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MOOD AND MELODY - HAS ARRAHMAN BROUGHT A NEW DIMENSION TO POPULAR TAMIL MUSIC?

Topic started by sinnathamby.s (@ webcacheh09a.cache.pol.co.uk) on Fri Feb 18 20:24:02 EST 2000.
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Tamil film songs are, whether based on classical raagas, folk or contemporary tunes, melodious. That is to say, with some reservation, there is only melody in them. The other aspect - mood is largely absent. But some songs are exceptional. `Paar magale paar` is a great song with an ideal combination of mood and melody. But these types of songs are few and far between.

The arrival of ARRahman in Indian music scence is indeed epoch-making. Songs after songs he blends beautifully, mood and melody. By introducing new voices, he adds a new touch of vibrancy, youth, excitement and various other moods, while not loosing appropriateness to the lyrics. Listening becomes a new experience, easily identifying the nature of the songs and get abosrbed in the background.

Comments are invited.

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Responses:

• From: ravi k.s. ravichandran (@ pub-dial113.aclis.utah.edu) on: Sat Feb 19 00:34:53 EST 2000
  
  Paar Magale Paar is an outstanding song of the past. Only MSV is capable of that combination of mood and melody.. A few other examples are: the greatest ever lullaby, IMO, by MSV and Ramamoorthy.. "Malarnthum Malaratha..in Pazhum Pazhamum. Other Examples..
  "Thookamum Kanghalai Thazhuvattumae.., "Kalamithu Kalamithu Kannuranghu Magale.., "Ahru Manamae Ahru antha Aandavan Kattalai Azhu..., "Yenghe Nimmathi..." "Malligahi yen Mannan Mayanghum.. etc. MSV is a master of mood and melody.
  
  I can't think of anyone that can match/excel it in terms of mood and melody, except IR. They are perhaps, "Kannae kalai manae.." by IR in Moondram Pirai and "Azahiya Kanne.." by IR in Udhirippookal, "Kuzhaloothum Kannanukku.." by IR/MSV combination in Mella Thirantadhu Kadhavu, "Katril Yenthal Geetham.." by IR in Johnny, "Uravenum Puthiya Vanil..." in Nenjathai Killathe, "kannan Oru Kaikhuzhanthai.. in Bhadhrakali. By songs like these, is how IR, IMO, had equalled or even excelled MSV in many instances.
  
  I don't know about those of other MDS, nor do I have heard of any. Can anyone can suggest a mood and melody song matching in quality such as these by other music directors ?
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ bacall05.slip.yorku.ca) on: Sat Feb 19 02:11:32 EST 2000
  
  I don't know about melody and ARR's music. Mostly he focuses on beats. Even the slow numbers of his have some sort of a 'thullal'. But there are songs like 'uyire uyire', 'kannaalanae','thoda thoda malarnthathena' and 'poonkaatrile' that have a good mood, that is, the mood of the song come out explicitly. Simply saying, I think that the music and the mood blend together, along with the singers contributions to set the mood as so. But there are times when good songs have been demolished by his experiments. Those songs do not have what you blending of mood and melody. For instance, the song 'naalai ulagam illaiyenranal, anbe nee enn sevaiye' came out pretty bad because the instrumental music given to the song was not appropriate for the lyrics and the mood of the tune of the song. Again, in the same movie...'malargale malargale' by Chithra and Hariharan was exceptional. Yet, even though the music ARR gave was quite well, I have my doubts as to if the song wouldn't have been a better product had he eliminated the fast pace the song acquires in the instrumental intervals. I say this because both the intervals and then the 'charanams' seem like they don't belong together. On the talk of new singers, I think most of us can admit that although ARR has brought in new singers, quite a large number of the so called singers have only left(hopefully) us in tears(not joyful).
  
  Of course, this may all be wrong. Someone like Srikanth would be able to justify the topic better, I suppose.
  
