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ARR is the KING of Theme Music while IR is the DON of BGM!

Topic started by Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on Mon Dec 9 09:44:19 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I feel IR is unmatchable in BGM, few of this examples are from the films "House Full", "Dalapathy", "Nayakan", and the list goes on........, while on the other hand ARR is the King, when it comes to theme music like "12ka4", "Ratchahan", "muthu", .....
any body agree with me?

Oh yes, I am great fan of both of them, so no fightings pls :))

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Responses:

• From: prasard (@ 64.231.118.59) on: Mon Dec 9 10:42:52 EST 2002
  
  are you kind of idiot or what
  arr and IR is same?????? hahahahaha
  what a jog
  
  
• From: prasard (@ 64.231.118.59) on: Mon Dec 9 10:44:56 EST 2002
  
  always IR is KING
  
  
• From: u dun no (@ 130.63.236.220) on: Mon Dec 9 11:17:30 EST 2002
  
  ARR KING 4EVA
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 192.128.166.68) on: Mon Dec 9 11:23:28 EST 2002
  
  Yeah, he is right in a way. What he says is IR is better than ARR in BGM, which I feel is true and ARR scores over IR when it comes to Theme music for films which again is true.
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 192.128.166.68) on: Mon Dec 9 11:25:09 EST 2002
  
  The reason for ARR shining better than IR in theme music could be attributed to his experience in composing for jingles where you have to come up with a theme and convey the feeling in a matter of 15-20 secs score which he has done brilliantly many times.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Mon Dec 9 11:26:58 EST 2002
  
  Prasad;
  
  u r the thick idiot around here, I pity such fools like u read my posting b4 making such bold & silly statements!
  
  let me correct your postings.
  
  >>are you kind of idiot or what >what a jog>always IR is KING <<
  
  it does not make sense, it should be like this;
  
  IR is always the King.
  
  get it thick idiot!
  
  
  
• From: curses (@ 219.65.108.92) on: Mon Dec 9 11:31:52 EST 2002
  
  uh uh ah!
  no fighting! :)
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Tue Dec 10 03:14:50 EST 2002
  
  I presume that this thread will get into old responses with out any blood shed.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Dec 10 05:10:10 EST 2002
  
  Maverick;
  
  thanks 4 agreeing with me. :)
  
  Curses;
  
  naa vambai vilaiku vaangha matten, aana vantha vambhai vidavum maaten
  
  aama ithai ungalukku engo ketta mathiri illai, hehe
  
  gatham gatham
  
  ellam maya chaya :)
  
  
• From: vrc (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Tue Dec 10 05:18:27 EST 2002
  
  Theme BGM vs. situation BGM - Please tell me:
  
  a) Which is difficult to compose
  b) Which requires more time from an MD to understand
  c) Which is more essential to the movie
  
  Then I will give my opinion.
  
  
• From: x (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Tue Dec 10 06:37:26 EST 2002
  
  IR is the KING of Theme Music and BGM!
  IR is the KING of Theme Music and BGM!
  
  
• From: muzammil (@ 80.15.43.132) on: Tue Dec 10 07:39:11 EST 2002
  
  stupit IR guys,heard all ARR film,ex:u heard LAGAAN it is elictric BGM,always ARR is a best BGM & he is KING in the india.
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.139.195) on: Tue Dec 10 08:09:48 EST 2002
  
  Vayila kambarkatt vechukittu pesina ippidi thaan vaarthaigal varum...
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 202.9.148.177) on: Tue Dec 10 08:36:08 EST 2002
  
  >>naa vambai vilaiku vaangha matten, aana vantha vambhai vidavum maaten ... aama ithai ungalukku engo ketta mathiri illai, hehe <<
  SPB ithai ellam koodavaa paataa paadi irukkaaru??! .... gr8 mannn :) ;)
  
  
• From: dinesh scaran (@ 210.186.42.97) on: Tue Dec 10 09:52:38 EST 2002
  
  RAHMAN IS NO 1 IN THE WORLD,THEME,BGM,MUSIC,SONGS, ETC ETC..NO ONE CAN BEAT HIM!!THE BEST!!EVEN HINDI LISTENERS R DANCING TO HIS TUNES!
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Dec 10 11:39:25 EST 2002
  
  Dinesh;
  
  >>EVEN HINDI LISTENERS R DANCING TO HIS TUNES!<<
  
  do hindi listners have horn on their heads?, y do we make a big deal about northies, they have less talented artists than the south!
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Wed Dec 11 02:51:01 EST 2002
  
  Once upon a time we too said that we don't care what western media says, we love our Tamil MD. But when a poll came in western media we did all the rigging, which even Ranbir Sena from Bihar couldn't match , to make our beloved Tamil MD to sustain lead.
  
  Internally we care about what others say, be it Hindi or western. lets not pretend to be smart okay. Either we need to be smart or jump into the competition and fight it out. How long can people tolerate philosophical speeches....
  
  Disclaimer:
  This post is to all the music fans like me...not directed to any artist in perticular.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138) on: Wed Dec 11 08:25:52 EST 2002
  
  JERRY LEWIS IS THE NUMBER ONE COMEDIAN IN THE WORLD. PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE...NOBODY CAN BEAT HIM. EVEN HINDI VIEWERS ARE LAUGHING SEEING HIM ACT!!!
  
  
• From: Fan (@ 203.124.234.166) on: Fri Dec 13 00:51:20 EST 2002
  
  Yes, of course, Mr.Raghu, Hindi listeners do have a horn in their heads, as they form a majority of the global listeners among the indian music lovers in the world. So, Hindi music lovers have to be kept in mind.
  
