Topic started by bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on Mon May 14 20:40:59 EDT 2001.
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Udhaya gave me these songs by S.P.B which are not originally sung by S.P.B. The songs can be found here: http://www.dhool.com/html/spb_other.html . It looks like this was done during a stage show (and the orchestra is patchy in several places). I personally feel that S.P.B has done a good job in a few songs, like nilavE ennidam nerungaadhE and poonkaathu thirumbumaa. It will be a good exercise to compare him with other singers in this regard. I wish more singers sing such classics that are not originally sung by them.
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- From: Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.140)
on: Fri Oct 5 07:46:12 EDT 2001
But what about muthalan kattai and ettan kattai???
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Fri Oct 5 09:22:03 EDT 2001
fan (@ 202.9.149.128);
Excellent, but if just ignore the idiot at (@ 64.124.150.134) , he is so incompetence in arguing about anything, so he post garbage with no sense, he does not know anything about music, he does not know the true meanings of 1-37 keys in music, he does not know what is shruthi, layam, pallavi, saranam, shanghati, raagam, thaalam, kattai's (1-8), he is a total waste, with no self confidence in his views, he sufferes from inferiority complexity, humans with such menatl disorders do silly things like that, he can not accept the fact SPB is the greatest, perhaps he is jealous of SPB for some reason, just pardon this idiot, do not bother replying to him, because if you do, he will use CTRL+C for copying & CTRL+V for pasting again!
- From: Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.144)
on: Fri Oct 5 09:23:04 EDT 2001
But what about muthalan kattai and ettan kattai???
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Fri Oct 5 11:48:24 EDT 2001
(@ 64.124.150.140) ;
Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) ;
: .. (@ 12.5.10.153) ;
Guys enough is enough, I am Srilankan Tamil, I have learnt Carnatic Music in jaffna, we use the term kattai's in the school, if this not known by the indian tamils, then do not take the mick, Like I said I do not know what the indian tamils call kattais as, you guys are pathetic, every Arab Muslims stick for them selfs, all round world muslims fight togethher, but it is rather sad to see one tamilians (Like the you guys) take the p*ss out the other tamilians like me, srilankan tamil, which is rather sad, I wish I was a muslim, at least they do not take the p*ss out of their brothers!!!
I am not going to take part in this forum again (unless you guys change), all of you guys are intimidating & insulting SPB, there are some decent guys who post here, pls do not degrade them as well.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.135)
on: Fri Oct 5 18:28:12 EDT 2001
"I am not going to take part in this forum again(unless you guys change)..."
You mean unless we all agree that you are right?? I'm afraid I cannot do that.
We are going to miss you.
Goodbye!!!
- From: Manic_basha2001 (@ 195.92.67.72)
on: Sun Oct 7 04:58:49 EDT 2001
Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.135) ;
You are right about those awards for KJY, KJY started his career in 1961, right, while SPb started his career in 1966, I presume SPB's first song is telugu, but what is the name of the song?, and I also presume KJY's first song is a malayalam song, right??.
Can some body tell me how many national awards SPB & KJY have to gether, it is mazing that KJY has been singing for 40 years & SPB has been singing for 35 years, and they both crossed the 40,000 songs record, which till date no other singer has crossed, including M.rafi, Lata & Kishor Kumar.
One draw back of KJY, he is not as versatile as SPB, he is limited to sad songs, devotional & carnatic, but SPB is all rounder, in Cinema, a singer needs to as versatile as possible to modulate , express feelings, this is where SPB has an edge over KJY, M.rafi,KK, etc.
When SPB sings, he gives you picture of the actor's emotions & situation of the songs, TMS was also good at this, but he never had an amazing voice as SPB,nor was he as good as SPB in carnatic songs, although TMS was good at devotional. TMS was good as SPB in higer notes, but not in lower notes, as TMS lacked the bass of SPB.
In order for a singer to be the greatest, a singer must have had exposure to all types of songs, there is no one else who had done this apart from SPB, that's what & his divinest voice make him the greatest ever!
- From: Kannadiga (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Sun Oct 7 19:02:40 EDT 2001
Mr Raguvaran( @64.124.150.135) I always waiting for your replies to Raguvaran@ 212... and I enjoyed a lot. Please dont stop and keep going otherwise I missed you so much.
regards
Kannadiga
- From: Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.131)
on: Mon Oct 8 08:51:17 EDT 2001
Kannadiga:
Raguvaran@212... is fake. He not know anything about muthalan kattai or ettan kattai. I am real Raguvaran.
- From: kannadaiga (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Mon Oct 8 19:35:14 EDT 2001
Thanks for the reply Mr real Raguvaran.I Think this M.katte and E.katte means Mandarasthayi and Taarasthayi, am I right, becoz I dont know Tamil.
regards
Kannadiga
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Oct 9 04:42:41 EDT 2001
kannadaiga (@ 148.87.1.170) ;
Yes That's right, fake raguvaran is at DHCP (@ 64.124.150.131), if you do not believe me go back to the very(first) begining of this thread and you will see I am the real raguvaran, any way, this is to talk about SPB,
By the way raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.131) is born due to some mistake, he was born as premature baby, according to his parents., so pls ignore this idiot.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Oct 11 04:59:21 EDT 2001
Hey Folks
Nandha by YSR, has SPB in most of the songs, at least YSR wants to be famous, although he is good MD, he will not be known, if his songs are not hit, for that any MD need SPB!
