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Karthikeyan Nagarajan | April 24, 2004 11:12 IST
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/apr/24rahman.htm
When I heard that the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra had asked A R Rahman to conduct two live concerts in March this year, I was very happy and proud as an Indian and a Tamilian.
Earlier, I had felt proud in 1993 when Ilayaraja had recorded his first classical orchestral work with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra of London. I was executive producer of that project.
It was Ilayaraja's first full-fledged classical work and it was recorded under the baton of John Scott. Unfortunately, Ilayaraja has still not released that work.
Hence to know that another composer from our midst has come to the world music arena was thrilling news. Rarely do musicians from our part of the world get such an opportunity.
But it was a big fiasco.
Rahman's popular film songs were converted into orchestral scores to be played by a classical symphony orchestra. They proved to be pale shadows of his original songs. And the predominantly Indian crowd did not appreciate them much.
It was obvious that not much thought had gone into the score. The objective should have been to retain the original melodic flavour suited to a symphony orchestra without electronic instruments and vocals.
Greater disappointment was his total non-preparation for conducting on stage. I consider that highly irresponsible. If Rahman thought conducting a symphony orchestra in concert was similar to a studio session, the people who risked allowing him to do it should be blamed.
I am surprised he has not fully understood the importance of the role of a conductor in a classical symphony orchestra.
Conducting is one of the most important aspects in a classical orchestra's live performance. People like Zubin Mehta have not become legends for nothing. Zubin is one of those rare talents who will conduct even the most difficult and complex symphonies like Mahler's 8th Symphony -- called the Symphony of a Thousand because Mahler's original debut concert required nearly 1,000 performers-musicians and choral groups -- without once referring to the score. Every bar of music is conducted from his memory, with total control and confidence of the orchestra.
As someone who has spent a lot of time on the UK music circuit over the last few years, I assumed Rahman would have done his homework and prepared the music as well as for his new role as conductor of a live concert, that too with a top-notch orchestra like the CBSO.
Rahman should have reminded himself that he was going to wield the baton of Sir Simon Rattle, who became CBSO conductor at 25 (in 1980) and made it one of the best orchestras in the world.
As a BBC reviewer wrote, "I cannot help feeling cheated by the concert. Though the orchestra were highly organised, Rahman seemed slightly uninterested to be there. Audience reactions were also mixed. The audiences were given opportunity to ask him questions to which he often replied with one-word answers. Rahman did conduct the orchestra for a short period, but later sat back with the audience and watched another conduct his music."
As with anywhere else in the West, most orchestras are going through a difficult time with dwindling concert attendances and slow music sales. Add to this the problem of population remix among local patrons.
By 2020, for example, Birmingham is tipped to become the first black majority city in UK. Now, its population is a mix of Asians, Africans and Chinese apart from the native whites.
Hence, orchestras are ready to try anything to bring people into the concert halls. And collaborations with musicians from Asia, titled Classic Asia, are part of the mission.
For the 84 year-old CBSO, it must have been a momentous, difficult decision. They took it because their survival depends on their ability to chart new paths.
With his exposure to the UK music industry through his collaboration with Andrew Lloyd Webber, it was not a surprise that Rahman got the project.
But his botching it up is.
I believe Rahman has not been able to transcend the barrier where his own singing and others are vital for his musical pieces. Obviously, there is an inability to compose music free of the composer/performer. He seems to have attempted something for which he is not yet ready intellectually.
In the end it was totally disappointing.
Rahman's confession -- "I messed it up. Will come next time with much more preparation" -- does not redeem him at all.
Karthikeyan Nagarajan is a Chennai-based software technologist.
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- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:08:11 EDT 2004
"u guys make others laugh"
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on: Wed Apr 28 03:10:12 EDT 2004
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- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.244)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:11:28 EDT 2004
//When pigs fly bots can think :)
i see neither of it happening!
Shiva shambo.//
Haha,atleast now you got my point that Ambleen must be a bot.
