Topic started by Guru (@ 129.49.81.60) on Thu Sep 5 21:29:38 EDT 2002.
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Ok..Guys...I feel like committing suicide when I hear Rahman being branded Eastern or Asian Mozart. Why all this hype and why all of a sudden this worthless comparison?
Comment on this guys!
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- From: siva siva (@ 61.11.56.47)
on: Thu Aug 12 11:25:10 EDT 2004
Rajasaranam,
Kanavu nenaivagum! one day IR will get a National award again, then Padmashri, then IR will go to Newyork and London, IR will walk in the I-day parade in newyork.
IR will sell more than britney and maddona!
This will happen.
hope is life.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 156.153.255.243)
on: Thu Aug 12 22:56:03 EDT 2004
RajaSarnam
Irukeengala?.. how is life!!.. inga vandhu summa IR pathiyum ARR pathiyum solli, solli nonthu poga vendiyathuthaan.. vidunga.
- From: Kiran (@ 219.94.127.68)
on: Thu Aug 12 23:49:12 EDT 2004
AR ASIAN MOZART ??? CRAZY .....HA HA HAA....
HE IS JUST BIG HIT FILM MUSIC DIRECTOR WHO IS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL......HIS TYPE IS LIKE PROGRAMMING MUSIC .....MAY BE HE CAN BECOME ONE MORE YANNI BUT NEVER MOZART OR BEETHOVAN ETC...
FOR MOZART ,BEETHOVEN , ILAYARAJA ETC ....MUSIC FLOWS OUT FROM THEIR HEART TO A DOCUMENT AND WHICH IS READ AND PLAYED BY ORCHESTRA IN A GRAND , PRINCIPLED AND SYSTEMATIC STYLE.....
- From: rsj (@ 203.101.71.2)
on: Fri Aug 13 01:59:11 EDT 2004
arr is one of the best in india
- From: chris (@ 66.119.34.39)
on: Fri Aug 13 02:46:16 EDT 2004
IR fans i lose respect for u everytime ut ry to project IR as God or better than ARR, coz its fact our ARR is at the top of the game, if ARR was up against IR even in the 80s, ARR would have beaten him, its assumable. why dont u be like us and love music and not discriminate
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Fri Aug 13 03:32:29 EDT 2004
Kiran:
"FOR MOZART ,BEETHOVEN , ILAYARAJA ETC"
Eventhough I am a hardcore fan of ARR, I also basically dont agree to comparing him with Mozart.
But ranking Ilayaraja with Mozart and Beethovan, c'mon Kiran are you mad or something? After all he is just a music director that too within South India.
But Mozart and Beethoven are some of world's best composers. The world knows them. The most popular Indian composer outside India is A R Rahman. But even that wont take him into the ranks of Mozart and Beethoven.
So try to accept facts. Dont be blinded with IR devotion. His golden age has ended.
- From: ARR FAN (@ 212.138.64.172)
on: Fri Aug 13 03:54:53 EDT 2004
PLEASE DONT READ THE ABOVE AS SOME MENTALLY DISTORTED PEOPLES ARE TAKING.
- From: chris (@ 170.224.224.102)
on: Fri Aug 13 04:38:36 EDT 2004
Why cannot ARR be compared to Mozart?? He's only started to grow in the international sphere, give it some time, after LOTR, he will reach further markets and take indian western fusion into new dimensions, no other indian composer has promoted indian music the way ARR has, face it IR fanz, i only see HJ, YSR and up and comming Jassie Gift as competitors to ARR, IR is not one.
- From: ... (@ 216.148.246.134)
on: Fri Aug 13 04:43:37 EDT 2004
FOR MOZART ,BEETHOVEN , ILAYARAJA ETC ....MUSIC FLOWS OUT FROM THEIR HEART TO A DOCUMENT AND WHICH IS READ AND PLAYED BY ORCHESTRA IN A GRAND , PRINCIPLED AND SYSTEMATIC STYLE.....
u utter moron Kiran how can u say that??? u ignorant insensitive fool, enna ongeda problem uh? arr fans respect ir..arr is one who makes music spiritually. he says so himself
- From: August (@ 202.54.153.21)
on: Fri Aug 13 04:45:33 EDT 2004
"His golden age has ended"
As if mozart,beethoven etc are still composing.
"all he is just a music director that too within South India"
As if mozart,beethoved travelled across world and spread their music.
"The most popular Indian composer outside India is A R Rahman"
its like saying the most popular cricketer in the world is Sachin,so he is better than Bradman.
Cigarette is more popular than cod liver oil capsules
- From: Kiran (@ 219.94.127.68)
on: Fri Aug 13 06:16:48 EDT 2004
GUYS DISCUSS WITHOUT LOOSING TEMPER.....OR WE WILL BE ENDING UP SHOUTING ON EACH OTHER LIKE DOGS ....
GUYS BY SAYING IR, MOZART , BEETHOVAN I WAS GROUPING THEM BASED ON "TYPES"/"CATEGORIES".....
LUCKY WE GOT IR WHO IS OF THAT TYPE ....I WAS NOT GROUPING THEM ON TALENT ......EVEN MANIRATHNAM TOLD IR S MUSIC IS WRITTEN ON DOCUMENT AND THEN PLANNED FOR CONDUCTING.....
BUT AR S "TYPE" IS NOT OF THESE PPL S SORT....HE PROGRAMMES MAKES .....
NOTHING OFFENSIVE AGAINS AR ...BUT HIS IS DIFFERENT CUP OF TEA......
AND AS FAR AS FAME IS CONCERNED THAT S NOT IMPORTANT.....IF WORLD DOESNT KNOW THYAGARAJA
HE DOESNT BECOME LOW.....