- From: Real Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.140)
on: Thu Oct 11 07:07:35 EDT 2001
In an interview to Sumudham, YSR said that making SPB sing for Nandha was a mistake. "My dad forced me to do it" he said. "I wish I had Kamal Hassan sing those songs! Kamal has the deepest muthalan kattai and ettan kattai"!
Kamal rulZ!
- From: fan (@ 202.9.148.73)
on: Thu Oct 11 09:00:20 EDT 2001
real raghuvaran 64. , please stop . with folded hands please stop your views on spb.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Oct 11 09:08:23 EDT 2001
Real Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.135) ;
hahah heheh hheheheh heheh heheh hohohho,
yeah right,
hahah hahaha hahahah
ran out word, u fukin basta*d, what a waste u, I am sure your parents regrets for having u!
why don't you take your street singer mates, like Hariharan, Shanker, Udit, Srinivas, Sonu nigam, Kumar sanu and do your private album in rajasthan, all donkeys will listen to you and your street beggers, guess what you can take your team & sing at funerals as well, at least the mourners will listen to you & your mates
- From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Thu Oct 11 10:48:08 EDT 2001
Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241),
I think you are musically impaired!!!!
Why don't you keep up your words"I will not take part in this DF"Thats the best part of your arguements.Guys what do you say?Am I right??
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Oct 11 10:57:01 EDT 2001
Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) ;
I think you are mentally impared & handicapped
- From: Yakkov (@ 24.218.135.41)
on: Thu Oct 11 11:14:49 EDT 2001
Isai Priyan:
Totally agree
Raguvaran@(212...):
Why don't you keep your promise? stop posting here. As one tamil to another, I request you. See when one muslim asks another, he will obey. but you are tamil and still not accepting another brother tamil's suggestion. Your views have been posted enough times here. Got it. No stop posting. You promised you would. You've reached the bottom of the barrel and are now scraping it.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Oct 11 11:23:30 EDT 2001
Yakkov (@ 24.218.135.41) ;
If u do not want to take in this forum then do so, you can not tell me not take part in it, this forum is not your dad's property, if you want to chant about your fav singer, then do so in a different thread
tikke
- From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Thu Oct 11 11:43:05 EDT 2001
Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
Vaaku thavarathe....
SPB does'nt like anybody who don't keep up their words.Obey your words"Stop Posting".
- From: Real Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.144)
on: Fri Oct 12 00:33:39 EDT 2001
SPB send me mail that Kamal Hassan is bestest singer in universe. "Kamal has the deepest kattais in the world" he said me.
Believe me. Not argu with me . If not I call you all bad names.
I do reserch and see this forum family property of Raguvaran@212.2.14.241. Even SPB say that.
Kamal rulZ
- From: Manithan (@ 195.92.67.65)
on: Sat Oct 13 17:46:41 EDT 2001
hi Raguvaran @64.124.150.137
and
Raguvaran @212.2.14.241,
Please I beg you both to stop this nonesense, you guys are insulting the greatest SPB, please just stick to the topic, if you want bash each other, pls do so, but open a thread called
"Raguvaran212.2.14.241 Vs Raguvaran@64.124.150.137", Please for god sake stop this utter none sense!!
- From: Raguvaran@64.124.150.*** (@ 64.124.150.137)
on: Sat Oct 13 19:47:17 EDT 2001
SPB is ONE OF the greatest singers ever in the history of Indian music and I am a real fan of his voice and versatility. My postings on these threads were in response to the childish and silly statements from a misguided soul.
If any of my postings have hurt or embarassed the great SPB himself or any of his real fans, I apologize for that.
- From: Manithan (@ 195.92.67.65)
on: Sun Oct 14 08:33:24 EDT 2001
Hi to all
Misguided souls & guided soul;
SPB is the greatest singer ever in India Today, but there are other greats like M.rafi, KJY, Ghantasala,BMK,Dr.S.Govinderajan,...etc. BMK, Ghantasala & SPB has similar voice, well that's my opinion, but none of these singers can not express emotions or modulate as amazingly as SPB, I mean SPB coming from a Non-Carnatic background, yet his Classical & ghazals are breath taking, I know for sure that SPB has won a national award for singing ghazals songs in film or some sort, under nort MD, can some one please tell me the name of Film & the MD???
I know till date KJY posess 7 national awards, how many national awards does SPB posess, is it 7 or more???
Much obliged.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 64.124.150.146)
on: Sun Oct 14 10:05:44 EDT 2001
SPB is ONE OF the greatest singers ever. He has won 6 national awards so far - that is less than 7:-)))
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