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:12:41 EDT 2004
Thamizhan,
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on: Wed Apr 28 03:13:07 EDT 2004
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- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.244)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:14:55 EDT 2004
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on: Wed Apr 28 03:15:39 EDT 2004
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- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:16:17 EDT 2004
same pinch???.....athu valikumme?
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:16:48 EDT 2004
Thamizhan,
Operation-a? LASER vechu naera kanna kuththi vittudalaam! :P
Btw...bots paththi appadi pesaatheenga...enakku bots pidikkum :-(
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:17:34 EDT 2004
"same pinch???.....athu valikumme?"
Valikkarthukku dhaaney kashta pattu killardhu! :-)
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:19:20 EDT 2004
apparom yenpa..Salt-te kude pinch panrange....?
"pinch of salt"?....paavom uppuku valikatha?
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:19:56 EDT 2004
Paran,
Kannu-la ennapa male kannu, female kannu-nu vidhyasam irukka? Illa Dr.Muthu-ku ponnungana koochama? :-)
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:20:38 EDT 2004
Dr.Muthu-ku ponnungane allergy
- From: Jacky (@ 61.2.225.223)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:20:42 EDT 2004
Paran,
Are you by any chance related 2 Maneka Gandhi?
:)
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.244)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:21:44 EDT 2004
Ayoh,paavam
Ambleen e kannu theriyama kasta paduraar.
LASER use panneenga appuram he will tell something like
Deva is much much better than ARR.Paavam vaendaam.
Appuram bots la ye kooda good bots,bad bots yella irukku..paathu nadanthukonga.
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:22:52 EDT 2004
Jacky....how old is Maneka Gandhi...it's a SHE or HE?
if SHE and SHE is around 20 to 24 years old....than i might know her?...heheh
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:22:57 EDT 2004
Paran,
Salt-a pinch pannardhu bali kudukkara maadhiri. Adha killi vali-na ennanu adhukku mudhal-la theriya vekkarom. Appo dhaan adhu vayathukulla porachae kashtam-na ennanu therinju adhellam overcome panna try pannum. Overcome senju, vidudhalai petru, kaarthaala liquid form-la veliya varum! :-)
- From: Jacky (@ 61.2.225.223)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:23:47 EDT 2004
Paran,
her son might be 24!
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:24:10 EDT 2004
c~P...ore oru pinch-la ivvalo story-a?...
can we approach Rajni or Vijaykanth for a movie?
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:25:35 EDT 2004
appona avunga oru AMMA mathiri-ya?...
anyway..she might have nother daugther rite?
- From: J@cky (@ 61.2.225.223)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:26:56 EDT 2004
athuku cp ya than kekanum!
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.244)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:27:47 EDT 2004
Well,let's write a script for the Pinch story paa.
Ambleen vandhu Music IR dhaan podanumnu solvaar.
Namkku ARR,IR yellam costly,simple a Sirpi a vachu mudichirallam.
Padam super a odum.
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:28:10 EDT 2004
C~P-kum Maneka Gandhi-kum yenna sammantham?...
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.223)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:29:35 EDT 2004
CP ku thaney indian politicians pathi theriyum.
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:30:22 EDT 2004
SIRPI-YA...aiyooorombe costly...
i know a guy..called ILAYARAHMANISHARMA...very good in cutting, vetting, otting, and All-in-all
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:31:10 EDT 2004
C~P-ku innum olunga..."urine"-ne poga teriyathu...avarukku poyi Indian Politic-a?!!???!!
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.244)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:31:30 EDT 2004
Maneka Gandhi yaaru...
Indha animals and all liking nu namma INDIAN Manisha maadhiri oruthanga irupaangale...
Avangadhaane...Paavam avangalukku vayasu aayiduchu..vidungalen.
- From: Jacky (@ 61.2.225.223)
on: Wed Apr 28 03:31:49 EDT 2004
Tamizhan,
Ippo cp sapta apparam vandu ezuthuvan.
athu varai porumai erumaiyai vida periyathu :)
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