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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: Subbu (@ 203.200.198.9) on: Thu Jul 31 00:47:25 EDT 2003
  
  OISG,
  
  It was great to read the list. Superb list. You may add "Enge neeyO naanum ange unnOdu" [Waiting for hubby], then Kaalamidhu kaalamidhu kaNNurangu magaLe [thalaattu for children].
  
  One of the "paLich" songs of PS is sugamO aayiram. EnnavO, Sujatha-ve paaduvadhu pola irukkum. Lots of close-up shots during this song. Another great song of IR+PS combo is "engayO edho paattondru ketten" from Nadiyai thedi vandha kadal (JJ's last movie ???). Classic of class melodies. bb, do u hv this song?
  
  SOTD and the write-up are really rich and compete with each other :-)
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Thu Jul 31 02:32:59 EDT 2003
  
  "Dating", "yeh yeh enaachu unakku" and "vaan nila tharum", the last two from Kaadhal Virus are my picks of ARR's recent fast numbers. Rest of the songs from Boys are noisy. I would have preferred the latter two to have been in "Boys" album instead. I dont mind not being able to decipher the lyrics but Maaro Maaro and Secret of Success didnt make any sort of impact like the first 3 did. With "Maaro maaro" ARR has tried to create some sort of a sports anthem like "We will rock you" (Freddie Mercury) but doesnt quite hit the mark in my books. Boom Boom is just OK, nothing special. For listeners exposed to US pop of 80s/90s some of the sound effects/gimmicks used in these 2 albums would be familiar. But with this album ARR has showed that he is leagues ahead of Vidyasagar, HJ and his other competitors when it comes to fresh ideas. I only wish that he be much more prolific than he is. bb: I wanted to make a suggestion earlier with regards to SOTD in terms of hosting a fast song once in awhile(or songs of a different genre) and breaking away from the trend of hosting strictly melodious songs. Well you seem to have read my mind somehow :-)
  
  
• From: raj (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Thu Jul 31 03:41:33 EDT 2003
  
  A Differnt Try from ARR
  but Adnan samy's Pronounciation is bad..
  
  Musicwise it is a Nice song
  
  But Maaro,Secretofsuccess,Enakoru tops this song in the order
  
  
• From: rahmanfan (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Thu Jul 31 10:56:47 EDT 2003
  
  bb, great! song, the vocoder like sounding voice of Adan is quite powerful and gives engery to the song. I would add that video is quite good! too for all the songs. Rahman sets another trend by getting this form of music to tamil, I would say the gap between international music and indian popular music is narrowed by this album. Totally new music and it will take some time for people to digest this. It is worth the risk in experimentation inspite of very less from rahman for sometime now, I support this change for indian film music to go global soon. Thanks for uploading this song before the movie is out, something to record I suppose.
  :)
  
  
• From: R (@ 128.119.241.196) on: Thu Jul 31 22:17:53 EDT 2003
  
  hm... bb, from your description I thought this WAS going to be cacophony.. It is nothing of the sort. I liked the song! Can't say that of many recent ARR numbers. :)
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Thu Jul 31 23:40:38 EDT 2003
  
  The best work from Rahman in recent times has got to be the Lagaan theme. Pl. give it a listen if you havent. Its just instrumental and not much Hindi lyrics :-)Incredible development from the solo humming of AS to the horn piece to the string sections which bring about the patriotic fervor in just about everyone who listens to it(the "yeh bayya" chorus is great too and effectively used in the movie) and then it closes of with the solo humming again, kind of having a symmetry to it. Wonderful!
  I had a chance to see it here in the local Sundance channel which has been screenig some Desi movies of late. Was overwhelmed by this piece. Impact-wise its better than the 1947-Earth theme which I had personally ranked as ARR's no.1 earlier.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Fri Aug 1 00:02:29 EDT 2003
  
  Song of the Day: ThingaL maalai veN kudaiyaan from Karumbu.
  
  1. K.J.Yesudas version:
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/thingalkjy.rm
  
  2. S.Janaki version:
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/thingalsj.rm
  
  
  - Venkat writes on this song:
  
  cilappathikaaram (Epic of the Anklet) - kANalvari
  IllangovadikaL
  
  For no reasons, some music get etched in memory. Some melodies keep haunting every now and then, even though it is ages since last listened. One of those rare gems is a movie song "thingaL malai veNkudaiyAn". I remember vividly that I first listened this song when I was about 13 years old, in Srilanka Broadcasting Corporation, Tamil Service 2. I do not know why/how I remember these trivial details. It was a weekend; I was sitting down on the floor and doing my history homework. It should be between 4:00 and 5:00 pm. My world stopped. I put the pen down and concentrated on the song. All that I could comprehend at that age was that the singer is K.J. Yesudoss. I froze the moment in my memory (to the mind numbing details of the evening and my history lessons). I might have listened to this song few more times, every time only from Tamil Service 2. I never could listen this song after 1982. This is the time the Tamil services of SLBC were downsized following the ethnic conflicts.
  
