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Kuppai Songs of ARR

Topic started by Kaveri (@ 12.92.216.134) on Sun Mar 25 16:58:09 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Although each and every song was claimed by himself and his fans as his best effort.

There are lots of Kuppai from him. I'd like to pick up some kuppai effort from him.

1.Kathirikka Kathirikka, 2.Rukkumani Rukkumani, 3.Parotta Parotta 4.pathikkichu pathikichu 5.Jumbalakka jumbalakka.... etc.,

Its looks like Irattai Kilavi doesn't suit for ARR.

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Responses:

• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.168.217) on: Sun Mar 25 17:52:04 EST 2001
  
  Kuppai Koodaiye entha Kuppai a real "Kuppai"
  
  
• From: Sriram (@ 203.197.133.22) on: Mon Mar 26 01:53:30 EST 2001
  
  Kuppainnu Theriyum illa, appuram enna aaraichi?
  
  
• From: kk (@ 203.126.228.21) on: Mon Mar 26 02:23:14 EST 2001
  
  Kuppai to you.
  
  Kalkandu for me.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 202.54.84.65) on: Mon Mar 26 02:30:45 EST 2001
  
  anjali anjali pushpanjali..
  malargaley malargaley..
  chinna chinna aasai..
  roja roja.. roja roja ..
  urvasi urvasi..
  chikkubukku chikkubukku..
  and a lot more with repetitive words starting the song,,...are they not hits??????every MD gives kuppai sometimes...the percentage differs for each one..
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.128.13) on: Mon Mar 26 02:58:57 EST 2001
  
  Kaveri. This is not the correct way to start a thread. There is a way to express dislikes. By noway that should hurt others.
  
  Fliflo and Sriram : You Too.
  
  
• From: Common Friends (@ 203.197.141.179) on: Mon Mar 26 11:27:10 EST 2001
  
  G.Ragavan:
  Leave it yaar. These people just want to release their frustration which keeps on increasing day by day and by bashing ARR in more innovating ways , they are having a psycho-pathetic pleasure. ARR has not given a film for so long but still these people remembering him and will keep remembering him even after they forget IR.
  
  
  
• From: UVII (@ 166.90.248.158) on: Mon Mar 26 12:00:35 EST 2001
  
  CF,
  I don't know where IR comes into picture here, and how do you assume that Kaveri is an IR fan?. You guys are paranoid....:-)
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Mon Mar 26 12:07:50 EST 2001
  
  UVII:
  I am sure she is one anmoung the group. Only hc IR fans have got the talent of starting such innovative threads to bash ARR. What more proof is required.?
  
  
• From: UVII (@ 166.90.248.158) on: Mon Mar 26 12:20:15 EST 2001
  
  This basic assumption of you is wrong IMHO.
  
  
• From: UVII (@ 166.90.248.158) on: Mon Mar 26 12:21:16 EST 2001
  
  Well, why don't you list the songs of ARR which you think were not upto his mark, cud have been better.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Mon Mar 26 12:23:14 EST 2001
  
  Kuppiya gopurathil kondu poi vechcha athu gopurathukku thaan asingam..Intha kaathule mela pona adutha kaathule keela vandhudum...Aththaan Kuppai....
  
  
• From: saneguy (@ 63.75.49.120) on: Mon Mar 26 18:10:39 EST 2001
  
  Good that you started compiling kuppai songs of Rahman rather than Raja&family. I donot know how many pages they would have occupied. Anyway good decision.
  
  
• From: mirth (@ 137.132.3.7) on: Tue Mar 27 01:26:23 EST 2001
  
  Most Of ARR songs range from average to excellent. There are very few bad songs.
  
