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A JOURNEY WITH K.V. MAHADEVAN

Topic started by Manisekaran (@ 161.142.2.11) on Fri Jun 14 01:54:38 EDT 2002.
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This is an effort, in a modest way, to trace the great contributions of KVM to the Tamil Film Music. As Tamil Film songs originate from the Tamil films, I am aslo taking the liberty of discussing the background of the films where KVM had comsposed- with the intention of adding spice. I believe this article would serve as a nostalgic tonic to the fans of old songs.

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• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 195.188.191.69) on: Wed Jul 3 12:30:45 EDT 2002
  
  Manisegaran, you have left out the great 'kalaimagaL enakkoru ANai ittAL', an awesome TMS-PS number. Hail TMS !!!
  
  
• From: kik (@ 207.0.105.152) on: Wed Jul 3 22:51:59 EDT 2002
  
  Few more missing songs - aathi parasakthi has a short song set to the tune of ayigiri nandini (mahishasura mardhini stotram) when S Varalakshmi kills (mahisha?)asura.
  
  thirumaal perumai - Nagesh in the kathakaalakshepam that is the frame for the individual stories sings maname kanamum maravathey jagannaathan malar pathamey (voice SG). Of course, the original appears in MS Subbulakshmi's voice in Savithri (1940?) - so the composition is not KVM's, but the orchestration probably is.
  
  Didn't sakthi leelai also come out at the same time? Was it by KVM, kunnakudi or someone else?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226) on: Wed Jul 3 23:43:05 EDT 2002
  
  Sakthi Leelai was by T.KRamamoorthy.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Thu Jul 4 13:19:14 EDT 2002
  
  Manisegaran:
  
  thx for the good work. We await you eagerly.
  
  
• From: kik (@ 207.0.105.137) on: Thu Jul 4 22:23:19 EDT 2002
  
  Manisegaran: Gurudakshinai was also an APN/KVM movie made under the Sri Vijayalakshmi Pictures banner. Was this a success/failure? Going by the starcast (Sivaji, J, Padmini) seems like it could have been one - however, none of the songs appears to have been a big hit.
  
  Sampoorna Ramayanam remade in color in 1972? also had music by KVM - the film has a multilingual soundtrack in tamil/telugu/hindi. I believe both the VCD and a DVD are available.
  
  KVM also gave music for Gnanakuzhanthai (1979) and Deiva Thirumanangal (late 70s) two more purana-based movies, no doubt inspired by the 60s APN efforts.
  
  Raj: one correction - the sambo mahadeva song is not a SG-PS duet. PS comes in at the end to recite a devaram verse (naathan thaaL vaazhga) and SG's song is over by the time she starts.
  
  
• From: K (@ 68.80.34.204) on: Thu Jul 4 23:07:12 EDT 2002
  
  kik, but since it's all in one song, it is a duet right?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226) on: Fri Jul 5 03:58:17 EDT 2002
  
  GananakKuzandthai has only one good song and very good one.
  "Osaiiiiii Sura laya osai kodutha nayahiye" by PS/VJ (I dont remember. mostly PS).
  
  
• From: kik (@ 207.0.105.175) on: Fri Jul 5 23:52:55 EDT 2002
  
  K: A duet means there is give and take (alternating) between the male and female voices. There are any number of instances with back-to-back songs sung in different voices that are clubbed together for convenience - e.g. mannavan vanthaanadi begins with a chorus singing kalaimagaL thuNai kondu vinai venRu pugazh konda kaavalan vaazhga vaazhga... Should we call mannavan vanthaanadi PS with chorus? Karnan has 4 poets reciting verses with 4 different voices - is this a (4-way) duet?
  
  GR: Gnanakuzhanthai has several devaaram verses set to tune by KVM - thOdudaiya seviyan (PS), maasil veeNaiyum (TMS), the poompaavai sequence (SPB) etc. Apart from this is the VJ-TMS duet paalOdu then kalantha abhishegam and VJ's solo poothathu kamalam. All are good songs, though I remember only thOdudaiya seviyan, osai kodutha (PS), and paalOdu getting air time.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226) on: Sat Jul 6 04:34:50 EDT 2002
  
  kik, I saw that movie long back and I dont remember the other songs. But "Osai Kodutha Naayahi" is still in my mind. So I could have concluded wrongly. any way to get those songs?
  
