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Topic started by Nammaooruvalen (@ 202.184.134.10) on Wed Jul 23 06:11:54 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

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From: Nammaooruvalen (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Wed Jul 23 06:13:22 EDT 1997

Let us start a discussion on the firsts of TFM contributors - that is their first numbers or movies.

SINGERS
SPBala - 1000 nilavey vaa or Vetrimeethu ventri vanthu or Iyarkeiyennum ilaya kani
Malaysia Vasu - Paalu vikkira Padma wohn paalu romba suthama?
Mano - Not the Ramarajan movie
Chitra - Sang with Ilayaraja in Murali's movie, not Fadzil's movie
TMS - ??
P. Suseela - ??
S. Janaki - Singaara Valeneh Deva (???)
Jayachandran - ??
Ilayaraaja - ??
Deva - Kavaleh padathey sagothara (Kathal Kottai)
Gangai Amaran - ??
Arun Mozhi - Kamalahasan movie (Soora Samharam?)
Kamalahasan - Gniayara oli mazhaiyil
PB Srinivas - ??
AM Raja - ??
Jikki - ??

LYRIC WRITERS
Kannadhasan - ??
Vaali - ??
Vairamuthu - Nizhalgal
Ilayaraaja - Idhaya Koyil (???)
Gangai Amaran -

MUSIC DIRECTORS
Ilayaraaja - Annakili
Gangai Amaran - ??
M'sia Vasu - Samanthi Poo
MSV - ??
Deva - ??
ARR - Rojaa
Sirpy - ??

Shall we each contribute to the list and than I will volunteer to make the complete list for the TFM page? Your input is required - please do not deviate from this original objective.
From: Kanchana (@ ww-tb02.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Jul 23 09:59:10 EDT 1997

Nammoor:
I think SPB's first song was "Malligai Poo Vaangi Vanthaen Punnagayin Ninaivaaga" (movie??), but his first hit was "Aayiram Nilavae Vaa"
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Wed Jul 23 12:37:54 EDT 1997

I think Kanchana is right about SPB.
Yesudas - Neeyum Bommai Naanum Bommai (Bommai)
MSV - Genovaa (with TKR)(thanks PPP)
P. Susheela - I think the movie is Annai ?
Jeyachandran - Sridhar's movie in which Vishnuwarthan was introduced in Tamil movies - Oh , I got it - Alaigal?

Ilayaraajaa (as singer)- Solam vethakkiyile - 16 vayathinile.
Vaani Jeyaram - Malligai en mannan mayangum (Dheerga Sumangali)
Sujatha - kaalai paniyil Aadum malargal (Gayathri)
B.S. Sasirekha - Kelviyin nayagane (Apoorva Raagangal)
From: KRISHNAN (@ uswgmn3.uswest.com) on: Wed Jul 23 13:31:41 EDT 1997

ARUN MOZHI'S FIRST SONG

NAAN ENBATHU NEE ALLAVO
From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Wed Jul 23 17:51:30 EDT 1997

First song

SPB -- iyarkai yennu ilaya kanni -- shanti nilayam
chitra -- poojaikettha poovithu -- neethaana antha kuyil
swarnalatha -- chinnanchiru kiliye -- neethikku thandanai
s.Janaki -- movie is vithiyin vilayattu Md is chalapathi rao
mano -- then mozhi yen thamizh mozhi -- sollath thudikkutghu manasu
malasiya -- aatukutti muttai yittu -- 16 vayathinile

deva's first movie is vaigasi poranthaachu(i guess)
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Wed Jul 23 20:57:57 EDT 1997

Arvind,
Vaikaasi poranthaachu is the movie that made DEva famous, I
think he has done a few movies before.

MD:
Gangai amaran - Mouna geethangal
Athithyan - Amaran

Singer:
Deva - aadathadaa aadaathada (senthoora paandi)
(inspiration for "athaandaa ithaandaa"? )
From: Vadi Velu (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Wed Jul 23 21:01:30 EDT 1997

We seem to differ on SP Bala's first song. Which one is it - 1000 nilavey vaa, Vetrimeethu ventri vanthu, Iyarkeiyennum ilaya kani or Malligai Poo Vaangi Vanthaen.
Namooru is right on M'sia Vasu's 1st song. This song is from the movie Madras to Goa (or something like that), way before 16 Vayathinile.
Malligai song made VJ famous but her first song was ....!
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jul 23 21:24:08 EDT 1997

On SPB's first song:

Although the 4 movies,

Adimai Penn (1000 nilave vaa)
Shanthi Nilayam (iyarkaiyennum)
Ponnu Maappillai (malligai poo vaangivandhen)
(I think the song is from this movie)
& Kanni Penn (Powrnami nilavil)

were all released in 1969, I think Adimai Penn
was the first one.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jul 23 21:29:03 EDT 1997

Kannadhasan's first movie as lyricist:
Kanniyin Kaadhali (1948), I think. But, please
don't ask me what his first song in that
movie was. I have no idea!
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Thu Jul 24 02:33:26 EDT 1997

1) Mano - aNNE aNNE nee enna sonnE - poovizhi vaasalilE
2) P Suseelaa - unnai (hiccups) kaN thEduthE - kaNavanE kaN kaNda theivam
3) Deva as MD - manasukkEththa magaraasaa
4) ARR as MD - yOththaavu in Malayalam dubbed as Asokan in Tamil.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu Jul 24 04:33:24 EDT 1997

SPB has said in one of his interviews that
"iyarkayennum" is indeed his first song,
But Adimaipenn got released first.
(Similar case for chitra: sang "poojaiketha"
first, but "poove poochoodavaa" came before.)

I think Arvind (not Aravind) is right about
Mano. i.e Thenmozhi is his first.
From: Nammaooruvalen (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Thu Jul 24 06:00:47 EDT 1997

Here is the first list. There are still some controversies and doubts. Please clarify all "??"

MALE PLAYBACK SINGERS
TMS - ??
PB Srinivas - ??
AM Raja - ??
Ghandasala - ??
S. Govindarajan - ??
AL Ragavan - ??
SPBala - 1000 nilavey vaa (Adimai Penn) / Iyarkeiyennum ilaya kani (Shanti Nilayam)
KJ Jesudass - Neeyum Bommai Naanum Bommai (Bommai)
Mano - Then mozhi (Sollath Thudikkutghu Manasu) / Annehx2 (Poovizhi Vaasaliley)
Malaysia Vasu - Paalu vikkira Padma wohn paalu romba suthama? (Madras to Goa)
Jayachandran - ?? Alaigal?
Arun Mozhi - Naan Yenbatho (Soora Samharam)
MSV - Genovaa (with TKR)
Ilayaraaja - Solam vethakkiyile (16 vayathinile)
Deva - Aadathadaa aadaathada (Senthoora Paandi)
Gangai Amaran - ??
Kamalahasan - Gniayara oli mazhaiyil (??)

FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGERS
P Suseelaa - Unnai kann Ttheduthe (Kanavaney Kann Kanda Theivam)
S. Janaki - Singaara Valeneh Deva (Vithiyin Vilayattu)
Vaani Jeyaraam - Malligai en mannan mayangum (Dheerga Sumangali)
Chitra - Poojaikettha Poovithu (Neethaana Antha Kuyil)
Jikki - ??
Sujatha - Kaalai Paniyil Aadum malargal (Gayathri)
B.S. Sasirekha - Kelviyin nayagane (Apoorva Raagangal)
Swarnalatha - Chinnanchiru kiliye (Neethikku Thandanai)

LYRIC WRITERS
Kannadhasan - Kanniyin Kaadhali (1948)
Vaali - ??
Vairamuthu - Nizhalgal
Ilayaraaja - Idhaya Koyil (???)
Gangai Amaran -

MUSIC DIRECTORS
Ilayaraaja - Annakili
Gangai Amaran -Mouna geethangal
M'sia Vasu - Samanthi Poo
MSV - ??
Deva - Manasukkeththa Magaraasaa
ARR - Rojaa
Sirpy - ??
Vijayabhaskar
Athithyan - Amaran
From: Thenraja Kaliappn (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Thu Jul 24 08:52:55 EDT 1997

I am sure 'Iyarkeiyennum ilaya kani' is not SPB's first song. I will try to find any evidence on that.

I have read in Bommai magazine long time ago about P.Susheela's first song. I don't remembber the movie but it is not 'Unnai kann Ttheduthe'.
From: Kanchana (@ ww-ti02.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Jul 24 16:22:07 EDT 1997

I'm sure "Iyrkayennum" is not SPB's first song too.

Kamalahaasan's "Gnayiru oli mazhayil" is from "Andharangam"
From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Thu Jul 24 17:27:48 EDT 1997

Iyarkai yennu is the first released song of
SPB. Does anybody know the first song of S. P Shyalaja
movie is Ponnu oorukku puthusu, MD is IL

Nammaooruvalen Janaki's first song is not singaravela deva, arunagirinathar came b4 that and
vithiyin vilayattu even b4 that. btw singaravelane deva is from konjum salangai
From: PG (@ client-116-4.bellatlantic.net) on: Thu Jul 24 19:10:16 EDT 1997

S P Shailaja sings Solaikkuyile from P O Pudhusu. But i don't know if that is her first song.
From: Vadi Velu (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Thu Jul 24 21:55:02 EDT 1997

I have read somewhere that SPBala's stars are shining cos his very first song was "Vetri methu vetri vanthu yannai cherum." Is this right?
Confirmed that Solaikuyile is SP Sailaja's first song.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Jul 24 22:53:35 EDT 1997

Innum SPB first song patri kuzhappureengale?
Rajaraman-thaan clear-aaga ezhuthivittaare?
Rendu vaaraththukku munnaal AdimaiPenn padam
Malaysia TV-yil paarththen; adhil, pinnani
arimugam: S.P.Balasubramaniyam endru podappattadhu
titles-il. En Akka enakku kooriya sila thagavalgal:
SPB mudhalil paadiyadhu Hotel Ramba endra
padaththil (Telegu?) SPB first approached
MSV; avar MSV-yidam paadi kaanbiththa paattu:
Nilave ennidam nerungathe. "Un uchcharippu
innum sariyaa illai, sari pannittu vaa" endru
anuppi, pinnar avar SPB-yai mudhan mudhalaaga
"iyarkaiyennum" paadalil record seydhaar.
Eninum, Adimai Penn padam Shanthi Nilayam
padaththirkku mun release seyyappattadhu.
So, first define clearly what you mean by
"First" and then choose accordingly. VadiVelu
sonna "vetri meedu" was in Thedi Vandha Maappillai
which came in 1970, a year after the movies
A.P and S.N. The song, "Malligai poo vaangi
vandhen" is from the movie PaalKudam, which
was also released in 1969 (after A.P and S.N).
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Fri Jul 25 00:10:02 EDT 1997

To Rajaraman

I am 100% sure that, 'aNNE aNNE' is Mano's first song. I remember seeing Mano's name in the titles with 'aRimugam' within braces. I do not know how to prove this.

To Sathyakeerthi

naanum 'adimaip pENN' paarththEn. Titles just showed 'Balasubramaniam' even without initials. It did not say anything like aRimugam or whatever.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri Jul 25 01:06:55 EDT 1997

While the fights go on, let me add some more
to the list:

Singers:
MSV - NOT Genova ( I think this should
appear in the MD list)
Karthik Raja - Enakkoru magan pirappan. song
goes like "aathu mettula' or something like
that ( as a full-fledged singer)
T. Rajendar - Thatti paathen kottangachi (Thangaikkor geetham)
A.R Rahman - Oorvasai (kaadhalan)
Unnikrishnan - Uyirum neeye (Pavithra)
Gangai amaran - solai pushpangale(ingeyum oru gangai) ?? (title "gangai" amaran-ukkaaga pottaangalaa?)

MD:
T Rajendar - Oru thalai raagam
Karthi Raja - maanikkam (but has done individual
songs in Paandiyan, Ponnumani, etc.)
Yuvan shankar Raja - Aravindhan
MSV-TKR - Genova
MSV - ?
Ramamoorthy - Naan ?
SPB - Thudikkum karangal ?
Vidyasagar - movie in which janakaraj first
acted as hero. (Robert-)Rajasekar acts and directs. It's a dabba movie.
TMS - ?
Sankar ganesh - ?
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Fri Jul 25 08:16:59 EDT 1997

Singers:
MSV - 'Paalirukkum Palamirukkum' - humming with PS
MD
Shankar-Ganesh - Pugundha Veedu
MSV - Kalangarai Vilakkam(?)
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Fri Jul 25 23:52:17 EDT 1997

T kaliappan,

I think we shdn't count humming songs. (If that was the case,
ARR first "sang" in chinna chinna aasai.)

Isn't puguntha veedu by AM Raja?

One more first:
Hariharan - Thamizha thamizha (Roja)
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat Jul 26 01:19:02 EDT 1997

Rajaraman:

Thenraja is right about Pugundha Veedu; in fact,
SG appear "on stage" in one of the scenes
in the movie. But I am not sure if that was
SG's first movie.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat Jul 26 01:23:30 EDT 1997

SG as MD:

Idhaya Veenai, Naan En Pirandhen and Pugundha
Veedu, all came in 1972. Which one is SG's
first?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat Jul 26 01:30:03 EDT 1997

Thenraja:

Isn't MSV's first movie Kuzhandhaiyum Dheivamum?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat Jul 26 01:46:35 EDT 1997

Thenraja:

Even if you go by humming, I think "thazhaiyaam
poo mudichchu" of Baaga Pirivinai came
earlier. If you go by singing and not humming
isn't the song, "viNNOdu maNNai vaiththaan"
(by MSV & PS) in Veera Thirumagan, the first
for MSV?
From: pg (@ client-116-1.bellatlantic.net) on: Sat Jul 26 05:16:38 EDT 1997

IR's first as lyricist : Samayal paadame from Manipoor maamiyar (never released I hear)
From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 202.54.10.69) on: Sun Jul 27 05:54:19 EDT 1997

i remember from somewhere that spb's first song is from "hotel rambaa"

knowledgeble... pl. clarify
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Sun Jul 27 22:35:13 EDT 1997

Re: MSV's first song (as singer)

In Pasa Palar (1961) MSV has sung song:
"anbu malar, aasai malar, indha malarammaa";
it came before Veera Thirumagan (1962)'s
"viNNOdu maNNan vaiththaan". Probably it
was the first song sung by MSV.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Mon Jul 28 08:06:34 EDT 1997

To Rajaraman and Sathiya Keerthi
I agree with you not to count 'humming songs'

Sathiya Keerthi - You may be correct about MSV's first song. I am not very sure.
Again, the song for which SG appear on Stage in 'Pugundha Veedu' - Is it 'Maadi vettu ponnu meenaa kodi veetu pakkam ponaa'?

