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- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-145.iap.bryant.webtv.net)
on: Thu Jan 8 23:44:10 EST 1998
Seivaaya Raasaiyaa...?
Irubathaam nootraandin ISAI NANTHAN raasaiyaavirkku,
Unnai Isaigyaani yendralaikka maattean...!
yenenil
padaththayaarippalanillai naan.
Unnai naan raagathevan yendralaikka maattea...!
yenenil
yentha padaththayum iyakkappoavathillai naan.
yenave.....
Yen inia Raasaiya!.
Isai kuriththum, athan aala, akalangal kuriththum yeluthumpoathu kuda......surangal aara(6) allathu yela(7) yendra anavasiyak kulappaththudan thaan aarambikkindrean ithanai...
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-145.iap.bryant.webtv.net)
on: Fri Jan 9 00:05:21 EST 1998
Ninaivu thearintha naali-irunthu.....
..........thirai isai yiththoadu mudinthathu. Meandum aduththa thirai isai maalai 6.10kku yenbathoadu vaanoliyin kaluththu thirugappattu vidum.
Hamsathvaniyo....kalyaniyo....karakarapriya..O...karakarappillatha priya..O....anuvalavum arinthathillai naan.
Yengal oor maariyamman kovil oliperukkigal........ antha athikaalaip poaluthugalil oneru "Yaathongi bharath" paadaludan thuyileluppum, allathu "yea..thosthu..kee.." paadaludan soambal murikkum. Moli purigiratho illayo....baabyyo...kurbaaniyo... 10 kaasu koduththu paattup pushthagam vaangi vanthu manappaadam seithu vittuthaan maruvelai. Yenenil hindi paadal therinthiruppathu yenbathu yemakkaana angikaaraththirkaana adayaalangal. Alagaaka illai yenbatharkkakave ammavai velaikari yendru kurum marabil vantha mannin Mainthargal nangal. Yeppadi indraikku cricket kuriththu silaakik-kaamal iruppathu anaagarigamo.... appadi andraikku hindi paadal munumunukkaathu iruppathu anaagarigam.
Aththagaya poluthugalil thaan nee arimugamaanaai.!
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Jan 9 00:59:33 EST 1998
Athu naan arai drayer poattuth thirintha kaalangal. Nediyathoru molippoar nigalnthathan suvadugale puriyaamal valarntha nangal.....
"Odi vantha hindi penne! keal..... nee naadi vantha naadu ithalla.." yendra mulakkangalai maranthu annia moliyin aravanaippil thuyil kollath thuvangiya poathu arimugamaanai nee yemakku.
Thaar poosi alikkavillai nee.
Thadai meeri mariyalukkum poagavillai nee.
Saththamindri oru molippoar nadaththina unathu sangethangal.
Mounamaai nee thoaduththa amaithippoaril annia moliyin adichchuvadu kooda alinthu poayitru.
Unathu varugaikkup pinnar thaan yemmoor oliperukkigal hindi padalgalukku pirivu vilaa nadaththi vittu thamilai thaangik kollath thuvangina.
Iniya raasaiya..!,
Unnmayai olikkathu solla veandumendraal......
Yengalaye yengalukku arimugam seithu vaiththavan nee thaan.
Nangal tholaiththa yemathu adayaalangalai....
Marantha kalaachcharaththai......
Neenda kodai vidumurayil paranukkup poaivitta puththagap paiyaik keelirakki, thoosi thatti thudaiththu thoalil maatti anuppum oru thaayaai...
Thavaravitta thadayangalai thirumbavum thoalil maatti vittavan neeye thaan.
Andru annakkiliyin murukkuppiliyum isaiyodu aarppattamaai adiyeduththu vaiththa nee, indru "Raman abdhulla" varayilum ithayaththai piliyum isaiyoadu engalai aakiramithu varugiraai.
Athan vilaivuthaan:
Nagarpuraththu "JEANS" ilaigan kooda "inje iduppalaga" yendru kiraamiya mettai munumunuthathu
Idayil eththanai kaalam urundodiyirukirathu yendru yennip paarkirean.....yeraththaala 20 aandugal.....7300 naatkal.....yenakku thearinthavarai......iththagaya maaperum varalaaru yentha oru isaiamaipaalanukkum irunthathillai.
Iniya raasaiyaa!
