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KAVIYARASU KANNADASAN

Topic started by On behalf of Sankar (@ 210.186.51.129) on Mon Dec 30 07:11:34 EST 2002.
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Kaaviyathayin Illaya magan
Kadhal Pengalin Perun thalaivan
Paamara jaadiyil thani manidan – naan
Padaippadhanal yen per Iraivan

Naan Manida jaadiyai aati vaipen – avar
Maandu vital adhai paadi vaipen
NAAN NIRANDARAM AANAVAN AZHIVADILAI
ENDA NILAYILUM ENAKKU MARANAM ILLAI

These are the great lines of Kaviyarasu Kannadasan in the movie Ratha Thilakam where he acts in the movie singing these lines. ( Song.. Oru Koopayilae yen kudiyiruppu)

What a visionary he was ? Indeed, he is NIRANDARAMAANAVAN.

I share some of my observations about Kavingyar. I want all the fans of HIM to join this discussion and add more quality material in praise of his great works.
This is the only way we pay tributes to this GENIUS.
WILL WE EVER GET BACK A KAVINGYAR LIKE KANNADASAN ??

Read the complete opening post here.

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• From: geeth (@ 195.39.134.84) on: Mon Apr 7 08:13:43 EDT 2003
  
  mahendra raj, that was a real interesting piece on Karuppu paNam and Paraskthi. never knew that the judge was Kaviarasar in parasakthi. would like to watch parasakthi for this court scene again.
  
  
• From: puvanes (@ 161.142.100.81) on: Mon Apr 7 10:01:10 EDT 2003
  
  last week i heard this song in iravin madiyil from the film vallavanukku vallavan.i think the lyricist is kannadasan.the song's lyrics has really nice santham and it doesn't repeat once more
  paaradi kanne konjam
  paitthiyamaanathu nenjam
  theduthadi malar manjam
  sirippukku ennadi panjam
  
  paitthiyame konjam nillu
  vaitthiyaridam poi sollu
  nerunggathe ithu mullu
  tharuvathai vaanggi kollu
  
  adada ithu enna kannaa
  nee antharalogathu penna
  .....................
  .................... (paaradi)
  
  aasayai paaradi thanggam
  ivar azhagillai aana singgam
  ....................
  ..................... (paithiyame)
  
  the md is veda who likes to lift tune from hindi
  the song was very very wonderful.all the modern theater's vallavan film songs have some nice songs
  vallavan oruvan
  
  innum paarthu kondirunthaal
  thottu thottu paadavaa
  palingginaal oru maaligai
  kaalai neram oruvan vanthaan
  oh ammamma kannatthil kannam
  
  vallavanukku vallavan
  
  oraayiram parvayile
  kandaalum kandene unpole
  paaradi kanne konjam
  pozhthum vidiyum
  
  iru vallavargal
  
  naan malarodu thaniyaaga
  kua kua paapa
  aasaaya kobamaa
  
  does all these songs penned by kannadasan?
  any stories on kannadasan - veda?
  
  
• From: R. Mahendra Raj (@ 203.106.49.35) on: Mon Apr 7 11:14:23 EDT 2003
  
  Thanks Geeth and do let me know because I saw it a long time ago.
  
  Puvanes, in the sixties and seventies kaviarasar was almost 'bonded' with Modern Theatres Ltd. Therefore, all the songs mentioned by you are by kaviarasar.
  
  "Kaalai neram oruvan vanthanaan" is from the late Jai Shankar's first film 'Iravum Pagalum' (1964) and the lyricist is not Kannadhasan but someone else.
  
  "Paaradi kannae konjam" is by Kannadhasan and the tune, as usual was lifted from a popular Hindi ghazal song.
  
  Sorry, Vedhachaalam (Veda) maintained a low profile in the industry and there was not much news about him, let alone his relationship with kaviarasar. Perhaps, Mani could throw some light.
  
  Somewhere in late 1972 and early 1973 a group of political extremists who claimed to be aethists started to destroy the idols and statues in temples. This news angered peace-loving people as well as temple goers.
  
  Saavi, a well-known veteran journalist who was the editor of 'Dhinamani Kadhir' telephoned kaviarasar. The former expressed his anger over the disgusting behaviour of these anti-social elements and asked kaviarasar to write a serial for his paper. The idea was to propogate the goodness of Hindu religion and at the same time counter the atrocities of thewse anti-social elements. Kaviarasar agreed in principle and to a question by Saavi as to the title he answered in spontanity "Arthamulla Inthu Matham". Thus the now famous title was born over the telephone. The serials became so popular that they were subsequently reprinted into books for sale to the general public.(As what I understand the volumes are still in demand).
  
  Around this time, the extremists even went to the extent of being physical with Girubanantha Vaariyar (late), the modern disciple of Lord Muruga. When kaviarasar heard about this incident he telephoned him from outstations and later rushed to the former's house to inquire his well-being. Kaviarasar shed tears upon seeing the abrasions inflicted on Vaariyar's body.
  
  When he was booked to write songs for 'En Magan' (1973) he wrote "Neengal atthanai peyrum utthamarthaana sollungal" hitting at those extremists as well as those who instigate them. The latter, although seen as aethists in public, were hypocrites as they consult astrology, vaasthu etc. and all things connected to Hinduism on the quiet. One can feel the anger and fury of kaviarasar through this song.
  
  Coming back to Vaariyar - kaviarasar was very close with him and they both used to consult each other on various topics. Both had a keen sense of humour and were known for their witticism. Both had complimented each other publicly and in publications. Vaariyar had even written prefaces for kaviarasar's books including 'Arthamulla Hindu Madham'.
  