I am still trying to recollect MSV's first as MD
From: NO Valen (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Jul 29 03:40:13 EDT 1997

Nobody seems to have the firsts for the following: Can you help?

MALE PLAYBACK SINGERS
AL Ragavan - ??
AM Raja - ??
Ghandasala - ??
Jayachandran -
PB Srinivas - ??
S. Govindarajan - ??
TMS - ??

FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGERS
Anuradha -
Jency -
Jikki - ??
LR Eswari -
P Suseela -
S. Janaki -

LYRIC WRITERS
Gangai Amaran -
Vaali - ??

MUSIC DIRECTORS
Sirpy - ??
TMS -
Vijayabhaskar -

Can you help?
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Tue Jul 29 05:08:31 EDT 1997

Singer:

Jency - Devan thiruchabai malargale(Avar enakke
sontham)
Anuratha Sriram - Acham acham illai(Indhira) ?

MD

For Sirpy, Gokulam is the earliest I remember.
From: ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Tue Jul 29 07:51:13 EDT 1997

Rajaraman:
If my memory serves me right, Poorani & Indira sang Devan thiruchabai malargale (Avar enakke sondham)
From: ARvind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Tue Jul 29 10:08:01 EDT 1997

chirpi also scored for naan pesa ninaipathellam and captain which came b4 gokulam
From: P Sundram (@ palo1.pacific.net.sg) on: Wed Jul 30 11:02:10 EDT 1997

I understand SPB's first song was from a movie entitled "Hotel Ramba", which may never have been released. This may well have been the movie in which "Malligai Poo" appeared, but I am not too certain.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jul 30 21:07:00 EDT 1997

To: Sundaram

"malligai poo vaangi vandhen" is from the movie
"Paal Kudam" which was released after Adimai Pen
and Shanthi Nilayam in 1969.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Jul 31 00:05:37 EDT 1997

To: Thenraja

You are right about MaadiVeettu ponnu Meenaa.

Re: MSV's first: Nee, Neela Vaanam, Kalangarai
Vilakkam, and Ku.Dheivamum - all came in 1965.
Which one was MSV's first. It is also possible
that Anbe Vaa was the first one eventhough the
movie was released only in 1966.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Jul 31 02:52:36 EDT 1997

Re: Viswanathan-Ramamoorthy's first movie

VR isaiyaimaiththa mudhal padam NS Krishnan
thayaariththa "Panam" endra padamthaan pOlirukku.
Adhu 1952-il veli vandhadhu. Adhe varudaththil
nadigai Bhanumathy thayaariththa "Sandi Raani"
endra padaththukkum VR-thaan MDs. Appuram, 1953-il
thaan Genovaa velivandhirukku. Idhai patri
sariyaana thagavalgal yaarukkaavadhu theriyumaa?
(Ungalukku therinja thaaththaa paattigal
yaaraachchum innum uyiroda irundhaa avargalidam
kEttu paarungalen nanbargale.)

Indha Sandi Raani padaththi oru paattu: "vaan
meethile inba thEn maari peyyudhe". Indha paattu
IsaiGnani-kku romba pudichcha paattaam; adhanaal,
avarum MSV-yum indha mettai konjam maatriyamaiththu
Mella Thirandhadhu Kadhavu endra padaththil
"Vaa vennilaa unnaiththaane vaanam theduthe"
endru pottaangalaam; idhai IsaiGnani oru
pettiyil silliyirukkaar polirukku.
Rajaraman: Indha vivaram unmaiyaanaal, idhai
IR (virumbi) copy adiththa paadal list-il
serththu kollu.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Thu Jul 31 14:42:05 EDT 1997

Sathiya Keerthi,
I have always believed either 'Anbe vaa' OR 'Kalangarai Vilakkam' as MSV's first after TKR parted. I am not quite sure which one?

May be MSV did 'Genovaa' alone before joining TKR in 'Chandi Raani'.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Aug 7 02:06:28 EDT 1997

Thenraja:

En Akka sonna sila thagavalgaL:

1. MSV CR Subbaraman-idam udhaviyaaLaraaga irundha
pOdhu MSV-kku oppandhamaana padam Genoa; Hero: MGR. "pudhiya isai amaippaaLaraa, yaar" endru kettirukkiraar
MGR. "MS Viswanathan endru peyar; CRR-idam Harmonist; nallaa tune pOduvar" endru Producer
solla, MGR maruththirukkiraar. Aanaal Producer
adhai kEtkaamal MSV-yaiyE isai amaikka solliyirukkiraar.
(Pinnar, idhai patri MSV, "MGR mEl kurai solla
mudiyaathu; avarukku aaramba kaalam adhu; pudhu
isai amaippaaLarai makkaL ErpaargaLaa endru
MGR-ukku bayam vandhadhu nyaayamE" endru solli
irukkiraar.) Andha padaththukku 4 paadalgaL MSV
padhivu seydhaar, CRR-idam udhaviyaaLaraaga vElai
seydhu koNdE. Padhivu seydha paadalgaLai kEtka
maalai 4 maNikku varugiREn endru sonna CRR
madhiyam irandhu vittaar. Idhan pin MSV-yum
Ramamurthy-yum iNaindhanar: CRR eduththukkoNda
matra padangaLai mudikka. Ippadi avargaL sErndhu
isai amaikka thodangiyadhu "PaNam" matrum
"SaNdi RaaNi". Aaga, MSV thaniyaaga isai amaiththa
mudhal padam (neengaL solliyiruppadhu pOl)
Genoa-thaan. MSV & VR pirindha pin MSV isai amaiththa
mudhal padam: either K-ViLakkam or K.Dheivamum.

2. P Sushila paadiya mudhal paattu:
1953-il veLi vandha 'Petra Thaai' endra padaththil
varum: "edhukku azhaiththaay ..." - AM Raja-vudan
sErndhu paadiyadhu idhu. NeengaL sonna "unnai
kaN thEduthE" was from K.K.K.Dheivam (1955).

3. LR Eswari paadiya mudhal paattu:
Nalla Idaththu Sambandham (MD: KVM) padaththil varum:
poNNu maappiLLai oNNaa pOguthu jigu jigu vaNdiyilE
Appo avarukku peyar L.Rajeswari. MS Rajeswari-yudan
kuzhappam aagum endru avar LR Eswari aanaar.