Ivarivar thaan paada veandum, ippadithaan paada veandum, Inimaiyendral ithuthaan yendru irugi kidantha isaiulagai negilththiyavan nee thaan.
athan piraguthaan....
saatharanargalin....miga..miga..saatharanargalin kuralai nangal ketkath thuvanginoam.
"Anne anne.. sippayanne.."vin karakaraththa kuralum....
"Orambo...Orambo.."vena then-maavattaththu siruvargalin silludayak kuralgalum....
"thenambettai super market yerangu..."yenach chittukuruviyil oliththa nadaththunarin kuralum yemakkup puthiyavai raasaiyaa!
Thirai isaiyodu theernthu poayitru unathu isai sarakku yendru irunthavargalukku....vanthu sernthana unathu isaith thoguppugal...
onru: Kattrai thavira verillai (Nothing but wind) matronru: yeppadi peayarittu alaippathu (How to name it?) innoru parimaanam.
Athai vaarththaigalal varnippathu yenbathu kuyilin kuralai kagiththil yeluthip padippatharkku oppaanathu.
sari, aththoduthaan nindrathaa raasaiya unathu isaipayanam?
Sooriyan marayaatha theasaththirkkuch soanthakkarargal yelunthu nindru un yeluchchikku thalai vanaginaargal.
Londanil ulla Royal pilarmonic isaikkuluvil SYMPHONY isai amaikka:
thamilagaththilirunthu ..illai...illai...
indiyavilirunthu....illai..illai...athukoda illai.
Intha asia kandathileye alaikkap patta muthal manithan nee thaan.
Aanaal.....
Thenthisayil irunthu oru puyal purappattu karai kadanthathayo....athu englandil maiyam kondathayo...athu royal pilarmonic isai kuluvaiye isaiyaal sulatri adithathayo...... vari padaththil mattume inthiyargalaai vaalnthu kondirukkum anega vada(north) inthiyargalukku urakkave illai.
Kaaranam (reason) 1: Un tholin niram
Kaaranam (reason) 2: Nee oru matharaasi
Unathu isaith thiramai kuriththu yennatra viyakiyanagalum, sorsilambagalum nadanthu kondirukindrana.
Yetho oru sakthi yennai yiakuthu yena nee kooda koorik kondiruppathu sirippai thaan varavalaigirathu raasaiyaa..!
Unathu isai Meanmaikku kaaranam:
Ulaippu - Ulaippu - Ulaippu
athuvum un ayaraatha Ulaippu...
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Jan 9 01:12:30 EST 1998
Iniya raasaiya,
Unnai neasippatharkku yevvalavu urimai yeduththuk kolgireno....avvithame...
Unnai yosikka vaippatharkkum urimai iruppathaagave unargirean... athuve oru thoalanukkuriya kadamayum kooda......
Angalaaikka ninaiththa visayam ALAGI poatti...
Yeththanaipear yethirththa visayam athu, yethirththa aththanai perum murpoakkalargal alla yenpathu veru visayam..
"Unnai....unarthalileye" perum poluthu poaivittapadiyaal...
"PENNAI" unarath thavari vittaai...!
pennai poaga porulaakkum oru ilivaana nigalchiyil unathu isayum inainthu kondathu yettruk kolla iyalaatha varuththam thaan.
"PEN" kuriththa purithal irunthirukumeyaanaal nilaakayuthuvum....., siththerumbu kadippathum unathu isayil arangeri irukkathu.
Kuppai thoattikku poaga veandiya sila paadalgal unathu isaiyin valimayaal kopuraththin uchchiyil poai utgarnthu kondathanai yettru konduthaanaaga veandum.
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Jan 9 01:38:40 EST 1998
Inia Raasaiya,
Ivayellam nee nimirnthu paarththale ninru vidak koodiya visayangal thaan.
"Vetta velithanil kottik kidantha" yena nee yeluthia un puththagaththil unathu yeluththukkalai yettip paarthean.
athil:
"Naam intha samoogaththin angam; nammil oru mattram nigalaamal - ...athu intha samoogaththil nigalap poavathillai...." yendru yeluthiyirunthai.
Aam ithuvum unmai thaan raasaiya. Aanal ithumattume poathumaana thaaga padavillai. Thannai unarthalukku idayeyum intha samoogathin avalangalukku yethiraaga naam suttu viralayaavathu asaiththu thaanaaga veandum.
payanthu vidaathe...unnai kodi thookka sollavillai.
