Topic started by vayatherichal (@ spider-wo082.proxy.aol.com) on Mon Jul 26 19:51:35 EDT 1999.
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sameebathil Vairamuthuvin pirandha naaLai munnittu
chennai vanoli nilaiayathin FM alai oru sirappu nigazhchikku aerpadu seidhirindhadhu. Thalaippu
'thamizhukku Vairamuthuvendra peiyar'.
Kavignar Bharathidhasanin paadalukku, tamizhukku
idhu oru perutha avamaanam. Thamizhai kaasukkaaga
aangila paduthum, 'viyarvai' pondra varthagalai ubayogithu naatha paduthum oru kavignarai thamizhukku inaiyaaga oppittadhu miga periya kodumai. Indha nigazhchikku Vairamuthu othukondadhu indha kavignarin 'thannadakkathai' kaanbikkiradhu. mazhakkalathin natchathirangalai pol ivar avappodu nalla paadalai ezhudhaalam aanal adharkkaaga indha oppeettal migavum adheegam. engae poi kondirkkirom??Indru
'thamizhukku vairamuthvendra peiyar' naalai
Pazhani bharathikku Mahakavi pattama??
Responses:
- From: bb (@ dialup-209.245.194.154.houston1.level3.net)
on: Tue Jul 27 01:50:07 EDT 1999
this is to be expected:-) reminds me of cho calling himself "saraswathiyin selvan" in that serial:)
- From: Shankar (@ netcache1.mot.com)
on: Tue Jul 27 04:02:06 EDT 1999
bb,
U might 've missed that parenthesis(as in sa(raswa)thiyin ) in the title :-)
- From: neruppu (@ 203.197.139.59)
on: Tue Jul 27 06:17:31 EDT 1999
cinemavukku loose mohan enru peyar!
isaikku deva enru peyar!
arasiyalukku subramanya swami enru peyar!
- From: bb (@ inehou-pxy04.compaq.com)
on: Tue Jul 27 12:43:52 EDT 1999
while on this topic, read an interview with V.G.sandhOsham, who has got the title, "kavich chakravarthy".
http://www.kalkiweekly.com/page6.html#kavi
- From: pae (@ global25.citicorp.com)
on: Tue Jul 27 13:54:42 EDT 1999
bb: *** ROTFL ****
- From: bb (@ inehou-pxy04.compaq.com)
on: Tue Jul 27 13:58:34 EDT 1999
pae, i wouldn't have been shocked, if they hadn't put a "sample" kavidhai of his:-)))))))))
- From: pn (@ 149.112.101.134)
on: Tue Jul 27 15:02:46 EDT 1999
I read the article about V.G.sandhOsham,and was astounded. After makeing certain amount of money, reality is optional I guess.
He mentions that Kambar wrote 12000 verses of Kambaramayanam, while he "kavich chakravarthy" wrote 35,000 poems, about three times the size. Boy the numbers speak for them selves.
Hey guys, I got the dibs on being the next "kavich chakravarthy".
I am hiring 1000 monkeys and using 1000 typewrites and will create 100,000 poems in one week. That is 8 times the Kambars work and should easily qualify me as the next "kavich chakravarthy".
- From: pg (@ hqinbh1.ms.com)
on: Tue Jul 27 16:00:04 EDT 1999
What does nA.kAmaRasan have to say about this ?
- From: Anand R (@ il2.aap.ans.net)
on: Wed Jul 28 13:20:11 EDT 1999
Coming back to VM, our man has taken a new avatar,
on his birthday. He became "Kavi Perarasu". Tamil Nadu CM conferred him this title. Apparently, he gave away "Kaviarasu" title on his last birthday.
So, our man is doubly delighted with this new avatar. We can all expect his "poems" on cine-stars like Kushboo (Annamalai), Rajini (many songs including Super Staru yaarunnu ketta) and Ice (Jeans), and words like MahaVervai etc. (Vervai-il irundhu promotion)
If guys like VM who writes one or two good lines in one or two film songs (Vairamuthu-vin vaira varigal - true only 1 or 2 lines are good) can be a KAviPerarasu, why can't VGS who writes "vendum" ending song like our man (or is it poem?) be kavichakravarthi?