  When Devar produced the film 'Thunaivan' (1969) it was kaviarasar who coerced Vaariyar to do a cameo role. Initially he declined because of his image but upon kaviarasar's insistence he relented when told that his role was that of propagating Lord Muruga. Prior to this Vaariyar was involved in the anonymous scriptwriting of 'Sivagami' (1959).Incidentally this was the last film for MK Thiagarajah Bhagavathaar.
  
  It was also for 'Thunaivan' where kaviarasar introduced the cute Baby Sridevi to Devar and persuaded him to give her a chance to act as the child Lord Muruga. When Sridevi became a national star there was a joke going around to the effect that Sridevi had had acted 'topless' - in the movie 'Thunaivan' as the bare-chested Lord Murugan, of course!!
  
  See you again folks!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.171) on: Mon Apr 7 15:06:22 EDT 2003
  
  Great going, Mahendra Raj!
  
  Btw, Alangudi Somu was the lyricist for Iravum Pagalum songs.
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Mon Apr 7 23:35:47 EDT 2003
  
  
  Mahendraraj,
  
  Merritorious work!. I prefer to be a silent reader, as your series are flowing like Niagara Falls.
  
  Perhaps I may want to add a few lines. kannadasan produced the Ratha Thilakam as a patriotic work during the Indo-China War period of 1962. The screening of the movie was called off within a two week run as the war had just concluded. When the movie was first screened, it was discovered that the China flag was shown flying upside down. Immediately, a proper shot of the flag was made and rushed to all the cinema halls in Chennai area and slotted at the appropriate scene. Another Avasar buthi case of Kannadasan. But what happened to the censorship Board then?
  
  
  The film Thaye Unakkaga was a remake of Ballade of a Soldier. The dialogues are more poetical in style. Someof Kannadasan's best songs are in the movie.
  
  
  About Karuppu Panam, it is true that someone carried tale to MGR, that the movie was intended to belittle and smear the good name of MGR. However, MR Radha refused to act giving reasons of poor story line. Kannadasan went ahead and hit MGR in this song:
  
  Kayile Panam Irunthaal kazhuthai Kooda Arasanadi
  kai Thatta Aalirunthaal kakkai Kooda Rasiganadi
  
  Kannadasan also had a vested interest in taking the movie. He wanted to "promote" KR Vijaya who was a newcomer, causing waves after waves. kannadasan went out of equilibrium. He used to admire the smile of KR Vijaya. In one of his talks in Butterworth, he said that he simply loved the smile of KR Vijaya. In another article he says that the smile of a lady with dark complexion is the most beautiful and matchless.
  
  
  Mahendraraj, the movie did not fare very well at the box office, but it was worth for Kanndasan to have invested in KRV . Please speak to M. Dhurairaj for details that I cannot explain here. Kannadasan himself is an opne book.
  
  There is a song in the movie, where a Thalaivi (KRV)shares her secret affairs with her Thozhi:
  
  Ammamma Keladi Thozhi Sonnaane Aayiram Seithi
  Kannale Kandathu Paathi-Sollamal Ponathu Meethi
  
  (The thozhi whispers)
  
  LRE was asked to use a voice of a 16 year old lady, which she did very well.
  
  Of course the other melodious gems are:
  
  1.Thangachi Chinna Ponnu Thalkai Enna Saayuthu
  
  2. Aada Varalaam Aada varalaam
  
  3. Pattu CHiragu Kond ChittukUruvi Onnu
  
  4. Ellorum Ellaamum Pra VEndum
  
  
  Veda was the favourite of Modern Theatres productions- especially those dubbed from hindi movies. But Modern Theatres did go for other MDs too on an off and on basis.
  
  
  In the film Vallavanukku Vallavan Nadigayar Thilakam appears briefly, but her still was used for the advertisement of the movie to pull the crowd. In the movie Kannippenn MGR bet the club to start off the movie, and his still was used for the advertisement of that movie.
  
  Mahendraraj.
  
  In Thunaivan I saw Sri Devi topless. In 16 vayathiniley whe was a dream queen of many. This physical evolution of Sri Devi was well described by a kindal poet as follows:
  
  Thunaivan padathil Sri Deviyai Kumbida thOniyathu
  16 vayathinile Kooppida thOniyathu.
  
  Mahendraraj, you may want to share with us how Sri Devi came into the cine world through Kannadasan.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: raj (@ 202.54.137.90) on: Tue Apr 8 02:21:08 EDT 2003
  
  Vallavanukku Vallavan - Oor aayiram paarvayile & Manam ennum medai mele were the best among all other songs.
  
  All Veda-Kannadasan combo songs were superb
  
  The one which i can Never Forget is
  "Naan Malarodu thaniyaaga yen ingu" from Iru vallavargal.
  
  The usage of words like " pon vandondru malar endru Mugathodu modha
  Naan valai konda kayyale Medhuvaaga mooda
  en karunkoondhal kalaindhodi megangal aaga
  naan bayandhodi vandhen unnidam unmai koora "
  
  was excellent..
  
  Also in "saravana Poigayil" where in he uses
  "avanidam sonnen en anjudhalai.. annale thandhan aaru thalai .. ividham naan kanda inba nilai...
  
  Wow!! Born Genius...he is..
  
  
• From: puvanes (@ 161.142.100.81) on: Tue Apr 8 02:32:38 EDT 2003
  
  anyone can input info on kannadasan's first film kanniyin kaathali.the actors in the movie, the md and other important persons behind the screen.who is incharge of introducing kannadasan to tfm?
  
  

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