Topic started by TAMILAN (@ 210.186.29.196) on Sat Oct 6 05:42:31 EDT 2001.
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6 months ago , i heard that ilaiyaraja had booked for a hollywood movie as a music director but now he had dropped from that film.this all is because the director of the hollywood movie didn't likes the sample tunes that done by ilaiyaraja.after heard about ar rahman's scoreplay in michael jackson's new album song = EKAM SATYAM and about that arr had booked for shakespeare drama in london ,they had booked rahman in their film.AR RAHMAN WOULD SCORE HIS MUSIC FOR THIS FILM IN HIS MUSIC STUDIO IN LONDON.THE DIRECTOR SAID THAT HE COULD NOT SEARCH FOR A ANOTHER COMPOSER THAN RAHMAN BECAUSE RAHMAN IS JUST A VERY INTELLIGENT FELLOW.HE KNOWS ALL MUSIC EITHER MODERN OR CLASSICAL.RAHMAN HIS VOICE OF MUSIC.
AS A CONCLUSION AR RAHMAN IS A VERY INTELLIGENT AND SMART MUSIC COMPOSER IN ALL OVER THE WORLD...
ILAIRAJA COULD NOT BE COMPARED WITH THE GENIUS AR RAHMAN.
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- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sat Oct 6 05:51:01 EDT 2001
Ok Tamilan, a few clarifications to validate this story. What movie is this, who's the director, which Hollywood company is involved?
- From: satyan (@ 63.109.251.99)
on: Sat Oct 6 06:06:47 EDT 2001
Tamilians are known for tasting good music. when seeing the comparison made by TAMILIAN...it is
ridiculous. I think he has to improve a lot. I just pity on him. May god bless him to come out of the nut shell.
- From: Koravan (@ 210.84.144.220)
on: Sat Oct 6 11:18:09 EDT 2001
With the flash news I received, I received a few minutes ago, the name of the Hollywood movie is, "English Rhymes for junior KG". All the polular rhymes will be featured in this movie and no wonder it will be a cake walk to ARR.
- From: BBCNEWS (@ 202.9.148.106)
on: Sat Oct 6 12:09:25 EDT 2001
FLASH NEWS : BBC NEWS:" WE WANT MD,S WITH 3YR OLD CHILDS KNOWLEDGE AND BRAIN AND HENCE WE CHOSE ARR AND WE CUD NOT CHOOSE IR SINCE HE WAS A LEGEND,WE DROPPED HIM
- From: RealDeal (@ 24.15.81.189)
on: Sat Oct 6 12:42:16 EDT 2001
First tamilian so his ignorance and then you guys over do him in that aspect, Grow up guys!!!
Let this forum be used to discusss meaningful music and songs in TFM.
We all know both Raja and Rahman have talent or otherwise they would not be able to create music and sustain at this highest level. So please appreciate them and not try to pull down them down for you own childish pursuits
- From: 12bums (@ 203.200.15.20)
on: Sat Oct 6 13:24:56 EDT 2001
After all nursery rhymes already have established tunes and is easier to copy!
- From: Pardhu (@ 202.54.26.125)
on: Sat Oct 6 14:35:51 EDT 2001
Why should we fight on the topic of who is great ?
Both the MDs have created masterpieces. Any way
it's quite ridiculous to under-estimate IR's
genius before ARR. IR has proved himself again
and again. Even great musiclogists agree with this.
Let us enjoy the music magic of both the virtuosos.
- From: rf (@ 172.155.116.174)
on: Sat Oct 6 18:38:38 EDT 2001
This reminds me of a famous exclamation from an senile Aristotle (of Greece): Drop a red hot brick! One of his faithfuls, an idiot savant (a geek from geece) asked: Where, my revered Sir? Upon which the famous Greek is supposed to have responded after a few thoughtful moments: "Arisole, not where but upon whom? Upon which Arsole eagerly asked, "Upon whom, my dear reverend guru? Upon which query, the revered philosopher said: "Hey Asole, Upon Tamilan..."
- From: Music_Fan (@ 202.56.194.147)
on: Sun Oct 7 01:47:00 EDT 2001
why should anyone bother about a insignificant worthless "yaervaadi cases" like TAMILAN, when the whole world is awaiting to ilaiyraja's and rehman's works....both raja and rehman are world class music creators in their own way...ilaiyaraaja once told about rehman," rombu nalla music panugirar...nalla varuvaar."...and rehman has told about raja," ilaiyaraja has everything already worked out in his mind..when he comes to the studio, he just executes what he has in his mind...his inji idhupazhaga song is my all time favourite...a lion is a lion, a tiger is a tiger."
Here is a commnetary on ilaiyaraaja, by learned people ( unlike tamilan)
SEMANGUDI SRINIVASA AYYAR - " Raja has that unique gift to please common man and carnatic experts alike.Until recently, I knew that Shri Ilayaraaja is a great film music director - his expertise in diluting Carnatic Ragas without diluting their native merits, is well known to me - but recently I had the oppurtunity to listen to him sing a few kirthanas - he sang a kirthana in Raag Abhogi - very well rendered - in Carnatic Sangeet, one needs to know the Sahityam - without knowing it, one should not sing it making it sound absurd - Isai gyani Shri.Ilayaraaja sang it very beautifully and his grasp of the Sahityam is commendable. After today, I realise that Shri.Ilayaraaja is a thorough expert in Carnatic music. May the God Almighty bless Isai Gyani with a long life so that he can render a long service to music "
LARY BAIN( England Based Composer)-"He is unbelievable, genius and fantastic"
LALGUDI JAYARAMAN - " His talent is not the fruit of one single birth's efforts. This level of achievement is only possible to one who has lived with music for countless births. The speed with which he writes notations have always baffled me "
Dr.BALAMURALIKRISHNA -" As far as i am concerned, i would say Ilaiyaraja is the composer of the century. If there is one single authority on 'orchestration' it can only be ilaiyaraja.