  I think his worst songs were from the movie Love Birds. With the exception of Malargale Malargale and maybe Sambo Sambo, the other songs were pretty bad. If fact, they are so bad that I can only remember No Problem, not any of the remaining songs.
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Tue Mar 27 03:36:44 EST 2001
  
  
  Some of ARR's mediocre numbers have been (coincidentally) for Prabhu Deva. 'Love Birds' and 'Mr. Romeo' take the cake. Except for 'Malargale Malargale', which is one of my all-time favorites, all other songs were quite mediocre in the former.
  Songs for some of the less-publicised albums (this was when he used to score for a couple of small budget films. He doesn't any more) also ranged from mediocre-to-average. These include:
  
  'Vandi Cholai Chinrasu' (except: Senthamizh NAttu)
  'Pudhiya MannargaL', (ex: kattum sElai)
  'Manitha Manitha' (dub?)
  'Ottam' (dub)
  'Super Police' (dub)
  'Asokan' (dub)
  
  
  Some albums were excellent overall, but had some heavy disappointments too:
  'AdippAru mangAtha', 'pAlakkAttu macchAnullu' (both from 'May Madham')
  'Chandi Rani' and 'Lucky Lucky' (both from 'Rakshagan')
  'Hello Doctor' ('KAdhal DEsam')
  'AyyO pathikkichu' (Rhythm)
  'September Matham' (Alay pAyuthey)
  
  However, considering the fact that he has so far scored for about 45 Tamil films (including the dubbed ones), the ratio of good Vs 'kuppai' songs is not bad at all.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: kk (@ 203.126.228.21) on: Tue Mar 27 04:50:59 EST 2001
  
  Kaveri, do you want the kuppai songs of IR? 98 percent of IR songs are kuppai yo kuppai perum kuppai.
  
  
• From: a former a r rahman fan !! (@ 202.9.147.92) on: Tue Mar 27 07:51:41 EST 2001
  
  hello everyone discussing about ar rahman's kuppai !!! a song is equal to kuppai once it has been copied or inspired by another song !! a r rahman fans check out dr. alban , enigma , chariots of fire , ace of base to name a few and then decide if u wanna continue to be his fan !!! copy copy copy !! the only difference between arr and others is that arr disguises his copy well with good music arrangements !!
  
  
• From: savukkadi singaram (@ 12.92.217.161) on: Tue Mar 27 21:21:24 EST 2001
  
  Neels,
  
  I have some disagreement with your good vs kuppai ratio.
  
  If we assume ARR has scored 50 films in 10 years, out of which 3*50 may be good i.e., 150 good vs 100 bad (assuming 5 songs each movie).
  
  Even if we consider IR has scored 4 kuppai songs each movie, IR has 800 good numbers so far.
  
  At this ratio ARR needs 60 years in his career to beat IR.
  
  
• From: Shankar Ramachandran (@ 209.92.60.250) on: Tue Mar 27 22:27:02 EST 2001
  
  ARR is good..But 2 days back I heard
  the music of "Hey Ram"....In Particular
  "Nee Partha" where piano,flute and other
  instruments made an ornament....Wow !!
  What a composition....My collegue
  who is an American stunned with that Music....
  I feel Kamal Hassan literally killed
  my making stupid seen(he takes always like
  Hollywood)kissing Rani Mukherjee
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Wed Mar 28 01:13:51 EST 2001
  
  s.singaram,
  Good observation. However, I wasn't trying to compare him with IR. All I was trying to do was to list his mediocre numbers, which is possible now, because he has barely scored for 45 films.
  Some of his best numbers are from very average to mediocre albums (like 'MalargaLe').
  
  Comparing him with IR (which seems inevitable in every thread ;), I agree that IR's earlier scores (his first 50 films) had very few mediocre numbers. However IR has been scoring indifferent to mediocre numbers of late, with sparks of brilliance in select albums. Hope he gets us back to the golden decades of the 70s and 80s soon!
  
  For this, he needs to work only with creative directors and producers that inspire him to come up with excellent scores (like his Malayalam 'Guru' and Tamil 'Bharati'). He also needs to look at good banners and music companies who can promote the songs well. The commercial aspect makes a lot of difference these days, at least in facilitating the 'REACH' of the songs to the masses.
  