Pagalavan Krishnamurthy sonna thagavalgaL:
------------------------------------------
4. Vaali ezhuthiya mudhal TFM paattu:
Moondrezhuththil en moochchirukkum (Dheiva Thaai)
"Moondrezhuththu endru naan M.G.R -ai kurippittEn"
endru pinnar Vaali korriyirukkiraar.
(This was the movie that introduced K Balachander
to Movies.)

5. Pulamai Piththan's first:
Naan Yaar Naan Yaar (Kudiyirundha Koyil)

6. Kannadhasan's first song:
Kalangaathiru manamE, kanavellaam nanavaagum oru dhinamE
(KaLvanin Kaadhali)
From: NOValen (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Thu Aug 7 03:33:37 EDT 1997

Ivvalavu periya encyclopaedia yenneum Sathya Keerthiyei vachikittu ithenei naal alanjirukiromey!
Would you know the origins of the others, I mentioned earlier?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Aug 7 04:12:10 EDT 1997

AMRaja's first song:

Samsaaram samsaaram, sakala kalaa thaaram
(Padam: Gemini's Samsaaram)
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Thu Aug 7 04:59:31 EDT 1997

Sathyakeerthi

"4. Vaali ezhuthiya mudhal TFM paattu:
Moondrezhuththil en moochchirukkum (Dheiva Thaai) "Moondrezhuththu endru naan M.G.R -ai kurippittEn" endru pinnar Vaali korriyirukkiraar.
(This was the movie that introduced K.Balachander to Movies.) "

What does this mean? Where does KB come into the picture?

ellaam sonnInge, aanal aNNi S.Janaki paadiya mudhal paadal edhu enRu kuRippidavillaiyE!!
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Thu Aug 7 11:46:27 EDT 1997

I think KB was introduced as the Vasanakarthaa in Theiva Thai.

AMRaja's first song : the correct words (I think) are

Samsaaram samsaaram
sakala dharma saaram
suga jeevana aadhaaram
From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Thu Aug 7 15:36:35 EDT 1997

KB does that stand for k. balachander if so his first movie is neerkumizhi.

Valee's first song is from chinna annamalai.
not definitely moonrezuthil en moochirukkum. that came way back.
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Thu Aug 7 21:44:13 EDT 1997

TMS's first movie is thookku thookki. I am not sure which song was recorded first. He has sung all the songs in the movie.
Isn't Sirpi's first movie chEran paandiyan?
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Aug 7 23:37:46 EDT 1997

No Ravi. 'cEran paaNdiyan' was scored by Soundharyan. It may probably his first (and last too!!!) movie. It did have some good songs like 'kangaL onRaaka kalandhathaa', 'vaa vaa enthan nilavE veNNilavE'. I am reminded of Anand Babu's dance for that 'sOgap paadal'. My sister used to say - The only song for which he did not dance was 'akaram ippO sikaram aachchu' - sikaram. Are there any other?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Aug 8 00:18:09 EDT 1997

Aravind:

Neerkumizhi was the first movie directed by KB.
Atharkku mun he wrote Kadhai Vasanam for
Dheiva Thaai and Sarvar Sundharam.

Adhu sari, idhu ennayyaa Chinna Annamalai:
appadi peyar koNda padam vandhuchchaa? Illai
summa kiNdal pannureengalaa?
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Fri Aug 8 11:29:05 EDT 1997

KB is KBalachander. KB's first movie is a firector is Neerkumizhi but he was the vasanakarthaa for Theivathai.
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Fri Aug 8 11:30:27 EDT 1997

Sorry about the prev post. Sathiya Keerthi had clarified it.
From: Pagalavan Krishnamoorthy (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Fri Aug 8 13:26:07 EDT 1997

To Arvind:

P.Suseela's first song is not from KKKDeivam. If I remember correctly, its in "Akbar" (a 50s film). The song starts like this:
"kanavu kaNda kaathal...kathai
kaNNEEraachi..
nilaa veesum nEram..mazhai thoovalaachi..
From: Pagalavan Krishnamoorthy (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Fri Aug 8 14:39:44 EDT 1997

Also, the MD for "Akbar" was Naushad. Probably this was a multi-lingual film or so.
From: Arvind not Aravind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Fri Aug 8 15:32:14 EDT 1997

TMS first movie is not thooku thooki
tms first movie for sivaji is thooku thooki and the first song is kurangiliruntu piranthavan manithan.
From: Kannan (@ peugeot.instinet.com) on: Fri Aug 8 18:18:57 EDT 1997

Singers
SN Surendar - ?
TR Mahalingam - ?

sahul hameed -
raasathi en usiru ennathillE (thirudaa thirudaa)
but first released song is - usilampatti pen kutti (Gentle man)

Deepan chakravarthy - ?

sirpy: I think Gokulam came before Captain. Did he score music for Ur panchaayathu/Ur mariyaathai?
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Aug 22 04:24:00 EDT 1997

To everyone out there,
Rajaraman is chasing after me to get the compilation of this list. Before submitting it to him, I'd like to give a LAST OPPORTUNITY to everyone to fill in the blanks or seek a review. Those that have a " / " means that the song/movie is still not settled. This is the list (in alphabetical order and not according to my preference :-)

MALE PLAYBACK SINGERS
AR Rahman - Oorvasai (Kaadhalan)
AL Ragavan - ??
AM Raja - Samsaaram samsaaram, sakala dharma saaram (Samsaaram)
Arun Mozhi - Naan Yenbatho (Soora Samharam)
Deva - Aadathadaa aadaathada (Senthoora Paandi)
Gangai Amaran - Solai pushpangale (Ingeyum oru Gangai)
Ghandasala - ??
Hariharan - Thamizha thamizha (Roja)
Ilayaraaja - Solam vethakkiyile (16 vayathinile)
Jayachandran -
Kamalahasan - Gniayara oli mazhaiyil (Andharangam)
Karthik Raja - Aathu metuleh (Enakoru Magan Ppirappan)
KJ Jesudass - Neeyum bommai naanum bommai (Bommai)
Malaysia Vasu - Paalu vikkira Padma wohn paalu romba suthama? (Madras to Goa)
Mano - Then mozhi (Sollath Thudikkutghu Manasu) / Annehx2 (Poovizhi Vaasaliley)
MSV - Anbu malar, aasai malar, indha malarammaa (Pasa Malar)
PB Srinivas - ??
S. Govindarajan - ??
Sahul Hameed - Raasathi en usiru ennathillE (thirudaa thirudaa) / Usilampatti pen kutti (Gentle man)
SP Balasubramaniam - 1000 nilavey vaa (Adimai Penn) / Iyarkeiyennum ilaya kani (Shanti Nilayam)
TMS - Kurangiliruntu piranthavan manithan (Thooku Thooki)
T. Rajendar - Thatti paathen kottangachi (Thangaikkor geetham)
Unnikrishnan - Uyirum neeye (Pavithra)

FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGERS
Anuratha Sriram - Acham acham illai (Indhira)
Chitra - Poojaikettha Poovithu (Neethaana Antha Kuyil)
Jency -
Jikki -
LR Eswari - Ponnu maappilai onnaa poguthu (Nalla Idaththu Sambandham)
P Suseela - Yedhukku azhaiththaay (Petra Thaai) / Kanavu kanda kaathal (Akbar)
S P Shailaja - Solaikkuyile (P O Pudhusu)
S. Janaki -
Sasirekha - Kelviyin nayagane (Apoorva Raagangal)
Sujatha - Kaalai Paniyil Aadum malargal (Gayathri)
Swarnalatha - Chinnanchiru kiliye (Neethikku Thandanai)
Vaani Jeyaraam - Malligai en mannan mayangum (Dheerga Sumangali)

LYRIC WRITERS
Gangai Amaran -
Ilayaraaja - Samayal paadame (Manipoor maamiyar)
Kannadhasan - Kalangaathiru manamey (Kalvanin Kaadhali)
Pulamai Piththan - Naan Yaar Naan Yaar (Kudiyirundha Koyil)
Vairamuthu - Nizhalgal
Vaali - Moondrezhuththil en moochchirukkum (Dheiva Thaai)

MUSIC DIRECTORS
AR Rahman - Rojaa
Athithyan - Amaran
Deva - Manasukkeththa Magaraasaa
Gangai Amaran -Mouna Geethangal
Ilayaraaja - Annakili
Karthik Raja - Maanikkam
Malaysia Vasu - Samanthi Poo
MS Viswanathan - Genova & Kalangarai Vilakkam/Nee/Neela Vaanam
MSV-TK Ramamoorthy - Panam//Sandi Raani
Ramamoorthy - Naan
Shankar-Ganesh - Pugundha Veedu
Sirpy -Gokulam/Naan pesa ninaipathellam/Captain/Cheran paandiyan
SPB - Thudikkum karangal
T Rajendar - Oru thalai raagam
Vijayabhaskar -
Yuvan Shankar Raja - Aravindhan
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri Aug 22 05:08:33 EDT 1997

Jency - Devan thiruchabai malargale?

TMS nichayamaa Thookku thookki-kku munnaala
paadi iruppaar.

Cheran-Pandiyan was scored by Soundaryan. Leave
it out from Sirpi's probables.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri Aug 22 05:13:20 EDT 1997

Kannadhasan' first - Kanniyil kaathali (not kalvanin kaathali)
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Fri Aug 22 08:45:04 EDT 1997

Playback Singers
Jayachandran - 'ponnenna poovenna kanne
unthan kannadi ullathin munne' from 'Alaigal' (1973)

P.Susheela - Must be petra thaai - 1953 (Akbar came out in 1960)
Music Directoes:
Shankar-Ganesh - Must be 'Maanavan'
Proof:1. 'Pugundha veedu' 1972
'Maanavan' - 1970

2. SG were introduced by Devar - 'Maanavan' is a Devar films movie
From: ju-ju-bi (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Aug 22 09:29:21 EDT 1997

Sirkali's first song is from Kalki's "ponvayal"
1953:

siriputhAn varuguthaiyA

Info taken from Sirkali's Grandson's Home Page
"PADMASHRI" SIRKALI HOME PAGE at

http://w3.icdc.com/~sirkali/
From: meendum-ju-ju-bi (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Aug 22 09:33:10 EDT 1997

MSV-TKR first movie is PANAM - I read it in
the last week's Thinath thanthi VelliMani
where there was an interview with MSV who is
going to ACT in a movie. ALso othjer MDs opinion
about MSV's new acting carrer.
From: Sathya (@ ppp-11.ts-1.hp.idt.net) on: Sun Aug 24 19:27:37 EDT 1997

M.Vasudevan-first song as singer-maalaiyittu poo mudiththa manamakalaaka vithi mounamaaka pokuthamma oorvalamaaka-Film:Thalaip pirasavam;1973;MD-MSV.Muthuraman,Lakshmi.
S.G. first:1967 Makarasi,Devar film.The title goes like this Thevar vazankiya Kavignarin Shankar Ganesh.
From: Sathya (@ ppp-11.ts-1.hp.idt.net) on: Sun Aug 24 19:32:47 EDT 1997

T.K.Ramamurthy first film-Saathu mirantaal 1966
Dir:Bhimsingh?
Naan was released in 1967.
From: Sathya (@ ppp-11.ts-1.hp.idt.net) on: Sun Aug 24 19:42:00 EDT 1997

About TMS first Thookku thookki came in 1954.
I have a song by TMS,M.S.Rajesvari "kulungitum poovilellaam"in the film Valaiyapathi
1952.
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Aug 25 02:26:30 EDT 1997

SA Rajkumar - chinna poovE mella pEsu
Soundryan - chEran paandiyan.
Well if you didn't know it, they are MDs.
As a singer SA Rajkumar's first song must be - ithu muthal muthalA varum paattu from puthu vasantham.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Aug 25 04:23:42 EDT 1997

Nammaooru:

It looks like you have been sent again to the
typing board for another big set of changes.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Mon Aug 25 09:13:47 EDT 1997

It is intersting to note SG came in 1967.

Also on SPB:
Sathya's recent posting on 'List of SPB songs' topic on a song by SPB 'netru varai vinnil irunthaalo' from film 'ethirigal jaakkirathai' which was released in 1967, two years prior to Adimai Pen and Shanthi Nilayam needs new discussion on which is SPB's first.
From: Sathya (@ ppp-2.ts-2.hp.idt.net) on: Mon Aug 25 10:28:53 EDT 1997

Thenraja:
yesterday I was listening to a recording of Mellisai mannarin malarum ninaivukal telecast by madras DD 3 years ago.This was my personal recording .This program starts with a song by SPB(tuned by him).Then SPB starts the interwiew.He goes back to his days with MSV.There he mentions"innorumurai naan oru studentaa mellisai mannaritam poy paadarathukku chance ketkanum;avarin isaiyamaippil Hotel Ramba padaththil muthanmuthalaa paadanum......"
anthap padam vanthathaa?entha varutam?athu telungup padamaa irukkaathu.oru thamiz padamaaka irukkanum.SPB muthan muthalaa paadiyathu entha varutam?ithu thelivaakathavarai "aayiram nilave vaa"paattaiye vaiththuk kollalaam.
From: Sathya (@ ppp-2.ts-2.hp.idt.net) on: Mon Aug 25 10:32:17 EDT 1997

About the Madras DD program which I mentioned,it is Mellisai mannarin thodarum ninaivukal.Sorry for that.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Mon Aug 25 22:44:40 EDT 1997

Sathya

The 'Hotel Ramba' song was SPB's first. It was a Malayalam movie and it was a duet with LRE. But the movie was never released. So we cannot consider it. The dispute is generally between '1000 nilavE' and 'iyaRkai ennum' though many would favour the former. 'ethirikaL jaakrathai' is a very new contender.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Aug 26 05:53:30 EDT 1997

Sathya - romba kolapareengeh!
1. I am 100% positive that paalu vikkireh pathuma was M'sia Vasu's first song. That movie came out before Thaai Paasam
2. Ethirigal Jaakiratheyil SPB-ya? Someone, please confirm this.
From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Tue Aug 26 09:07:41 EDT 1997