Do you guys notice one more thing? People like VM, BR are always in one party - ruling party. They are close to Sasikala Natarajan, Karunanidhi and whoever rules.
Talking abour VM's thannadakkam, VM came to Malaysia once in 1995/6, he was interviewed by RTM listeners (anybody can call in to talk to him). One guy asked him if VM will write a good song for him. It's such a junta question VM could've passed it. Our man said, no problem, nalla kavidhai yendral adharkku neriya selavagum; neengal ready endral naanum ready. He's no more than a tamil viyabhari. He went on to say on radio that he's the authority for tamil kavidhai in TN, forgetting that there could be listeners from TN who fully know what his plight is in TN.
Indha madhiri aalungalai ellam, madras tamil-al archikka vendum.
- Anand R.
- From: S (@ netcache1.mot.com)
on: Thu Jul 29 11:16:12 EDT 1999
pg :-)))) I'm sure u've read that interview of nA.kA in kumuidham or AV :-)))
- From: Thamizh Pithan (@ brf-cache10.jaring.my)
on: Thu Jul 29 23:31:02 EDT 1999
VM once said "Ithuvaraikkum Thamizh enakku soru pottathu. Inumel naan Thamizhukku choru pOdappogiren" My question is, is Thamizh depending on VM for survival? He was cornered and he said" En thaai muthalil enakku choru podukiraal. Naan valarnhta pinnal tthaaikku choru poduvathu enna thappu?" Fine, but what is the type of choru that he is repaying his mother? All oosi adithu pona pazhaya choru.
2. While in Malaysia he was asked as to why he used a lot of vulgar words. He justified by saying that Kannadasan and Pattukottai too wrote such sings. Is it proper to give this excuse. Going by the same reasoning can we also ask him since Kannadasan and Pattukottai have written excellent songs how come VM is not writing such goods songs?
One idiot (I repeat he is truly idiot) said these words: "Shoulkd VM been born during the time of Barathiyar, Bharathiyar would have lost in poetic ability. Had VM been alive during the time of Bharathithasan , Bharathithasan would have lost to VM...." His is truly an empty vessel as he does not know much Tamil. He is an Anglo Indian. Later we cornered him and he admitted that he was pre-prepared to say these things. Who had prepared him. Nver mind. If VM was of thannadakkam , he should havce stopped this idiot. But he acknolwledged.
VM was seen with MGR several times. Then with Jayalalitha, now with Mu.Ka. Mu Ka always needs cine people around him. He knows the power of cinema.
In Malaysia there is one Tamil daily that blows the trumpet of VM, all because the management of that daily has joined hands with VM in a hotel industry in Bangalore. If not fort this paper, VM would not be popular in Malaysia.
Lastly, it is most unfortunate that by and large, the main supporters of VM are thos of younger generation who have not tasted the nectar of the valuable cine songs of the fifites and sixties.
There is a saying "Aalai illaatha ooril iluppai poo chakkarai" In a place where there is no sugar factory, eople become contented with nectar from the iluppai flower. In the absence of able cine poets, VM has to be accepted as a sad alternative.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Fri Jul 30 11:57:55 EDT 1999
thamizhp piththan,
actually, now, imo, there are good poets in tfm, but the audience seem to like only the illuppai pU. remember the kuRaL "kaniyiruppa kAykavarn dhaRRu?
- From: vimal (@ gwpc32.inre.asu.edu)
on: Fri Jul 30 16:22:35 EDT 1999
Glipmses of his "Master Pieces":
1. "Kondayil Vazhapoo Nenjile Thazhampu poovile enna poo Khushboo.."
2. "Brahmanukku Moodu Vandhu unna anupittan, ada kamanukku moodu vandha enna anupittan.."
3. "Super Staru yarunnu ketta .."
4. "Melbourne malarpol melliya magala..."
5. "Changu Chakkara Sami Vandhu jingu jingunnu aduthan.."
6. "Unga appanukkum be be.."
The BEST: 'Ezhu manikku mela naanum inba letchumi"
Isn't it an abatham? What does "Inbe letchumi" mean? I've not heard of such a deity.
Annanagaru Andalu is much better as it is a Blatant, Cheap song and not 'Abathamized' like the works of our Kavi ____(fill in the blanks).