IF A GREAT STORY IS TOLD IN TAMIL, THEN ONLY TAMIL PPL WILL LIKE IT , IF ITS TOLD IN ENGLISH WHOLE WORLD WILL LIKE IT ......
THAT S THE DIFFERENCE IN IRS AND ARS MUSIC....IRS MUSIC IS OF REGIONAL TYPE AND ARS IS GENERAL TYPE .....SO IRS DEFINELTY CANNOT REACH WORLD LIKE ARS ......IF U WEAR A JEANS UNIVERSALLY U WHOLE WORLD CAN TAKE YOU .....IF YOU WEAR DHOTI ITS NOT THE CASE......
AR TYPE IS JEANS SO HE IS GOING AROUND THE WORLD ...IRS TYPE IS DHOTI ...SO HE WILL REMAIN LOCAL ......BUT U CANNOT SAY JUST BECAUSE PPL KNOW JEANS ITS GREAT THAN DHOTI
- From: August (@ 202.54.153.21)
on: Fri Aug 13 06:43:52 EDT 2004
Can anyone please translate the above post by Kiran in English? Thanks.
- From: August (@ 202.54.153.21)
on: Fri Aug 13 06:46:09 EDT 2004
"IF U WEAR A JEANS UNIVERSALLY U WHOLE WORLD CAN TAKE YOU "
this is one of the most hilarious statements i hav seen in newtfmpage for quite some time.Kiran, keep them coming !!
I cud get 7 interpretations out of that single sentence.Oru post'kku oru sentence padham !!
- From: August (@ 202.54.153.21)
on: Fri Aug 13 06:48:25 EDT 2004
ROTFL :-)))))
How can one wear a jean universally?
I think what kiran meant was a very big jean which can take the whole universe into it.
so if i wear tshirt only half the world can take me?
- From: rambham (@ 193.88.72.212)
on: Fri Aug 13 08:14:00 EDT 2004
Kiran, chill man. What is the need to shout? Don't u know it is indecent to post in CAPS?
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:28:45 EDT 2004
"As if mozart,beethoved travelled across world and spread their music. "
They didnt have to do that. Their music did that while IRs songs just stayed in the South. The best examples would be his hindi compositions. And what ARR did in hindi is a well known fact.
"its like saying the most popular cricketer in the world is Sachin,so he is better than Bradman. "
I wont say that. But I can certainly say that Sachin is the most popular Indian cricketer in the world and he is better than Gavaskar, Vengsarkar or Amarnath.
I hope you understand the difference between ARR and IR.
- From: hehehewalrus (@ 130.127.105.183)
on: Fri Aug 13 13:27:15 EDT 2004
Sachin plays all the copybook shots perfectly.
ARR is a novice in the natural instruments. Forgot sachin, he is our Sadagopan Ramesh :)
- From: curses (@ 203.101.33.87)
on: Fri Aug 13 13:35:16 EDT 2004
hmmm..
Some of the best flute pieces i've heard were composed by Rahman.
- From: i am kiran i wear jeans, i am cool (@ 66.119.33.135)
on: Fri Aug 13 19:25:49 EDT 2004
IR's music is conducted from a document, ARR's music is made through meditating onto God, he works from 1 in the morning, his music comes from God, he rarely gets in the way from that. That is the difference between IR nd ARR. Kiran don't post any stupid comments, your the dog, keep barking.
- From: triokku jjj (@ 80.164.245.218)
on: Sun Aug 15 11:14:03 EDT 2004
arr, mozart? good joke. First let him compete with yuvan, vidhyasagar and harris.All these 3 have individually overtaken arr in cassettes nd cd sales.
ysr - manmadhan, vs's gilli, madure hj- arul, chellame are super hits. arr's new, ae are duds.
u dumb moronic arr fanatics wake up t0 reality. way to go trio (ysr,hj,vs kku j j)
- From: curses (@ 203.101.35.107)
on: Sun Aug 15 12:04:44 EDT 2004
*arul, chellame are super hits. arr's new, ae are duds*
:)
- From: vs/hj/ysr is the future!!! (@ 80.164.245.218)
on: Sun Aug 15 12:32:12 EDT 2004
curses, come out of ur yuppie spencer plaza circle and check out the reality at all other parts of tamilnadu dude :))
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Sun Aug 15 12:41:43 EDT 2004
"arul, chellame are super hits. arr's new, ae are duds"
Repeating a lie for 100 times will not make it true. You must accept the facts.
At times hj and ysr may have overtaken ARR in sales but VS has never done that.
Atleast you are some what sensible and not like the fools who say IR overtook ARR in cassette sales.
- From: vs/hj/ysr is the future (@ 80.164.245.218)
on: Sun Aug 15 14:04:59 EDT 2004
yov sema arivuyya unakku , guess me, IR is past man and he ruled the roost for many years. Most of kamal's and baaba pugal rajini's hey days were during ir's peak period. nobody can alter history man. go, compare sivaji and vikram. your comparing arr and ir is like that.
purinjidhaa?
now ur arr couldn't stand the heat of vs/hj/ysr deadly trio. vandhutaaru ivaru ir oda compare panna.vs's gilli , thirumalai, madure gave thiruvodu to arr's kks, e20u18, ae , new etc.poor vijai, he realized the costly mistake of using arr for udaya
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.229.1)
on: Sun Aug 15 14:08:43 EDT 2004
.....but VS has never done that.
appadi podu!!1
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Sun Aug 15 14:19:06 EDT 2004
Cant believe gilli , thirumalai and recently released madure overtook AE. None of these movies (excluding Madure as I havent listened to it) have atleast 1 good song which you can hum. Songs like Appadi Podu and Jakkamma sound like that of Deva.
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