S.A Rajkumar's first movie was chinna poove mella pesu he also sang a song in that movie.

yeh pullai karuppaye ulla vanthu padu thaye

that happens to be his first song
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Aug 26 12:38:54 EDT 1997

GanghEi amarEn as lyricist - sentoorappoovE - 16 vayathinelE.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Aug 26 20:03:10 EDT 1997

About TMS's first song:

Yesterday Singapore TV-12 broadcasted an interview
with TMS, in which he said: "Chellap PiLLai endra
padaththil (1952) naan mudhalil paadinEn; AVM
productions; MS Rajeswari-yudan sErndhu paadiya
andha duet-in aaramba varigaL:

naandu nadakkuRa nadaiyilE
namakkE oNNum puriyalE

Vandhavudan naan popular aagavillai. Ramanatha Iyer (GR)
thaan 'thookku thookki' moolam ennai thookki
vittaar."
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Aug 26 20:05:31 EDT 1997

oops. in those lyrics, "naandu" should read as "naadu".
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Thu Aug 28 05:47:00 EDT 1997

Mudinjathaa illeh innum irukkaa...?
From: vaidy (@ cbpxy2.att.com) on: Thu Aug 28 18:24:41 EDT 1997

Hi,
I started reading abt this interesting discussion today.
Is Janaki's first song:
Thookkamum kangalai thazhuvattume...
Amaithiyum nenjil nilavattume .. from the movie sharadha?
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu Aug 28 21:36:15 EDT 1997

where's Ramki ??
Is he giving some inputs?
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Aug 28 22:04:57 EDT 1997

Vaidy

First of all, 'thUkkam uN kaNkaLai' is from 'aalayamaNi'. SJ's first song IS from 'vithiyin viLayaattu' which was not released.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Wed Sep 3 05:21:46 EDT 1997

Hello, hello, can I close the topi now....?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Sep 8 22:49:22 EDT 1997

Aravind:

SJanaki's first song in a released movie ennavendru
ungaLukku theriyumaa? As far as I can list,
malarOdu viLaiyaadum thendralE vaaraay
from the movie, Dheiva Balam (1959)
(with PBS) is her earliest.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Sep 10 19:57:18 EDT 1997

Aravind:

Regarding SJanaki's first: malarOdu viLayaadum
thendralE vaaraay (with PBS) from the movie,
Dheiva Balam (1959) is the earliest song
that I know of. Do you know of any earlier ones?
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Sep 11 02:07:43 EDT 1997

Sathiya Keerthi

You must be right. I saw an interview with SJ sometime in Nov 96 and she narrated the vithiyin viLaiyaattu. She then told what her first released song was. I forgot the year and the movie. I was under the impression that it was 'thEn nilavu' (1960). But if you are sure about 1959, yours must be earlier.
From: pagalavan (@ waterboy.cisco.com) on: Thu Sep 11 10:34:43 EDT 1997

NOV

Gangai Amaran's first film as MD : karai kadandha oruththi This film was directed by MG.Vallaban who himself is a lyricist.
From: ramki (@ ucc207.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Thu Sep 11 14:42:14 EDT 1997

Pagalavan i thin GAs first film is 'malargalae malarungal'(Vijayan,Radhika,Sudhakar and Vanitha)
It had a couple of good songs like

isaikkavo nam kalyaana raagam-JC,SJ
Jnabagam illaiyo kannae-KJYand SJ
kuthum vizhi chudar dhan-PS

since im here very late im not able to figure
out the list clearly. Can anyone post the complete final list pls?
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu Sep 11 21:36:54 EDT 1997

Ramki
is it not Malargalile aval malligai ?

NOV

pl post the list one more time. We'll do one
last update(hopefully) and finalise it..

thanks
From: Pags (@ shad.cisco.com) on: Thu Sep 11 21:48:54 EDT 1997

Ramki & Rajaraman

malargalE malarungaL is by GA. But his debut was karai kadandha oruththi. It has a good SJ solo Odaththila thaNNEEru..peNNoruththi kaNNEEru..Odam pOyi OOru sErumA..
From: Ramki (@ ucc243.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Fri Sep 12 11:16:17 EDT 1997

SG was the MD for malargalile aval malligai
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Mon Sep 15 04:30:44 EDT 1997

This is the revised list for all "posters'" final verification.

Male Playback Singers
AR Rahman - Oorvasi, Oorvasi (Kaadhalan)
AL Ragavan - ??
AM Raja - Samsaaram samsaaram, sakala dharma saaram (Samsaaram)
Arun Mozhi - Naan yenbathu (Soora Samharam)
Deva - Aadathadaa aadaathada (Senthoora Paandi)
Gangai Amaran - Solai pushpangale (Ingeyum oru Gangai)
Ghandasala - ??
Hariharan - Thamizha Thamizha (Roja)
Ilayaraaja - Solam vethakkiyiley (16 vayathinile)
Jayachandran - Ponnena poovenna kanney (Alaigal)
Kamalahasan - Gniayara oli mazhaiyil (Andharangam)
Karthik Raja - Aathu meittuleh (Enakoru Magan Pirappan)
KJ Jesudass - Neeyum bommai naanum bommai (Bommai)
Malaysia Vasudevan - Paalu vikkira Padma wohn paalu romba suthama (Madras to Goa)
Mano - Thein mozhi yenthen thein mozhi(Sollath Thudikkutghu Manasu) / Anneh anneh (Poovizhi Vaasaliley)
MSV - Anbu malar, aasai malar, indha malarammaa (Pasa Malar)
PB Srinivas - ??
S. Govindarajan - Siripputhaan varuguthaiya (Ponvayal)
S. A. Rajkumar - Yey pulleh karupaayi - (Chinna Poove Mella Pesu)
Sahul Hameed - Usilampatti pen kutti (Gentle man)
SP Balasubramaniam - Aayiram nilavey vaa (Adimai Penn) / Iyarkeiyennum ilaya kanni (Shanti Nilayam)
TMS - Naadu nadakira nadaiyilley - (Chella Pillai)
T. Rajendar - Thatti paathen kottangachi (Thangaikkor geetham)
Unnikrishnan - Uyirum neeye (Pavithra)

Female Playback Singers
Anuratha Sriram - Acham acham illai (Indhira)
Chitra - Poojaikettha Poovithu (Neethaana Antha Kuyil)
Jamuna Rani -
Jency - Devan thiruchabai malargale
Jikki -
LR Eswari - Ponnu maappilai onnaa poguthu (Nalla Idaththu Sambandham)
P. Leela -
P. Suseela - Yethukku azhaiththaay (Petra Thaai)
S P Sailaja - Solaikkuyile (Ponnu Oorukku Pudhusu)
S. Janaki - Malaroadu vilaiyaadum thendraley (Deiva Balam)
Sasirekha - Kelviyin nayagane (Apoorva Raagangal)
Sujatha - Kaalai paniyil aadum malargal (Gayathri)
Swarnalatha - Chinnanchiru kiliye (Neethikku Thandanai)
Vaani Jeyaraam - Malligai en mannan mayangum (Dheerga Sumangali)