  Deivath Thirumanagkal has 3-MDs, 3-Directors.
  
  KVM - Meenatchi Thirumanam
  GKV - Valli Thirumanam
  MSV - Srinivasa Thirumanam (Directed By Sankar)
  I dont remember other directors.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on: Mon Jul 8 00:03:19 EDT 2002
  
  Till now Mannavan Vandanadi Is said like this "Psusheela Kuzhuvinar Paadiyadhu"
  
  & That Mahadeva Song is SAid" Seerkazhi Govindarajanum, Psusheelavum Padiyadhu"
  
  
• From: nagarajan (@ 209.58.26.20) on: Mon Jul 8 05:15:49 EDT 2002
  
  dear raj,
  if any song is in chorus, they should be there for the full song - mannavan vandhaanadi song - the chorus starts in the beginning and after that only PS (in the film only padmini dances and nobody else) - therefore, mannavan vandhaanadi song is PS only.
  
  Similarly, the song in thiruvilaiyaadal cannot be termed as a duet.
  
  
  
• From: kik (@ 207.0.105.161) on: Tue Jul 9 20:58:26 EDT 2002
  
  GR: Issue with sharing the songs is the same as what we discussed before. As you know from the VJ thread, I put a bunch of VJ solos and duets in my yahoo briefcase. Naaz tried it and said he could not access it - not sure if he tried the right place. I gave the link in that thread. The songs are there still!
  
  
• From: RAGAPRAVAHAM SUNDAR (@ 61.11.76.89) on: Wed Jul 10 03:00:16 EDT 2002
  
  TALKING ABOUT KVM SONGS, MENTION MUST BE MADE ABOUT HIS SONGS OF 1950S WHERE HE COMPOSED ABALAI ANJUGAM... VENNILA KUDAI PIDIKKA, FILM AADA VANTHA DEIVAM... ASAIKONDEN AMUDHAMEY IN JOUNPURI RAGAM AND SAMPOORNA RAMAYANAM...PADHUKAIYE THUNAIYAGAM (SAAMA), MAKKAL PIRANDHATHAI IN ABHERI, KOONDUKKILI...VAANGA ELLARUME SERNDHU AND AAHA NAMAASAI (DARBARI KANADA). ANY COMMENTS?
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Jul 10 04:43:12 EDT 2002
  
  kik:
  
  To share files, you need mark all of them public and put the person's yahoo id in your friend's list.
  
  
• From: kik (@ 207.0.105.130) on: Thu Jul 11 00:05:22 EDT 2002
  
  Ragapravaham Sundar: Are you not the person running the vintage heritage society in chennai? Can you post the planned schedule of events (music programs, movie screenings,...)? I plan to be in chennai this dec/jan and would love to attend the programs - last time I noticed that I discovered the programs after the fact in the Hindu's reviews. Also, any pointers on sources for recording vintage songs or collectors willing to play the songs so we can at least hear them?
  
  On the movies you list, I like the aadavantha deivam title song a lot. sampoorna ramayanam - I initially didn't like the songs in this movie apart from the popular CSJ numbers. But, I watched the movie again after Manisegaran's write-up in this thread and really enjoyed all of them. I noticed that a couple songs from Manisegaran's list were missing - probably cut from the print and the video. indru pOi naaLai vaarai picturization was superb.
  
  AVR: They are marked public - directory songs2 and I believe the address is briefcase.yahoo.com/kishorekca. If anyone has a yahoo id to test, pl email me at kishorekca@yahoo.com and we'll test it.
  
  BTW listened to 2 songs that appear to be based on the same melody by KVM (same singers: TMS, PS):
  maganE nee kEL:
  oththa kallu mookkuthi jolikkuthadi
  kittE vanthu mutham thara thadukkuthadi
  
  kaattu rOjaa:
  chinna chinna kannanukku enna vEndum
  singaara mozhi sollum poNNu vEndum
  
  The first has a folk-song style with nadaswaram in the interludes and a strong beat. The second has a jazzy interpretation right from the opening bars and the instruments are kept to a minimum overall. Are these the same raagam?
  