  
• From: malathy (@ ) on: Fri May 4 03:06:26 EDT 2001
  
  i want lyrics for kannae kalai maane song from moondram pirai.pl send the lyrics.thanks
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ 202.9.169.42) on: Fri May 4 11:08:00 EDT 2001
  
  Definitely yes!
  If you listen to the melody numbers, you can get the feel of the lyric in the song with the chords subdued and the orchestration gets brighter with the BGM.
  Of course, This rhythm MASTER has given prominence to the style and variation in the rhythmic contents of his songs with a variety of rhythm, which was absent till recently.
  
  Even children know the value of Rahman songs. If one cannot understand, ask your child if you have one.
  
  
• From: Twinkle_Twinkle (@ 206.175.176.2) on: Fri May 4 18:05:43 EDT 2001
  
  Is it because most of the songs sound like nursery rhymes?
  
  
• From: moods ran away with melody (@ 63.208.67.140) on: Fri May 4 18:35:08 EDT 2001
  
  definitely moods have become transparent and thin and melody? she has run away with moods. this is good for the future music because that way moods is stiffling the flow and the moaning sounds of melody will testify to arr's reproducitivity.
  
  
• From: moods will stop nursery rhymes (@ 63.208.67.140) on: Fri May 4 18:39:32 EDT 2001
  
  forgot one thing Twinkle_Twinkle (that was really funny man!!!) now with moods inside melody it is sure we will not worry about more ( 'inspired') nursery rhymes in the future.
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 63.21.182.26) on: Fri May 4 23:06:40 EDT 2001
  
  Mood and Melody-nnavudanE enakku nyaagabagam varradhu just this one song...
  
  "Athan En Athan"
  
  Hats off to the great duo!
  
  I think ARR has brought the melody factor back in TFM. IR was the one to take it away slowly from the scene (inspite of his great numbers in the past).
  
  
• From: ! (@ 172.160.201.157) on: Fri May 4 23:15:48 EDT 2001
  
  which moods, rippled strawberry flavour right?
  
  
• From: ?!? (@ 63.21.182.57) on: Sat May 5 23:55:18 EDT 2001
  
  mmmm... nalla maNam.... aahaaa...sssss....aahaa...!
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.114) on: Sun May 6 05:49:05 EDT 2001
  
  Mood and Melody
  Yes. MSV did really well.
  1. Vaarayen Thozi Vaarayo - Marriage Hall Feeling.
  2. Sothanai Mel Sothanai - Cholave Thevai Illai.
  3. Naalai Indtha Velai - Viraha Thaapam
  4. Ilakanam Maarutho - Ullukule Kaathalai Moodi Vaithal
  5. Malai Raani Mundthaanai - Iyarkai Azaku
  Innum Niraiya Irukirathu.
  
  IR too did well. We can make a big list. But the fact is ARR didn't do well in most cases. It doesn't mean ARR is not capable. He is capable. But the present trend doesn't support. The truth is none of present MDs have the oppurtunity. When the story doesn't support, what the MD can do?
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Mon May 7 11:02:57 EDT 2001
  
  guys ..dont forget who wrote the lyrics for the duo..Listen to the songs of IR penned by the kavignar. johnny, 3Am piRai etc..Amazing. vairamuththu did okay but IMO he is not a deep person like kavignar..Recently IR himself penned isaiyil thodanguthamma in hEy rAm. IR has done wonders in creating mood..ARR is very much behind him in this dept.
  
  
• From: sandran (@ 203.106.146.137) on: Sat May 12 11:11:33 EDT 2001
  
  Please send for me more ringing tone of nokia,ericson and as well as for siemens.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat May 12 12:27:55 EDT 2001
  
  I think ARR's "Dil Se Re.." creates fantastic style as well as a mood...it wil always be one of my all time favourites...IR's "Oru Kaviyam uruvaga neram" (i don't know the film..could someone clarify?)....is a beautiful one..I rate it among his best.
  