Lyricists
Gangai Amaran - Senthoora poovey(Pathinaaru Vayathiniley)
Ilayaraaja - Samayal paadame (Manipoor Maamiyar)
Kannadhasan - Kalangaathiru manamey (Kanniyil Kaadhali)
Pulamai Piththan - Naan yaar naan yaar (Kudiyirundha Koyil)
Vairamuthu - Pon maalai pozhuthu (Nizhalgal)
Vaali - Moondrezhuththil en moochchirukkum (Dheiva Thaai)

Music Directors
AR Rahman - Rojaa
Athithyan - Amaran
Deva - Manasukkeththa Magaraasaa
Gangai Amaran - Karai Kadantha Oruthi
Ilayaraaja - Annakili
Karthik Raja - Maanikkam
M. S. Viswanathan - Genova & Kalangarai Vilakkam/Nee/Neela Vaanam
Malaysia Vasudevan - Samanthi Poo
P. S. Narasimhan -
S. A. Rajkumar - Chinna Poove Mella Pesu
S. P. Balasubramaniam - Thudikkum karangal
Shankar-Ganesh - Makarasi
Sirpy - Gokulam/Naan pesa ninaipathellam/Captain
Soundaryan - Cheran Pandiyan
T. Rajendar - Oru Thalai Raagam
T.K. Ramamoorthy - Saathu Mirandal
Vijayabhaskar -
Viswanathan-Ramamoorthy - Panam
Yuvan Shankar Raja - Aravindhan
From: please_forgive_me (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Mon Sep 15 04:34:53 EDT 1997

See what happens when I missed cancelling one italics. All my hard work - gone down the drain!
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Sep 15 07:49:43 EDT 1997

NOV: Q. from another thread.. What about ChandraBose as a MD and singer. Also SA Rajkumar has written most of his songs. So we should include him as a lyricist (chinna poovE mella pEsu?). And Manoj Giyan's first movie as MD - oomai vizhigaL. T. Rajendar first movie as lyricist - oru thalai raagam(?).
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Sep 15 07:52:10 EDT 1997

NOV: kavalai padatheer... sari seythaagi vittathu. :-)
From: Ramki (@ b238.bernhard.wmich.edu) on: Mon Sep 15 10:25:37 EDT 1997

Devas first song as a singer-en ooru madhurai pakkam(vaasalil oru vennilla-there is another version by KJY)

Vaali- First song was in karpagam(maybe athaiadi methaiadi)

VSNarasimmans first - Achamillai achamillai

Sirpys first - Sundara Gandam(He is a KBakyarajs intro)

Some more firsts;

Sunandha - kaadhal mayakkam(pudhumai penn)
kalyani menon - nee varuvai ena naan irundhen(sujatha)
TKKala - thaayai chirandha kovilum illai(Agathiyar)

BalaBharathi(MD)-Amaravathi
Amsalekha-paruva raagam
Devendran - Mannukkul vairam
Sangeetha rajan - Poovukkul bookambam
Anand - Sakthi
Thaiyanban - unnidathil naan
Maragadhamani - Vaanamae ellai
Mahesh - Nammavar
Vijay Anand - naan adimai illai
SJanaki - Mouna porattam
KBakyaraj - Idhu namma aalu
suresh peters - Coolie

Panchu Arunachalam(lyricist)-pon ezhil poothadhu pudhu vaanil(kalangarai vilakkam)
Pazhani Bharathi-andha vaanam endhan kaiyil vandhu serum(Gokulam)
From: Ravi (@ hope.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Sep 15 15:23:38 EDT 1997

Bala Barathi -thalai vaasal.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Mon Sep 15 15:27:57 EDT 1997

Ramki:
Maragadhamani's first - Azhagan
From: Ramki (@ csi14.cs.wmich.edu) on: Mon Sep 15 16:47:51 EDT 1997

Thenraja kaliappan i dooubt this. It can be 'nee padhi nan padhi'

Ravi u got that rite abt BalaBarathi(i liked his score for Amaravathi and this caused the slip)
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Mon Sep 15 21:30:09 EDT 1997

Sundara gaandam was composed by Baagya's
music guru(name: Deepak or something like
that). I doubt if he is same as Sirpy.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Tue Sep 16 02:59:54 EDT 1997

I think sunthara kaaNdam in by Bhagyaraj himself. I am not sure.

Regarding MMK. His first recorded album was nee 1/2 naa 1/2. But azhagan was released before that. I remember seeing 'aRimugam' for him in the titles of nee 1/2 naan 1/2.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Tue Sep 16 04:42:35 EDT 1997

Aravind
I'm sure s.kaandam was not by bhagya. He tried
a different MD after his prev debacles.
IMO, though an intelligent movie director,
bhagya has got no good music taste.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Sep 16 05:34:40 EDT 1997

Ravi - Thanx for thirithufying. :-)

Rajaraman - Yenna ippadi sollitteengeh? His movies such as Mundhanei Mudichu, Thooral Ninnu Pochi, Enga Chinna Raasa, etc, have got very memorable numbers. In fact I kind of liked all the songs in the movie which didn't come out for which he MD'ed! Your no-music-taste is IMO more applicable to good-story-teller Visu.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Tue Sep 16 07:50:43 EDT 1997

Arvind and Ramki:
Thanks for correcting me on Maaragathamani.
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Sep 16 08:30:27 EDT 1997

Ar and Ram: I rem. seeing the following in the titles of Azhagan: Thamizh isai vaanil oru puthiya nambikkai natchaththiram Maragathamani...
From: Ramki (@ cs513.cs.wmich.edu) on: Tue Sep 16 15:47:28 EDT 1997

Im pretty sure abt Sirpis intro by Baghya. I liked
a couple of songs. His second film is 'annai vayal'
which too had good nos(compared to his current trash).Later Vikraman used him for 'naan pesa ninaipadhellam' and 'Gokulam'.Songs from these 2 are also good
From: Ravi (@ hope.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Sep 16 18:10:20 EDT 1997

Ramki: I second Rajaram. S.gaandam was by Deepak. oru vELai athu thaan Sirpiyin nija peyarO ennavO.
BTW what is Chandra Bose's first movie as a MD and first song as a singer. I am sure you know it. :-)
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Sep 17 03:31:01 EDT 1997

Ravi

I think CB's first movie as MD was puthu seruppu kadikkum. He has sung for MSV in aaRu pushpangaL - ENdi muththammaa. That may probably be his first song as a singer.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Wed Sep 17 05:52:16 EDT 1997

So, it's back to the drawing board for me! I am not complaining guys, please continue :-)
From: Ramki (@ b225.bernhard.wmich.edu) on: Wed Sep 17 21:41:21 EDT 1997

Ravi his first song as MD is "madhura Geetham'(*ing Vijaykumar,Sripriya and Srividya).
His first song has a singer is of course
'aendi muthamma'
From: Ramki (@ b225.bernhard.wmich.edu) on: Wed Sep 17 21:58:43 EDT 1997