  
• From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5) on: Fri Jul 12 00:28:13 EDT 2002
  
  Guys.. any famous number by KJY under the music direction of KVM...?
  
  
• From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5) on: Fri Jul 12 00:28:43 EDT 2002
  
  May be "Pallandu Vazhga" songs..
  
  
• From: Manisegaran (@ 161.142.2.11) on: Tue Jul 16 22:31:44 EDT 2002
  
  PART 26
  
  FAMOUS MOVIES OF THE 1950s
  
  In this section I am discussing some of the best films and songs of the 1950s. Not all songs of the films of the 1950s were great hits. KVM had lesser films in the 1950s and it was only in he 1960s that he had more chances knocking at his door. Therefore I am picking only films and songs that created some impact on the fans.
  
  
  
  MUDALAI (1957)
  
  This is a M.A. Venu Pictures directed by Mukta Seenivasan. Mukta R. Seenivasan himself has said in an interview that the film was a low budget movie taken with a budding actress Devika and an upcoming actor S.S. Rajendran. But the movie was completely salvaged by KVM’s music. According to Mukta Seenivasan this movie was a great success in those days:
  
  There is a solo by Jikki
  
  YAVVANNA RAANITHAAN
  ISAI PAADUM VAANITHAAN
  EN MELE AASAI KOLLUM
  ILAINYARUM KODITHAAN
  
  
  M.S. Rajeswary gives this solo:
  
  ENGIRUNTHO VANTHAAR EN
  ITHAYAM KAVARNTHAAR-
  EN VAAZHVIL NAAN KANDA MIGA NALLAVAR
  
  
  There is a duet by T.M.S and M.S. Rajeswary
  
  KUNGUMA POTTUKKAARA
  KONA KIRAPPUKKAARA
  UNNAIYE NAAN MARAVENE
  
  MATHAPPU SELAIKKARI
  MAGHIZHAMBOO RAVIKKAIKAARI
  UNNAIYE NAAN MARAVENE
  
  Rathnamala and G. Kasthuri sing this song:
  
  SIKKANAMA VAAZHANUM
  SERTHU VAIKKA PAZHAGANUM
  
  
  The all time popular song of TMS is:
  
  ERIKKARAYIN MELE
  PORAVALE PON MAYILE
  ENNARUMAI KAATHALIYE
  ENNAI KONJAM PAARU NEEYE
  ANNAM POLA NADAI NADANTHU
  SENDRIDUM MAYILE
  AASAI THEERA NILLU KONJAM
  PESUVOM KUYILE
  
  THENNAI MARACHOLAIYILE
  CHITTU POLE PORA PENNE
  CHITTU POLE PORA PENNE
  NILLU KONJAM NAANUM VAAREN
  SERNTHU PESI POVOM KANNE
  ANNAM POLE NADAI NADANTHU SENDRIDUM MAYILE
  AASAI THEERA NILLU KNOJAM PESUVOM KUYILE
  
  
  MAAMARA THOPPINILE
  MACHAAN VARUM VELAYILE
  KOBAM KONDA MAANAI POLE
  ODALAMO PEN MAYILE
  ANNAM POLE NADAI NADANTHU SENDRIDUM MAYILE
  AASAI THEERA NILLU KNOJAM PESUVOM KUYILE
  
  
  
  M.S. Rajeswary sings another song:
  
  AASAI KALYANAM-NALLA
  ANBU KALYANAM
  ATHI VIRAIVIL AVARKKUM ENAKKUM
  NADAKKUM KALYANAM
  
  
  Seergazhi Govindarajan comes with a solo:
  
  KAALAMADI KAALAM KALI
  KAALAMADI KAALAM
  
  There is a group song by Sundram, Ponnusamy, Ratnamala, and Kasthuri:
  
  ENGA MUTHALALI
  THANGA MUTHALI
  EZHAIGALIN THUYARAI NEEKUM
  NALLA MUDALAALI
  
  
  This is a simple film that became a hit on account of the good songs and the storyline of an employer supporting the working society.
  