Yedu anthap parayai(instrument)
saathi verikkethiraai....
yedu anthap parayai
matha(religion) verikkethiraai.....
yedu anthap parayai
manitha urimaigalukkaai....
kottu....kottu mulangu....
intha theasamengum.
Kalaacharaththil verupatta mearkaththiya isai kalaigargalik kooda niraverik kethiraai paadiyirukkiraargal. Sutru soolalukkai thangal mulakkangalaip pathivu seithirukkiraargal.
Yenpathugalil(80's) manitha urimaigalai valiuruthi teresi safman(!?), peter capriyel(!?) poandra paadagarkal ulagalaaviya isaip payanam mearkondu irukkiraargal.
Avvalavu yean..
Andravinathu isai kalaigar kaththar immakkalathu thuyarangalai paadalgalai pavani varach seiyavillaya..?
Athaip poandru...
Kayaththarin soagankalai.... thuthukudiyin thuyarangalali.. meerattin matha kalavarangalai... odukkapadum thalithugalin thuyarangalai.. nee yean paadalgalaaga..... isai thoguppugalaaga.... immannil valam vara seyyakkoodathu?
Ingulla makkal africa viduthalaikkaga paadalgalai paadum poathu....
Nee yean immakkalathu soagankalai, africa, europe naadugalil ethirolikka vaikka koodathu?
Nee yean intha "ilintha" makkalin kilintha vaalvai sumanthu koandu oru isai payanam mearkolla koodathu?
SEIVAAYA RAASAIYA?
Immannin makkal un meethaana anbai unakku palamurai unarththi vittargal. atharkku kaimaaraaga un mun vaikkapadum ore vinaa..?
Nee yeppothu....? yeppadi...?
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Jan 9 01:59:15 EST 1998
Iniya Raasaiya,
Nagaraththin nagangal neendu...
Vayalveligal Real estatugalaai....
michchamirukira maramgalum sooraiyadappattu....
panakkara kulanthaigalukku Disney landaai..
Kiraamathu siruvargal vettuk kiliyum, poanvandum pidiththu thirintha puthar kaadugal...Holiday resartugalaai...
Yengal iyargai "naveenaththin" koara parkkalaal kutharappada aarambiththaayitru...
Ini...
Nangal,
antha kuyilin oasaigalayum....
salasalakkum neeroadayin oligalayum...
Unathu paadalgalil keattal thaan undu..!
Ingu yellame Aadambaram .. aaravaaram .. peariraichal ...
Intha aaravaara peariraichalgalil irunthu vidupada maattomaa yena ithayam eanga thuvangum kaalam nichchayam varum...
Appoluthu....
Unathu otrai pullangulalin isaikkaaga...
Intha ulagam kaathirukkum ....
Aanal.... Appothu...
Nee irukka maattai...
Aanal...
Unathu ISAI irukkum....
yendraikkum intha makkaloadu...!
Nambikkayudan,
PAAMARAN
KUMUTHAM
Thanks to KUMUTHAM SPECIAL August '97 Issue.
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-118.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Jan 9 23:17:44 EST 1998
IR wrote an article in one magazine for more than 15 weeks. Can any one knows about that matter?
If anyone knows about that please let us know.
The title of the article is "YENNULLE NAAN".
- From: gopal (@ 1cust158.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sat Jan 10 00:46:22 EST 1998
Thanx Rajan for giving us this excellent article on IR by Kumudham. IR is just not music, but beyond that too.
OFF TRACK:
Rajan, do you know that KBalachander was "kiLichufied' by Kumudham in a similar article like this? It seems his movies were torn into pieces for their "Samooga seerthirutha" ideas!! Can you confirm this from any of your old Kumudhams?
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-126.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Sat Jan 10 10:49:49 EST 1998
GOPAL:
Not only for KB.
PAAMARAN yeluthiya kadithangal:
1. JEYALALITA (thamilnattu maanaththai plot poattu vitra...)
2. KARUNANITHI (aatchikku vanthavutan ......)
3. BALACHANDER (eppo cinima edukka poarenga..?)
4. MANIRATNAM (Theasa bakthi viaabaaram ellam eappadi irukku...?)
5. ILAYARAAJA (Seivaaya Raasaiya...?)
6. ??? (Pl. help me)
Intha 6 kadithangalileye IR-kku mattum thaan oru thaayaai, thoalanaai, anbudan, paasaththudan yeluthiyirukkiraar PAAMARAN.