  
• From: Punnakku (@ 202.139.118.253) on: Sat Mar 31 22:11:40 EST 2001
  
  Well done Kaveri..Sorry KUPPAYO KUPPAI KAVERI.
  I'm not sure whether you are KUPPAI male or KUPPAI female.So can we call you KUPPAI it(as in animals).
  Were you born in Kuppai family in KUPPAI STREET,KUPPAI KOTTAM?
  KUPPAI may sound suitable tobe your surname.
  
  Anyway what does a KUPPAI PORUKKI know about music! and work of a genius.
  
  
• From: Sekku (@ 205.227.43.11) on: Sun Apr 1 04:44:10 EDT 2001
  
  Can't resist this one:
  Poda Poda punnaakku... podatha thappu kanakku!
  
  Sorry punnakku!
  
  
• From: kk (@ 203.126.228.21) on: Tue Apr 3 05:52:40 EDT 2001
  
  nathurathri yamma I do not know who did this nasty kuppai?
  
  
• From: Anbu (@ 12.92.215.42) on: Tue Apr 3 10:17:24 EDT 2001
  
  Punnakku,
  
  Neengal oru "Anbu Naal Po Pandhu". If you don't understand translate into English.
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Tue Apr 3 10:59:15 EDT 2001
  
  Re: consistency and IR. I dont think one can expect all songs to be great from IR (now all those newbie HCIRFans hold it for a while). Even earlier films which had outstanding songs had very mediocre numbers. I think these songs are like a breather for him..just casual..fun songs. I think, he does not do any research or have any formula for a song. Whatever comes to his mind, he does. So some may not click. Einstein, does not come up with something like Theory of Relativity, every now and then. I think this is also the reason IR wants to do many films. This is how we were able to get a good variety of songs. We just have to ignore the mediocre and appreciate the good.
  I think ARR also deserves some room like this. Undue pressure, will prompt him to stick to tried and tested methodologies, which can make songs repetitive.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Tue Apr 3 12:09:18 EDT 2001
  
  kiru;
  
  i liked that explanation
  
  
  
• From: Punnaakku (@ 202.139.118.253) on: Sat Apr 7 21:42:14 EDT 2001
  
  Anbu
  Could you please translate your message for my understanding.Thanks in advance.
  
  Kiru
  Congratulations on your wonderful explanation.Hope Makku Sambranis like Sekku and Kaveri alike would get this message(Kiru's Explanation)clearly implanted in the God given damn brain.
  
  
• From: Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 12.92.216.56) on: Tue Apr 10 14:39:50 EDT 2001
  
  Another Kuppai,
  
  "Kaattu Panai maram pola Kaal valarndha raasa" - Vandicholai Chinnaraasu
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.130) on: Fri Apr 13 05:33:47 EDT 2001
  
  Most of the "Kuppai" numbers mentioned were good experimental dance numbers....I really liked their pop flavour and if I recall right these song were well received
  1.Kathirikka Kathirikka, 2.Rukkumani Rukkumani, 3.Parotta Parotta 4.pathikkichu pathikichu 5.Jumbalakka jumbalakka.... etc.....
  
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.130) on: Fri Apr 13 05:38:29 EDT 2001
  
  At first hearing I didn't like the above mentioned songs except for "Kathirikka Kathirikka"...but when you look at the innovative rhythms and beats...you understand that he has really tried to be different from what we have heard before....
  I used to wonder when I found IR songs going a bit stale why IR doesn't use the rhythms and beats from the bridges in his songs.....they were really innovative and could be used for composing separate songs....ARR did something similar....he really broke away from the stale trends...
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 64.166.86.69) on: Fri Apr 13 15:30:26 EDT 2001
  
  If I understand right, for IR, rhythm is just a vehicle to convey the melody. Ofcourse, he can compose innovative rhythms and he did. But the main course is the melody. It is the melody likely to stay in the mind than the rhythm. That is why the focus is on the melody. He even did not let his fascination for WCM get in the way of the melody (I noticed this - melody getting short shrift in the Phillip Glass and Ravi Shankar CD).
  Rhythmic songs will sell but wont stay in the mind.
  
  

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