  
  
  
• From: Manisegaran (@ 161.142.2.11) on: Tue Jul 16 22:48:27 EDT 2002
  
  SECTION 27
  
  THAI PIRANTHAAL VAZHI PIRAKKUM (1958)
  
  This is a film starred by S.S. Rajendran, Prem Nasir, MN Rajam and Rajasulochana with some of the very best songs by KVM. This was certainly a milestone in the musical legacy of KVM, but did not do very well in the box office. This film boasts of many good songs sung by a variety of singers.
  
  
  A famous song by Jikki goes:
  
  THAI PIRANTHAAL VAZHI PIRAKKUM
  THANGAMEY THANGAM
  THANGACHAMBA NEL VILAYUM
  THANGAME THANGAM
  
  T.M.S sings a comedy song:
  
  NINAICHATHU ONNU
  NADANTHATHU ONNU
  ATHANALE THAVIKKUTHU AMMAKKANNU
  
  
  Seergazhi and Jamunarani give this wonderful song:
  
  SOLLATTUMA SOLLATTUMA
  RAGASIYATHAI SOLLATTUMA
  THULLI ODUM KAALAIGALA
  ULLAKKATHAI SOLLATTUMA
  
  T. M. S. and R. Balasaraswathy Devi give this sad duet, which is the only song they had sung together:
  
  
  EZHIYORAI THAAZHTHI
  VALIYORAI VAAZTHUM
  ULAGE UN SEYALTHAAN MAARATHO
  
  K. Jamunarani gives this most wonderful song:
  
  KAALAM SIRITHU
  KANAVUGAL PERITHU
  KAVALAI PADUVATHEN MANATHU
  SOLAI YAVVANAM KONJUM MOGANAM
  PIRIVU ENBATHE ARITHU
  
  
  
  M.S. Rajeswary sings this song penned by PK Krishnamurthy:
  
  MANNUKKU MARAM BARAMA
  MARATHUKKU KODI BAARAMA
  ILAIKKU KAAI BARAMA
  PETREDUTHA KUZHANTHAI
  THAAIKKU BAARAMAA
  
  
  There is a song that Kannadasan wrote while waiting in his car for the train to cross at a railway crossing. Trichy Loganathan took note of the song that Kannadasan wrote on a cigarette packet paper, and requested Kannadasan that he be given the chance to sing that song when the song is recorded later. Kannadasan allowed this, and that great song is:
  
  
  ASAIYE ALAIPOLE
  NAAMELLAM ATHAN MELE
  ODAM POLE AADIDUVOME
  VAAZHNAALILE
  
  
  We have already spoken of the great song by Seergazhi Govindarajan but it is still worth going through the beautiful poetic lines of Suratha:
  
  AMUTHUM THENUM ETHARKU-NEE
  ARUGINIL IRUKKAYILE ENAKKU
  
  ARUVI THARUM KULIR NEER ANBEY INIMEL
  ATHUVUM SUDU NEER AAGUM NAMAKKU
  ATHUVUM SUDU NEER AAGUM NAMAKKU
  
  (AMUTHUM THENUM)
  
  NILAVIN NIZHALO NIN VATHANAM
  PUTHU NILAI KANNADIYO UNTHAN KANNAM
  MALAYIL PIRAVAA MAAMANIYE NAAN
  KOIYUM KOIYAA KANIYE
  VAAN AMUTHUM THENUM ETHARKU
  
  
  VIZHIYALE KAATHAL KATHAI PESU
  MALAR KAIYALE SANTHANAM POOSU
  THAMIZH MOZHI POLE SUVAIYOOTTUM SENTHENE
  UDAL NAAN UYIR NEE THAANE
  VAAN AMUTHUM THENUM ETHARKU
  NEE ARUGINILI IRUKKAYILE ENAKKU.
  
  
  As mentioned earlier, Seergazhi Goivindarajan used to sing this cong after the interlude at carnatic song functions. KVM himself has a tremendous liking for this song. This song has brought so much name and fame to Suratha the lyricist, KVM the composer, and Seergazhi Govinderajan the singer, not leaving out Prem Nasir who gave lip movements in the film.
  
  
  

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