  
• From: Arul kumar (@ 203.126.228.21) on: Fri May 18 04:04:01 EDT 2001
  
  ARR made the great mood the tamil music lovers. His great music make him always great.
  
  ARR CD collection are worthwhile. I never missout any CD till now from Roja to Thenali.
  
  After Thenali still I waiting for his next album and next collection should be ARR CD never mind to wait for a year for great music.
  
  
  
• From: IR Fan (@ 63.208.65.218) on: Thu May 24 21:02:55 EDT 2001
  
  ARR honestly according to Hariharan brought new sounds and his emphasis is on great new sounds (no pun) But moods? How muchever wonderfully creative revolutionary melodies brought out by ARR, mood is missing. IR was mood mod fugue, a thousand and one different moods with simple tunes but great instrumental music. ARR cannot boast of these arsenal. his approach is very different no scope for much dramatic music.
  
  
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 64.220.209.210) on: Wed May 30 17:01:29 EDT 2001
  
  Bringing mood along with the melody - can anyone else do it other than IR? i am really doubtful. I rate all his songs in this category. Many songs had been gone unnoticed like, Poonkaaviyam paesum Oviyam from Karpooramullai ( The violin interlude, wow! IR is simply superb..), Thaenmozhi endhan thaenmozhi from solla thudikkuthu manasu, kannaa varuvaayaa from manathil uruthi vaendum, Mokam ennum from sindhubhairavi, Almost all the songs in Mogamul and bharathi. The list is endless.....
  This Topic title is just hilarious and should have been made to make us laugh about... Nowadays, it's a trend of saying all the things have been created by ARR as if all others haven't done anything for all these years! To me, he's JUST a good sound engineer but nowhere in the picture of being a GOOD MUSICIAN who brings up moods in the song. NO WAY. Pl. bear with me if i am wrong... What else to say??
  
  
• From: IR Fan (@ 166.90.86.187) on: Wed May 30 18:24:41 EDT 2001
  
  i menat to say what Saravanan said. Very unlikely to come across a composer who has consistently composed so many different songs with to evoke very many different moods. It is an endless topic. i see moods such as wataching the sun set, an evening at a beach, moon lit nights, a busy day in a rural area, a melanncholic moment in a church or a temple. Only IR has done it in india. That is why IR delights us with each songs of his, the fascinating tunes on the variety of instruments he uses. KRaja is just another wonderkid on this platform. ARR focus is different. he just wants a tune.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat Jun 2 05:40:12 EDT 2001
  
  >>>To me, he's JUST a good sound engineer but nowhere in the picture of being a GOOD MUSICIAN who brings up moods in the song. NO WAY. Pl. bear with me if i am wrong... What else to say??<<<
  
  Saravanan...don't ever put down somebody like that...is this how much you respect your own profession?...how will you feel if you were a good Engineer and someone said that you are a good draughtsman?.......ARR has proved again and again...if you can't take it....dissect his songs and spk from your heart...just bcos u can type don't go ahead typing BS!
  
  Can you compose one good tune and put it to good music and also get it accepted by the masses throughout INDIA ?!!! Or are you a Sound Engineer who can prove that ARR is just that !! Anyway no point in replying to guys like u and that IRFan !
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Mon Jun 4 01:01:33 EDT 2001
  
  Cosmician,
  ARR is very good music director. there is no doubt about it. we are proud of him. at the same time, he should concentrate little more in mood side. It doesn't mean he can't do it. He did very well in some movies like Roja, Kizakuch Cheemaiyile, Karuthamma, Duet, Kandukondean Kandukondean and Alai Paauthey. He didn't get such movies more to come out with the moody melody. Let us hope he'll get more good movies.
  
  Saravannan,
  IR is very good Music Director. His achivements are great. At the same time, IR is not only the MD who can give moody melodies. MSV was the one who started mixing mood and melody and followed by everyone. I am not under-estimating IR's contribution. But I think you haven't listened non-IR music without bias. Listen all songs unbiasly and then post the true comments about other MDs.
  
  

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