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If you were the Lyricist.........................

Topic started by Kuzhambiya_kuttai (@ 206-36-31.ipt.aol.com) on Fri Nov 13 22:15:25 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

If you were given chance to change a song or part of song what song/lines would you change?
Some examples:
For Puthu veLLai maZHai song VM first wrote the following lines
"Ithu Kaashmeerama illai kaarkaalamaa?"
"Intha Kovil pura intha kulir thaangumaa?"
Then MR told VM that he should not explicitly say it is kashmir so it was changed
For "Ottakathai kattiko" the initial lines were
"Anthi varum neranthaan"
"aathangarai oram thaan"
Later they found the song would be more appealing if the lines contain more "vallinam" and hence it was Ottagam, kattikko etc....

One DFer pointed out in some other thread that instead of "Inthiran thottathu munthiriye" he would prefer "Inthiran thottathu sundariye" (Nice imagination)
In another thread there was a objection to KD's
"Kaalam pagaithaalum kanavar pani seithu". It was pointed out that it was like women is meant to serve their husband and hence it should have been
"Kaalam Pagaithaalum Kanavar Thunai nindru"

The list goes on.......
"Naan aanai ittal athu nadanthu vittaal"
Vaali initially wrote
"Naan arasan endraal en aatchi yendraal"
MGR said it was tooooooo powerful(DMK's period, and i think there was a rift b/w MGR and DMK) and later these lines were changed


So.... If you were given the chance what song and line would you change?

PS: Topic was started with no intention to hurt any MDs or Lyricist or anyone in DF.

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Responses:

• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.26.37) on: Sat Nov 14 01:24:17 EST 1998
  
  I think I will place a few points regarding the above point. I do not know if they will be appreciated. In fact after hearing "ennavaley" I felt a bit annoyed about the line "kumbittu kannadippaen". Hence I preffered to change the entire song by myself (only for my satisfaction). The fully rewritten song goes as follows:
  
  "Manjariyey adi sundhariyey unnai anudhinam kandiduvaen
  kunjariyey ezhil poochchoriyum undhal koondhalai theendiduvaen
  Undhan selaiyiley pugum thendralidam rou seydhiyai cholli vaippaen
  En paattiniley varum raagathiley oru pudhumayum seydhu vaippaen - sezhum
  Kaattiniley ulla nalmayil pondra un aattaththil manam layippaen"
  
  "Vanji un koondhalil vandhidum vaasaththil kannayarndhurangiduvaen
  vanjira meeninai poondra un kanngalum thunjida ithazh padhippaen
  konjidum kaigalai nenjinil serthunai manjaththil veezhthiduvaen
  thunjidum velayil thugilinai kalaindhu un mugaththinil mugam padhippaen
  
  en kaadhali !paaradi!
  idayinil yaazhisaippaen
  en kannmani!sugam tharum ponmani!
  iravinil unai anaippaen!
  
  (Manjariyey)
  
  Kaadhaliyey unai kaana "e"yandridin kaatrinil karaindhiduvaen
  Mohiniyey un azhaginukkey oru oviyum varaindhiduvaen
  kadalalai pondru un kavinmigu kaalgalai theendiyae magizhndhiduvaen
  kodiyenappadarnthu nee meniyai thazhuvida sugamathil amizhndhiduvaen
  
  (ilakkiya censor)
  
  Naam seyrvadhaal, soarvadhaal
  sorgamum theriyudhadi
  Naam vaazhvadhaal vazhndhu veezhvadhaal
  unnmayum puriyudhadi.
  
  (Manjariyey)"
  
  
  That is all. hope that is very revealing. Any takers ?
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Sat Nov 14 05:53:04 EST 1998
  
  MAY DAY
  MAY DAY
  wanted Mr Murali Sankar.
  in whichever corner of the world u are, please report to kodambakkam immediately. ur lyrical talents are badly needed here.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ ip204.sjc.primenet.com) on: Sat Nov 14 14:30:30 EST 1998
  
  kuzhambiya kuttai,
  Thanks a bunch. This is the best thread I've come across in weeks. Also thanks for bringing to light Murali Shankar's considerable talent.
  
  Murali Shankar I invite to join some of us in the poetry threads in the HUB. I think you would really dig it.
  