God save TFM.
- From: he has got some good stuff too! (@ inehou-pxy04.compaq.com)
on: Fri Jul 30 16:44:41 EDT 1999
Glimpses of his "Master Pieces":
1.idhu oru ponmaalaip pozhudhu
vaanamagal naanugiraal vaeru udai poonugiraal
2.oru vaasamillaak kilaiyin mael naruvaasamulla poovaippaar poovaasam adhisayamae
minsaaram illaamal midhakkinra dheebampoal maeni konda minminigal adhisayamae
3.poovil vaNdu koodum kaNdu
poovum kaNgaL moodum..
poovinam mAnAdu pOdum
vaNdugaL sangEEtham pAdam..
4.mannum vinnum urasugaiyil
enna baashai paesidumoa
alaiyum kadalum urasugaiyil
paesum baashai paesidumoa
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-77-79.sprint.ca)
on: Fri Jul 30 18:19:08 EDT 1999
Ippidi paarthaal....Vaali has got better stuff then him, don't you think. One example is 'kOduthathEllaam kOduthaan avan yaarukkaaga kOduthaan'. Why wasn't Vaali given these 'paddams'. Vairamuthu is just a self-promoter and he will suck up to anyone in power.
- From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.22.112)
on: Fri Jul 30 20:46:33 EDT 1999
V.G.Sandhosham instant kavidhainnu ezhuthi koduththathu, avarukku mattum thaan kavithaiyyai theriyumnu nunaikkirEn. yEdho kuzhandhingaLukku, "moral science" paadam solli kudukkira maadhiri irukku. IMO thaan.
ippadi kavithai ezuthi pattam vaangalaamnaa, eppadi kavithai ezhuthinaalum pattam vaangalaam.
- From: Thamizhpithan (@ brf-cache10.jaring.my)
on: Fri Jul 30 21:19:35 EDT 1999
VM said it took him 30 days to compose the song "Veerapaandi Kottayile". Based on the time taken to compose that particular song is a masterpiece, he says. What about those who write immortal songs within minutes?
Fellow is at the height of arrogance. Downfall is not too far. He actually does not know English, yet uses English words.
Why does he take home the tunes to compose the songs? Everything is from the blessings of Ponnumanai. So Ponnumani should be called "Maha Kavi Perarasu"
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Sat Jul 31 14:36:13 EDT 1999
pon mAlaip pozhudhu has a "great" line in it. it's so great i would have to take hundred more births to completely understand it. the line is
pAdum paRavaigaL thALamidum.
iT'SS DEEEPPPPPP.
- From: Pulamaiyattra Piththan (@ tide71.microsoft.com)
on: Sun Aug 1 20:08:38 EDT 1999
Adhaagappattadhu... paadum paravaigal kooda idhu ennada lyrics-nu puriyaama paadaradhai niruthittu thaalam poda arambichidum :-) ...
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Sun Aug 1 20:58:54 EDT 1999
appidi varArA vAdhyAru! thelisikkinEn :-))
- From: Vaitherichal Veeran (@ brf-cache10.jaring.my)
on: Mon Aug 2 22:47:56 EDT 1999
How is it that Vairamuthu's lines are called Vaira VarikaL? Are they really up to the mark of diamond in value or is it because the lines are based n his name? If that is the case please look at the following lines named after the lyricists:
1 kAma varikaL- Na Kaamaraasan
2.pulamai varikal- Pulamaipithan
3.kaamu varikal-Ka.Mu Sheriff
4.methai varikal-mu Metha
5.muthu varikal-muthukoothan
6.Rum varikal-(Tanjai) Ramiah Dass
7.vinthu varikal-Vinthan
8.Maaya varikal-Maayavanathan
9.
- From: MinsaraKannan (@ 208.164.92.199)
on: Mon Aug 9 18:56:11 EDT 1999
Some more "vaira" varigal:
1) bandham nam bandham endrendrum thee-pandhamE
2) kannam valikkum, killAdhE kalluli mangaa
3) nadai paadhai kadayil, thEneer kudippEn
4) vathi kuchi illAmalE kaadhal theeyai patra vaippAl
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