  In a way, you can say that they do have horns in their heads. They may have less talents than south, but their final verdict makes a lot of difference. I support Dinesh Scaran in this matter.
  
  IR was a king, now ..... haha now, I don't wanna say. IR and King, hahahahah.
  
  Some filtered idiots think that Ilayaraja is good, but he has exhausted his talents, he is no more hot as in the 70's and the 80's. Currently, he can only compose good music for some lousy village songs and stories. IR is totally WORST these days. A R Rahman RULES!!!. ARR even for village themes can compose good melodies like 'Thenmerkku paruva kaatru' and 'Pooralae ponnu thayee', from "Karuthamma". IR sucks. Why can't he stop. A R Rahman has gone internamtional and his musical 'Bombay Dreams' is being appreciated all over the world. It has crossed collections, more than 10 million pounds. Has IR ever gone beyond Tamil Nadu. IR hardly has any hits in Hindi.
  
  What ever people may say in this thread, A R Rahman RULES!!, IR sucks. Even Vidhyasagar and Mani Sharma's BGM's are better than IR these days. IR ruled in the 70's and the 80's. ARR ruled the 90's, rules the 2000's, and will continue to be a shining stone in many music lovers heart aroud the globe. Only, Rahman's Music breaks all language barriers.
  
  People who have'nt listened to ARR's BGM's please click here and listen to them. ARR's BGM in Dil se.., Alaipayuthey, Mudhalvan, Thiruda Thiruda, Jeans, Roja, Bombay are all unmatchable gems.
  
  http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/rahmanbgms/
  
  There was something different about his music.. which we all know. I realized I was Rahman's fan in '95 or so when I noticed all my all-time favorites, Roja, Humse hai muqabla, Bombay, Chor chor
  and stuff was composed by AR Rahman. And that was it, after that I bought every single Hindi album he came out with, and I noticed I was the only one buying Rahman's albums while all my other friends were listening to typical; anu malik and jatin lalit. In '97, I came to USA, I have been here ever since and I still am Rahman's die hard fan, after coming here I also got into Tamil music, I have every single hindi albuma and most of Rahman's Tamil albums . I don't understand a single tamil word but I still listen to it. I have seen Rahman go from Zero to Infinity..., He really got fame in the hindi industry with dilse and taal and with Bombay Dreams, he has just crossed limits. He does not sieze to amaze me everytime, but of course it's Rahman!. I believe each and every song composed by him is a master-piece in itself. All I have to say is, I think Rahman has achieved a feat no Indian composer has ever achieved or probably ever will. Now, if IR was anywhere near this..I would have definitely heard about him. I asked a lot of people here about IR and most of them have never heard of him, like myself. A couple people told me he is a well- known composer in the South. Rahman not only crossed the inter- state barrier but crossed the international barrier. IR is probably the best at what he does, but Rahman is the best all-rounder, b'cuz everytime he composes somethin... he Delivers!! as far as the BBC poll is concerned, it looks like a spam by some IR fan, with 50% votes, are u kiddin?, more than 50% of all voters listen to Tamil music?, if that's the case, then the poll is not even valid, cuz what happened to the rest of India? I'm still glad an Indian song tops the chart and Indian songs
  dominate the chart, but validity of the polls is still debatable.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Fri Dec 13 06:16:14 EST 2002
  
  Fan (@ 203.124.234.166)
  &
  Mus(@ 203.124.234.166)
  
  wow what an ARR fanatic, keep it up.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 64.129.181.69) on: Fri Dec 13 07:02:45 EST 2002
  
  hmm.... looks like HCIRFans will soon have "enough" competition :-).....
  
  
• From: AMUD (@ 202.9.180.248) on: Fri Dec 13 08:58:18 EST 2002
  
  EAST OR WEST ARR IS THE BEST
  
  
• From: ARR FAN (@ 64.231.116.101) on: Fri Dec 13 09:42:28 EST 2002
  
  FAN... GO AND HAVE SOME WATER... OHHHH MAN HAHAHA... IR FANS, PLEAZZZZZZ STOP!
  ARR IS JUST LIKE ANOTHER DEVA.....
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Sat Dec 14 02:19:42 EST 2002
  
  Sabs:
  
  Good sense of humour.
  
  
• From: skk (@ 202.9.176.145) on: Sat Dec 14 03:26:50 EST 2002
  
  The people who say much abt ARR r who hasn't listened to "HOW TO NAME IT" or "NOTHING BUT WIND". First hear those things and then talk abt IR. IR is on the PEAK. Nobody(Even KR or YSR or ARR) can beat him. Haven't you heard punnagai mannan's theme music or mounaragam's? Go hear all those things and then compare with ur Ratchagan/Jeans etc. Go ahead. IR is always a King. ARR is not bad.Ofcourse if IR is an emperor, ARR is a king.That's all. But we should feel very happy to have two world famous musicians from Tamilnadu.
  
  
• From: kumar (@ 202.9.176.145) on: Sat Dec 14 03:29:25 EST 2002
  
  Hear to the song "Kuluvalile.." from Muthu(Just the beats during the lines 'ranganayagi.. ranganayagi..',and then listen to Michael Jackson's albums "Dangerous" or "BAD". You'll see a similarity
  
  
• From: Michael Holding (@ 63.208.42.50) on: Sat Dec 14 03:54:15 EST 2002
  
  What is the difference between Theme music and BGM? You can come up with stupid explanations. Actually theme music is part of BGM. Theme music or BGM , Illayaraja is incomparable. The rest needs to go a long way in orchestration. Illayaraja is a master of all trades. ARR is jack of all trades. That is the difference.
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.5) on: Sat Dec 14 09:02:34 EST 2002
  
  kumar,
  So you say that Michael Jackson copied from Muthu song?:-))
  
  

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