NOV konjam porunga innum konjam varudhu

Devi - Kalyana selai unadhagum naalai(
Ambigai neril vandhal-idhu thappunnu niraiya
per solla poreenga but i came to know this
from her interview to suntv-avanga 10th padikkum
podhu paadina paadal idhu)

Shobha chandrasekar and Surendar - Malai ilam vayadhil(Kannan oru kai kuzhandhai)

Rajinikanth - adikkidhu kuliru(mannan)

Vijay - adiye Aandalu aavin pasumpaalu(Deva)

Sridevi - munne oru kaalathile(moondram pirai)

Manjula - unnai thaane thanjam endru(nallavanukku nallavan)

SRajeswari - veenaiyadi nee enakku(ezhavadhu manidhan)

Latha rajinikanth - ????(tik tik tik)

Vidya - vazhum varai poradu(paadum vanambadi)

TLMaharajan - Maasil veenaiyum(Thiruvarutchelvar)

Deepan Chakravarthy - Poongadhavae(nizhalgal)

Rajkumar Bharathi - chandiranai parthal(Bhrammacharigal)

Suresh Peters - chikku bukku rayile(gentleman)

Unnimenon - pon maanae kobam enne(oru kaidhiyin dairy)

MSrikanth - kaadhal kaadhal endru pesa(utharavindri ulle vaa)

Kovai sounderrajan - yaaro oruthi ezhudhugiraal(anbulla athan)

Jolly Abraham - Adiyenai paaramma pidivadham enamma(vanakathukkuriya kadhaliye)
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu Sep 18 00:07:01 EDT 1997

Latha rajni - netru intha neram(tik tik tik)

Vijay sang in Rasigan("bombaai kutti
sukka rotti") before Deva.

I think we can leave out "paattu padikkum" actors like Rajni, sridevi, etc.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Thu Sep 18 11:11:18 EDT 1997

Shobha chandrasekar has sung for kids in 'nalla perai vaanga vendum pillaikale' with TMS (rickshakkaaran)
From: Ramki (@ ucc240.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Thu Sep 18 14:35:31 EDT 1997

some more:

Ravindran(MD) - Rasigan oru rasigai
Vidyasagar(MD) - Sevagan
Shyam(MD) - Unarchigal
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu Sep 18 21:27:24 EDT 1997

Ramki
Vidyasagar's first is a dabba movie with Janakaraj
as hero and (I think) directed by (Robert)rajsekar.
Padam peru gyabgam illa. Do you recollect it?

Source:his interview
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Sep 18 22:30:11 EDT 1997

Who was the MD for 'yaarO ezuthiya kavithai'? It had a very good song 'paruvam kaninthu vantha paavai varuga'. I think it was Anand Sagar. Did he not any other Tamil movies?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Sep 19 00:02:06 EDT 1997

Thenraja:

nalla pErai vaanga vENdum is from Nam Naadu.

Pags and Others:

I want to reopen Vaali's first. I don't think
it was moondrezhuththil en moochchirukkum (Dheiva Thaai)
since Vaali worked with MDs other than MSV/TKR
before 1963. Now Dheiva Thaai was released in 1964.
But the movies, Nallavan Vaazhvaan (1961),
Neengaadha Ninaivu (1963), Karpagam (1963) etc.
in which a number of songs were penned by Vaali,
came before Dheiva Thaai. Perhaps moondrezhuththil ..
was the first song by Vaali for MGR.
From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Fri Sep 19 08:05:50 EDT 1997

Ramki:

I don't think Malai iLam vayadhil aasai thanai is from Kannan Oru kaikuzhandhai. Pl. verify.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47) on: Fri Sep 19 09:49:39 EDT 1997

Thanks Sathiya Keerthi
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Fri Sep 19 11:36:14 EDT 1997

Which is SPBCharan's first song ?
Is it Deepangal pesum from Devathai ?
From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Fri Sep 19 14:01:45 EDT 1997

Which is the First Tamil Film Song ?
Who was the music director ?
Just Curious :)
From: Ramki (@ ucc246.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Fri Sep 19 14:31:07 EDT 1997

Aravind i think Usha Khanna was the MD for 'yaaro ezhudhiya kavidhai'.She was full of praise for Vaali and VJ in one of her interviews.

Rajaram as far as i know its Sevagan. I remember
this from his interview to Msian tv(Nadhaswara-how is this program now?)

Ravy it should be Kannan oru kaikuzhandhai as this
was SAchandrasekars first directoria venture(adhan
wifekkum Binlawkkum chance)

Sathyakeerthi are u sure that Karpagam was not
vaalis first film??
From: pags (@ shad.cisco.com) on: Fri Sep 19 16:00:01 EDT 1997

Sathyakeerthi

May be you are correct about vaali's first song for MGR. I read somewhere that Vaali wrote his first song for a film azhagar malai kaLLan which was never released.?? But, during his interview, once he mentioned about song as first. May be he wanted to say it was his first (as you guessed) for MGR. Let me collect some more info on this.
From: pags (@ shad.cisco.com) on: Fri Sep 19 16:04:42 EDT 1997

correction to my previous posting:

.... once he mentioned about moonrezhuththil en moochchirukkum.. song as first. ..
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Sep 19 19:57:52 EDT 1997

Ramki:

Idhayaththil Nee was the first movie in
which Vaali & MSV/TKR worked together. Karpagam
was immediately later.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri Sep 19 23:38:22 EDT 1997

Nilavum thaarayum neeyammaa is the
song from Azhagar malaikkallan(1958).
I also remember reading it as his first.
From: pags (@ waterboy.cisco.com) on: Sat Sep 20 02:43:01 EDT 1997

SK

Rajaraman is right about nilavum thaaraiyum neeyamma, ulagam orunaaL unadhamma. I understand that MD for that film (ahagar malaikkaLLan) was "Gopaalam".(I have never heard of this name). My source also says that Vaali wrote his second song for MD KVM. Donot know which film was that.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Tue Sep 23 21:24:09 EDT 1997

Aravind,

did you see Philips Super 10 yesterday? Mano's
first song indeed is thenmozhi.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Tue Sep 23 22:04:41 EDT 1997

Rajaraman

Sorry, I missed the first few minutes of the programme. I saw only from No 8. But the news is surprising. I think there must be a catch here - like the first released song/first recorded song etc.

Anyway. since it is more an authentic and recent news, I think we must give it to 'thEnmozi'. Sorry for the confusion.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Wed Sep 24 22:04:27 EDT 1997

Heard this yesterday in Mvasudevan interview.
He sang first under GKV for the movie
RaththapEi. Didn't mention the song.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Thu Sep 25 02:04:04 EDT 1997

Rajarama - Raththapei was a Malaysian production!
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Sep 25 02:12:59 EDT 1997

Rajaraman:

Appappaa, padam pEr kEttaalE kolai nadungudhu!!!
Indha padaththil nichchayam pEi oru paattu
paadiyirukkumE!
From: Arvind (@ 208.3.135.215) on: Thu Sep 25 13:34:52 EDT 1997

unnikrishnan first song is ennavale, which also fetched him the national award

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