pool in the middle of a vast field.
  
  SPB brings that 'thaapam' on his voice very naturally.
  
  Lyric - btw - while we had the pleasure of reading them for "on a hot summer morning", we should not miss this.
  
  
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  It is a very complex one, in terms of yappu, vaarthai pirayogam and structuring. I tried to write the lyric as a yappu purist would. Look at the 3 syllable and 4 syllable words (amazing to see aa|kaa|thaa, maa|rE|naa, vaa|rE|naa, paa|rE|naa - all of them three syllables with long nedils and no kurils or oRRu). This kind of a poem can culminate only on long rigorous excercise; I doubt a personality like JK putting that hard labour. But how...
  
  Quite a great imagination too: padikkattin itaiyilE or palakaiyaai maarEnaa - as she treads he cherishes the experience, looking at the feet. Not becoming the plank that she stomps on and look obsecenly upwards, rather staying sideways between the steps and watching only the lower leg. Amazingly careful craft. Olaic cuvaraaki munnindru paarEnaa - while seeing that he becomes a dead palm leaf - loosing all his senses.
  
  It is a pity that JK wrote few poems. But, he showed his class and probably hibernated just issuing a warning to his contemporary poets.
  
  
• From: tholainthu_ponvan (@ 67.125.25.37) on: Thu May 15 13:19:23 EDT 2003
  
  For me the dhool song is " Antha naal ghabhakam nenjiley..."
  In that it says " Nallavan Kettavan illaiye nammidey...."
  What a wonderful words. It needs experience to feel the pain of this...
  HAts off to the team that penerated this feeling
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Thu May 15 14:00:50 EDT 2003
  
  Sudar Ramanathan from Bangalore wrote abt this:
  
  Subject: nenjjil nindra paadal !
  Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 06:05:22 PDT
  
  mudhal indhap paatte kEttadhu circa '80
  ceylon radio'le araikuraiyaa kEttirukkEn
  appOvE oru aazhndha baadhippu
  (innum indha paithiyam vidalE!)
  
  thEdith thEdik kandupidikaiyile 1990
  (pollachi thaandi bus'le pOitrukkam bOdhu!)
  
  pinnaNiyile chinnadha oru flute
  kUduvE oru guitar strum
  Etham erakkira maadhiri
  oru thop thop udukkai
  
  andha vayasule puriyaadha lyrix
  (ippO mattum purinjjadha nenappO!)
  oru graamathu(malai vaazh?) poNNap paathu
  pattanathu aasaami paadura maadhiri irukku
  
  ellathaiyum mIRi enigmatic spb
  pourNamiyai urukki vaartha kural
  Ethamum irakkamumaai orE kirakkam
  imho, among the best he has given!
  
  padam pEru sonnappa df'le
  (..they were collecting spb oldies)
  sirikkaadha aaLE kidaiyaadhu
  "pudhu cheruppu kadikkum"
  
  jayakaandhan padam
  lyrixum avar dhaan'nu ninaikirEn
  paattu theriyudhaa..?
  kEttandhundaa..?
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Thu May 15 14:04:09 EDT 2003
  
  venkat, good one. "manjaLpoosum" konjam idikkudhu. maththapadi, as you said, he has done very well.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.13) on: Thu May 15 14:37:25 EDT 2003
  
  Venkat- I too have heard that PCK was actually 4 stories in one, but Asokamitran wrote that JK expanded the story PCK into the film- so I wasn’t sure.
  
  The lyrics of both Sithirapoo selai and Udal enbaar uyir enbaar are amazing, the kind rarely seen in films.
  
  Btw, in the same year 1978, there was one more film by the JK-Bhimsingh partnership- the third in the trilogy of SNSM and ONNP- it was Karunai Ullam. I have seen it on TV long back- it starred Srikanth, Vijayakumar, KR Vijaya, Sukumari and others. I vaguely remember the story- Srikanth played an epileptic. And KRV gave an uncharacteristically subdued, but brilliant performance. Does anyone have info on the songs of Karunai Ullam? Were they written by JK?
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.1) on: Thu May 15 15:18:01 EDT 2003
  
  bb
  
  Do you still have the contacts for this Sundar Ramanathan????
  
  
• From: venkat (@ 128.100.148.47) on: Thu May 15 15:18:48 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan, as some one following JK throughout his career, I have never come across this movie karunai ullam associated with JK. Somewhere in the lower strata of my cerebrum, karunai uLLam is getting a neuron kicked with the song
  " karunai uLLam, kadavul illam..." with children singing in chorus. Is there any song like that in that movie.
  
  I guess JK has nothing to do with this.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Thu May 15 15:30:01 EDT 2003
  
  yes, send me a mail.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 12.30.122.10) on: Thu May 15 15:56:33 EDT 2003
  
  hey venkat the song u r mentioning is from Anbulla Rajnikanth
  
  "Kadavul ullame Karunai illame"
  
  
  
• From: venkat (@ 128.100.148.47) on: Thu May 15 16:56:11 EDT 2003
  
  raj,
  
  he, he, he ...:)). kaLimaN is drying in my head.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Thu May 15 17:13:23 EDT 2003
  
  Wow!!
  
  What a song!
  
  The percussion is a folk beat I have not heard many places. (Closest is Poralae ponnuthayee).
  
  Orchestration is minimalistic and pleasant and the song definitely has inspired ARR. Even the synth sound! Is it possible his dad played the synth - just wondering!
  
  Thanks a lot bb.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Fri May 16 01:07:00 EDT 2003
  
  Song of the Day: poo mEdaiyO pon veeNaiyO from aayiram pookkaL malarattum.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/poomedaiyo.rm
  
  - A good song by V.S.Narasimhan to get to the weekend. Sung by SPB and SJ. This song has a distinct hindi film song feel to it (due to the rhythms?). The guitar interludes in this song is pretty good.
  
  - Thread on V.S.Narasimhan: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/29868.16.16.40.html . He visited this thread a couple of years back. VSN is the right hand man of Ilayaraja. He has also composed for films like "achchamillai achchamillai" and "paasa malargaL".
  
  - SPB SJ duets: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/13889.11.04.32.html
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 64.136.26.232) on: Fri May 16 04:51:36 EDT 2003
  
  "Poomaedayoa" is one of the most cohesive compositions ever in TFM. The instruments sound like they're undulating with each other in step propelling the song and pulling us into its vortex as the vocals go with that sensation. The guitar and violin arrangements are fluid along with the muted drums which bring to mind a middle eastern belly dance flavor. This alone would be enough, but VSN excels in what his guru abandoned after the early years: enchanting interludes that take the sandham on a scenic route (not a detour mind you, big difference here) seamlessly between the pallavi and charanams without sacrificing the melody's integrity. In a perfect world, VSN would've done at least a 100 movies.
  
  
• From: venkat (@ 66.185.85.78) on: Fri May 16 06:37:52 EDT 2003
  
  VSN was the conductor of Madras Chamber Orchestra and did several arrangements for IR as he was an asst (read it as assistant and asset) to IR. accamillai accamillai had a wonderful composition in avaarampoovu... Much was expected of him. In a sense it is good that he came back to IR after his individual attempt (I would like to see great musicians like VSN, Shivamani, Prasanna, moving freely between composers - giving their very best to 'that' song which calls them rather than getting labelled).
  
  

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