  I'll contribute in this thread later.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ wll087.wmlib.wmich.edu) on: Sat Nov 14 15:03:56 EST 1998
  
  I will change the lines
  
  paavai koondhal malargal edharkku
  kattil mele nasunga than(enne oru violentaana karpanai)
  in 'nenjinile' song to
  
  nangai konda naanam edharkku
  mannan vandhu vilakka thaan
  
  
• From: Observer (@ spider-te054.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Nov 14 16:12:41 EST 1998
  
  What is the meaning of "kunjairyey"?!
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.234) on: Sat Nov 14 16:45:58 EST 1998
  
  just another word for a girl with flowers, Observer.
  
  Hai Cram, thanx for the "hypered" praise. Thanx for the invitation Udhaya, i am very much eager to write in them. i shall do soon.
  
  regards
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
• From: Observer (@ spider-tl041.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Nov 14 18:59:18 EST 1998
  
  Thanks for letting me know a wonderful word. With my poor knowledge in tamil, I never new such a word existed with meaning !
  
  
• From: rofl (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Sat Nov 14 21:38:10 EST 1998
  
  ha ha ha ha just imagining how udit narayan will sing murali's song ha ha ha
  
  
• From: Shashi (@ eed02990.mayo.edu) on: Sun Nov 15 15:17:24 EST 1998
  
  Hi Ramki
  
  I too felt the same when I heard the lyrics you mentioned for "Nenjinile..." I fully support your substituion which sounds much better!!
  
  I had previously mentioned about changing the lines "Indhiran thotathu munthiriye, Manmatha naatukku manthiriye" to "Indhiran maadathu sunthariye, Manmathan Othidum manthirame".
  Somehow the original lines did not make much sense to me. Is there really a deeper meaning to these lines that I am missing?
  
  
• From: neruppu (@ auntbea.tch.uc.edu) on: Sun Nov 15 15:36:35 EST 1998
  
  to murali shanker. that was a stupendously great attempt. an excellent arrangement of some of the best poetic words in the language.
  in the stanza starting with "vanji un ...", 'manjathil veezhthiduven' seemed little out of place to me as i found it to be the only aggressive term in an array of very soft phrases.i felt something like "konchidum kaigalai nenjinil serthundhan valaikaram varudiduven" would fit in.just out of the top of my head!
  however my salutations again and do post more of your lyrics!
  
  
• From: murali Sankar (@ 129.252.26.37) on: Sun Nov 15 16:00:05 EST 1998
  
  thank you "fire" for suggestions.
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.26.37) on: Sun Nov 15 16:00:15 EST 1998
  
  thank you "fire" for suggestions.
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-03-13.sprint.ca) on: Sun Nov 15 23:04:07 EST 1998
  
  Murali that was some great work you did on that song, waiting for some more work from you.
  
  Lankathas.P
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Mon Nov 16 04:28:37 EST 1998
  
  i feel that the words "kalyana kalyana kanavu ennnuLLe" from `nenjinile" spill out of the tune's metre. maybe something like "solladi solladi en sakiye" might have fitted better. but of course, the earlier lines have to be changed too. namakku athellam varadhungOOOOO!
  murali, my praise was not fulsome, buddy. nothing 'hyper' about it.
  
  
• From: selvi (@ ) on: Wed Oct 16 01:23:47 EDT 2002
  
  to murali shankar,,,i need the vasigarae lyrics,
  please help me?
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Wed Oct 16 05:12:39 EDT 2002
  
  I feel the following way, if the song "daevan thandha veenai" of "unnai naan sandhiththaen" had been written it would have been nice:
  
  Actual version: Daevan thandha veenai adhil daevi saeidha ghaanam thaedum kaigaL thaedinaal adhil raagam indRi pogumo
  
  My version: Daevan thandha veenai adhil daevi saeidha ghaanam meetum kaigaL meetinaal adhil raagam indRi pogumo.
  
  
• From: Kodambakkam Kosaraju...a fanatic of Kavingar Kupps .. (@ 12.162.224.5) on: Fri Oct 18 20:59:50 EDT 2002
  
  Thalaivaaaaaaaaaaaaa..Kalakiteenga....Instead of working on weekends u can get in to the tamil film lyrics section..:-)
  
  

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