K.J.YESUDASS - "There is infinite music forms that is hidden in this man's heart. All that should flow-out for the good of mankind."
VAALI (South Indian Lyricist/Poet) - " Reethigowlai, Hamsanatham, Bilahari etc are some of the ragas that he has deftly handled for film music. He is not isaignani, he is swaragnani."
ZUBIN MEHTA Music Conductor,( Israel Philharmonic)- " I was bewildered after listening to his 'nothing but wind' and 'how to name it'. He belongs to the 21st century and perhaps beyond."
DIRECTOR BHARATHIRAAJA - " I shoot scenes with a particular impact in mind. And even before i discuss about what i have in mind, he is already ready with mind boggling BGM bits.( In that programme Bharathiraaja explained about special 'mudhal mariyaathai' film scenes with wide eyes and astonishment)"
DIRECTOR R.V.UDAIYAKUMAR - "He was writing the background score for Chinna Kounder. In a particular scene i had made a very glaring error in designing the flow of shots. He asked me why i was a bit moody. I said i have made a mistake in choosing the shots. He simply said - I just now corrected your mistake with the BGM. Listen to this !!"
DIRECTOR MANIRATNAM - "Illaiyaraja is absolutely prolific. He is an amazing talent who believes that the music written down by him should be stuck to totally. And then it is recorded which is just a matter of execution. I wish I could be like Ilaiyaraja and work out everything on paper."
JOSEPH EAGER, Conductor, World Symphony Orchestra -"His music will be heard through the twenty-first century" predicted at a function to release the CD of his album Nothing But Wind in New York in 1988.
VICTOR RANGEL RIBEIRO, a well-known musicologist and author of Baroque Music - "Your ears will hear music like they never heard before"
STEPHEN DAVIS of New Age - "He is leading us to a very special world of music appreciation and has opened doors of new horizons of new age music"
Prof. SHERYAR OOKERJEE, a Bombay based musicologist writes,"Bach's influence is deep and all pervasive in his music. He is adept at using conventional western harmony and standard western techniques. Uses dialogue and imitation extensively. He has a competent grasp of the orchestra. His conspicuous quality is his ability to so integrate the Indian and western idioms that the seams can hardly be noticed and the result is usually pleasant, charming and satisfying. Ilaiyaraaja's music is enjoyable and worth taking very seriously. It grows on one with repeated hearings".
DIRECTOR, ACTOR PAARTHIBAN - " Isai alias raja, raja alias isai."
DIRECTOR, ACTOR KAMALHAASAN - ",Ilaiyaraja should be honored as Isai Vigyani (musical scientist) rather than Isai gyani.He has explored and analyzed virtually every type of music.I have worked with several composers. But this man is on his own trip - he is a colossal talent. We have worked together in around 70 films and we know each other's requirements and expectations very well. He saw the rushes of the film (Hey Ram!) just once and immediately decided the music to be scored for the song sequences that have already been picturised. I told my film crew to give me a week's time and that I will come back with one song in that time - instead I came back with seven songs."
HARIHARAN, Playback Singer,"Ilaiyaraja's style is very different. He has been heavily influenced by the classical compositions of Mozart and Bach."
LASLOV KOVACH, Conductor, (Budapest Symphony Orchestra, Hungary) - ," He is Hollywood Kind."
RAJKUMAR SANTOSHI, Director (on Lajja's Background music by Maestro Ilayaraaja) - ,"The discipline of the 90 musicians, the conductor and the recording engineers of the Budapest Symphony Orchestra in Hungary was overwhelming. The musicians gave a standing ovation after recording the scores."
MARK LAYCOCK, (Director of Orchestral Activities, Iowa State University, Iowa, United States of America),"A fascinating blend of Eastern and Western styles. The music is instantly appealing -- rhythmically, harmonically, formally. The use of traditional Indian instruments in a modern musical context makes for a rich palette of tone colors and creates a wide range of expressive possibilities."
NAUSHAD ALI (doyen of hindi film music)- ,"That this man has achieved is 100 times more than what any of us have achieved; only time can tell the quantum of his achievements."
HARIPRASAD CHAURASIA, (exponent of Hindustani Classical Music) - ," It is a treat watching him (Mr.Ilayaraaja) work - he does everything, composing, arrangement of instruments, orchestration and conducting - that too without the help of any assistants and a stopwatch."
L.SUBRAMANIAM (Violin Maestro)-,"Ilayaraaja is as good as any composer in the world."
newtfmpage visitors should avoid topics that compare legends like rehman & IR.....just engage in positive discussion...
- From: Madhav (@ 62.7.37.231)
on: Sun Oct 7 05:13:39 EDT 2001
Very well said Music fan.
I agree wholeheatredly with you and the music greats with the same opinion.
- From: Madhav (@ 62.7.37.231)
on: Sun Oct 7 05:13:56 EDT 2001
Very well said Music fan.
I agree wholeheartedly with you and the music greats with the same opinion.
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