Matra yellarayume "kadichi kothari...kilichufied" panni yeluthiyirukkiraar PAAMARAN.
Intha kadithangalileye periya poogambathai undakkiyathu KB-kku yeluthiya kaditham thaan!
Poogambathai eluppiyathu kadithathin thalaippu:
"Eppothu cinema edukka poarenga?"
Pala munnani director's (Bharathi raja, K.S. Ravikumar, vasanth,.........) KUMUTHAM office-kku oorvalamai senru vaakku vaatham seithirukkiraargal.
Avargal seitha vaakku vaathamum atharkku KUMUTHAM aasiriyar MAALAN-in pathilgalum:
Directors:
KB avargal "THANNER...THANNER.." yendra padaththin moolam oru kiramathil maatram yerpaduthi irukkiraar athu ungalukku theariyavillaya? antha kiraama makkal intha padaththai paarththa piragu thaan arasiyalai ethirththu avargal yaarume oattu poadavillai endru solliyirukiraargal. Ithai
KB cinema moolam thaan saathithullaar.....! blah... blah...... blah..!
MAALAN:
Namathu naadu Sananaayaga naadu, athai oattu poattu thaan nilainirutha mudiyum. Oru padaththai paarthu makkal oattu poada vanthargal endral athu thaan antha directorukku perumaye thavira, Oattu poaduvathai niruthiyathil perumaiyillai..! Appadi patta directorgal namathu sananaayaga-thirkku theavayillai.! Thavira, oattu poadaamal irukka seivathu satta padi kutramum aagum.....!
Directors: !!!?!!?!!?!!?!!?!!!?!!!?!!???
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-152.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Sat Jan 10 11:26:08 EST 1998
Gopal:
I don't have all other PAAMARAN kaditham's now in USA.
- From: r.ravi (@ m30.pppmad.vsnl.net.in) on: Sat Jan 10 11:38:14 EST 1998
Malans answer was a real punch.!!!
- From: gopal (@ 1cust252.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sat Jan 10 20:27:39 EST 1998
OFF TRACK:
Sorry tfmpagers for this.I want only one thing to happen. KB's colors to be exposed. Worst thing to happen to tf........
- From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Wed Jan 14 12:24:30 EST 1998
Rajan:
Kumudham-il vandha IR article-yai engaludan bagirndhu kondadharkku mikka nanri.
- From: bs (@ neptune.bt.com) on: Fri Jan 16 08:53:48 EST 1998
Kiluchifying KB/Manirathnam or infact anybody is
press' forte.. Also the only plus point seen here is that PAAMARAN has given a clean chit to IR.. Dont go for blind worship as it has got a negative sense..JJ is a clearcut example..IR became complacent due to the same factor.. KB has given great films to TFWorld..Nobody can question that fact.. I dont care whether he has ditched IR, brought in Maragatha mani or ARR etc..Just that his films are definitely great..The personal matters about film personalities are provided by these glossy magazines which form popular opinion..One has to always thinks of all the viewpoints.. KUMUDAM's MAALAN has given his own opinion thats all.. His job is to provide news/entertainment..Lets take in that sense thats all..
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Mon Jan 19 04:41:42 EST 1998
I agree with BS. If one discounts KB from the list of top TF directors, it shows his lack of knowledge. The fact that KB was the prime person behind ousting IR from the commercial No.1, should not stop from giving his due.
- From: k.r.ravi (@ 219.middletown-52.va.dial-access.att.net) on: Sun Mar 22 03:25:55 EST 1998
If KB was a great director then why the hell was he doing politics rather than think about another good film ?????
Probably KB can contest for an election, in the murky world of indian politics.
- From: arunkumar (@ 202.54.33.213) on: Fri Aug 21 10:39:06 EDT 1998
Thanks for reviewing revolutionary writings of PAAMARAN.
He is a close friend of mine
You can mail paamaran at
paamaran@usa.net
or
paamaran
586 db road,
rs puram
coimbatore 641002
India (phone 456705)
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Jan 9 00:59:33 EST 1998
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