  I came back to this song in 1991, when I was a student in the Indian Institute of Science. This was during a casual conversation with my friend Ujjwal Das about composer Salil Chowdhury. He was surprised when I informed that his favourite Salilda has scored music to a handful of Tamil movies (thUraththu idi muzhakkam, azhiyaatha kOlangaL, karumbu). He wanted to listen to those songs, I had the first two and my quest to acquire the third began then. It is about 12 years since then, I finally have a copy of the songs from karumbu; thanks to the Internet.
  
  This song was recorded for Karumbu in 1973. The movie was never released and was supposed to be directed by Ramu Kariat of chemmeen (malayalam) fame. There is also a S Janaki version of this song.
  
  Since 1999, with the advent of the Forumhub, I speeded up the search. There were few others who reminisced about this song, but none of them had a copy of it. When I moved to Toronto, I used to seek this song with all my Srilankan friends. Movie songs were (are?) never broadcast in All India Radio before the movie itself was released. However, SLBC never had any qualms about pre-screen broadcasting. In fact, several movies became instant hits as the songs had already become popular thorough SLBC-TS2.
  
  By now, my interest in this song has grown many fold as I started developing a passion for Tamil literature. I was involved in e-texting the first part (mathurak kANtam) of cilappathikaaram for Project Madurai and had the pleasure in contributing this great epic. I Started sending emails to everyone whom I thought, may have a copy of this song. This is strange for someone who is no big fan of KJ Yesudoss and who despises his Tamil pronunciations in songs.
  
  Finally, I had my luck when I visited a site devoted to Salil Chowdhury. I overcome my initial reservation in asking someone whom I never knew, gathered enough courage to write to Gautam, who developed this excellent site. Within a day, he replied. For the first time I heard from someone who has a copy of this record!! He was willing to send me a copy of those songs once his PC is back in action. Yes, he did. Within a week, I had the copies of both the versions of this song. I did some noise editing and tagging so that I could propagate its glory.
  
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  cilappathikaaram and kANalvari are the beginnings of what we consider as the early Tamilisai (the roots of Carnatic music). The exact date of cilampu is not known but is rated between 400-700 AD. The work has 6 chapters on music: aRangetRukAthai, kaNalvari, vEnirkAthai, vEttuvavari, kunRakuRavai and aychiyarkuRavai. It also talks extensively about instruments, song structures, meters, stage dimensions and settings. There is no other Indian work that is so descriptive of the days music and dance. Illango adikaL also used kalippA extensively and very imaginatively. KalippA (with its tharvu, koccakam, thaazicai...) is what metamorphosed into the classical raaga structure. In more than one sense cilampu was a trendsetter of the day (it is an epic about ordinary folks, not about a king). It has very well developed dramatic elements. cilampu may also be one of the highly misunderstood epics in Indian literature. Prof. Indira Parthasarathy argues that it was not the intent of illango adikaL to glorify kaNNaki and goes on to prove how ordinary, unimaginative, self-centered she was (to the extent of using her chastity as a currency for her fame).
  
  That is how kOvalan finds mAthavi - not only stunningly beautiful and talented but also capable of intelligent conversation, something kaNNaki was incapable of. The passages in kANalvari best exemplify this. It all start as simple verbal play between the pair that is enjoying itself in the festive atmosphere in the beach. Soon, kOvalan comes out, unable to hide his inferiority in front of the femme royale mAdhavi. Words stretch and kOvalan misinterprets mAdhavi’s simple playfulness (in the light of his inferiority) and leaves her company. Cilampu enters its second chapter, where the travails of the human life take the centerstage.
  
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  Salil has tuned several great songs. I am sure this lesser known is one of his great contributions to the Indian Film Music. Here is a song, supposed to be for a movie in Tamil, and one of the oldest lyric ever tuned for a motion picture. The singer is KJ Yesudoss (MalayAlee), the other version is sung by S Janaki (Telugu) tuned by Salil (Bengali), for a movie to be directed by Ramu Kariat (a MalayAlee). Yet, the song has perfectly captured the forlorn spirit of kANalvari and the grand epic. Yesudoss has come up with an impeccable rendition. The song is loosely based in chakravaaham (one the generic carnatic raaga).
  
  The variation of this by S Janaki is missing the emotional undercurrent of kANalvari and has a more celebration mood to it, with chorus in the interludes. I guess Salil should have been briefed about kANalvari, that it takes places in a beach and during a carnival atmosphere. He has attempted two variations, one manifesting the emotions and the other the locale. But kANalvari lyrics have more emotive desolateness to them and Yesudoss’ version stands out easily, bringing out the emptiness of kOvaln’s heart.
  
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  I must conclude this thanking Gautam again for preserving this song and willing to share it with someone who is interested in it.
  
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  - This is a strange coincidence. When Venkat was trying hard to get this song, I was too. I was trying to get this song for the past few weeks. I contacted GV in Canada, who is an ardent KJY fan, and he had this song. He was very helpful and sent me the KJY version of the song in an audio cassette. It was great listening to the song after a long time, and I kept playing it again and again!
  
  

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