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TFM Book of Records!

Topic started by NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on Fri Apr 10 03:44:05 EDT 1998.
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Here is the place for us to compile records created by individuals, groups, movies, songs, etc. Everybody can pitch in and in the end, we will have a list that can be permanently displayed in the TFMP. Please remember to limit to TFM and related matters only.

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• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Apr 10 03:44:36 EDT 1998
  
  I was tossing and turning around at 2.00 am last night thinking of how to stir up some fun in TFM-DF that would be least controversial, fun-filled but a useful exercise. And then, bingo, it dawned on me that we haven't collected records before! :-)))
  
  Let's keep this thread participative and a good discussion forum please. Whatever that is contentious should be discussed, based entirely on facts. While a little joking around should be acceptable, try (very hard!) not to get dragged into non-constructive stuff such as "Most number of duds given by ------". :-))
  
  Okay enough with the lecture.
  There is no limit to the number of categories. We will all set the parameters as we go along. (Remember the Guinness BOR is hundreds of pages thick!) Once we are finished with this listing (?), or when we get tired of it (whichever comes first). I will volunteer to compile it for the TFMG to do as they think fit.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Apr 10 03:45:26 EDT 1998
  
  Let me begin with some simple ones to give everyone an idea. (Please embolden the record-creators to differentiate from the rest of discussions.)
  
  1. Most number of movies scored by a single Music Director: Maestro Ilayaraaja ... 730 (and still growing)
  
  2. Most number of Music Directors in single movie: Kannil Theriyum Katahigal ... Five (IR, SG - who are the other three?)
  
  
  Categories for contention
  
  Most number of duets: Is it TMS & PS or SPB & SJ?
  Most number of songs in a movie: Ninaithaaley inikkum or some other old movie?
  Most number of playback singers in single movie: Deivam or Thirumalai Deivam?
  Least number of songs in a single movie: Sigappu Rojakkal ... Two (Any movies with only one or half song? Movies without songs of course are a different category altogether.)
  
  Samples of other categories
  Longest/Shortest song ever recorded
  Most number of singers in a single song
  Maximum number of times one song appears in a movie
  Maximum variations of a single song
  
  
  As you can see, the potential is tremendous. SO, let's get going ... and have some fun, in the process. :-)))
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Fri Apr 10 04:17:36 EDT 1998
  
  NOV, Here are a few more categories with some nominees.
  
  Longest Director/MD combination : KB & MSV/Bharathiraja & IR/SP Muthuraman & IR ?
  Largest MD/Lyricist combination : MSV & Kannadasan/MSV,TKR & Kannadasan/IR & Vaali/IR & Vairamuthu ?
  Director who has worked with most number of MDs :
  V. Azhagappan (SAR, CB, IR, RDB, GA, TR,...)/Ramanarayanan(IR, SG, SAR, Deva, GA,...)/KB(VK, MSV, VSN, IR, MM, Deva, ARR, LP, ...)/Bharathiraja(IR, Devendran, Hamsalekha, Vidyasagar, Deva, ARR, ...)/K. S. Ravikumar (IR, SAR, Soundaryan, ARR, Deva, Sirpi, ...)/SPM (IR, SG, MSV, SPB, Ravindran, CB, ...) ?
  
  IR : Ilaiyaraja, ARR : A. R. Rahman, SAR : S. A. Rajkumar, TR : T. Rajendar, VK : V. Kumar, MSV : M. S. Viswanathan, TKR : T. K. Ramamurthy, MM : Maragathamani, SG : Shankar-Ganesh, CB : Chandra Bose, GA : Gangai Amaran, LP : Laxmikant-Pyarelal, KB : K. Balachander, SPM : S. P. Muthuraman, SPB : S. P. Balasubramaniam
  
  
• From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com) on: Fri Apr 10 08:59:23 EDT 1998
  
  Most number of songs in a movie: Ninaithaaley inikkum or some other old movie?
  
  Haridas/Sivakavi ellam movie-aaga theriyavillaiyA ?
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.140.78) on: Fri Apr 10 09:35:43 EDT 1998
  
  Max number of songs : Definitely not Ninaithaale inikkum! for e.g, I have counted > 25 songs in 1000 thalai vaangiya apoorva sigaamani. Probably experts like Manisegaran can give exact figures.
  
  max num of singers in a movie: How about Rakshagan? There are about 15-20 singers.
  
  Longest song: "veenai kodiyudaya vendhane"(sampoorna raamaayanam)
  
  max variations of a single song: "neeyenge en ninaivigal ange" (mannippu)
  
  
• From: gOpAl (@ 1cust212.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Fri Apr 10 09:35:48 EDT 1998
  
  Nov:
  These, I think, are potential stuff:
  
  Songs written in short duration : Chinnathambi? One movie for which kannadhAsan wrote while traveling?
  
  Quick BGM scores must be with Raaja. But how do you get those stats?
  
  I stereo recording : Priya
  I overseas recording : Priya?
  Most number of instruments in one song: ???(MSV?)
  Most violins in one song : Thalapathi?
  Most expensive song : adhisayam song in Jeans?
  First 'computerized' song in tfm :yenna saththam indha nEram, punnagai mannan (??)
  
  
  
  
• From: arvind (@ nhv-ct1-10.ix.netcom.com) on: Fri Apr 10 16:38:02 EDT 1998
  
  1. maximum songs in a movie is sivakavi 54 songs
  
  
  
  
• From: arvind (@ nhv-ct1-10.ix.netcom.com) on: Fri Apr 10 16:38:31 EDT 1998
  
  1. maximum songs in a movie is sivakavi 54 songs
  
  
  movies with no songs is out of the scope of TFM(except for BGM)
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 132.minneapolis-06.mn.dial-access.att.net) on: Fri Apr 10 17:53:12 EDT 1998
  
  Hi
  1. The song that took the most recording time
  Kadaul amaitha vaitha medai - 20-23 DAYS.
  in Aval our thodarkathai.
  Music MSV
  
  2. Shortest album released ULAGAM SUTRUM VALIBAN
  ONE WEEK for all the songs. -
  Music MSV.
  
  3. Song with maximum number of instruments
  Enge nimathee - MSV/TKR
  
  4. Song with Minium number of instruments
  Ponal pogatum poda - MSV /TKR
  
  
  
• From: Nithin (@ nc36.pr.mcs.net) on: Sat Apr 11 01:49:46 EDT 1998
  
  Pl;ease don't foget that one in a zillion composition:
  
  O Nenjame Ithu Un Raagame (Ennakagu kKathiru) There is a legend behind that interludes, which is easily one of the finest that man has ever written, whether be it an overture, symphony, poem or a ballad. The interludes in this legendary is, according to me, is like Brahma having completed his creation of this universe!
  
  The song, I hear, has the maximum number of instruments, violins and re-recording time. ( I believe, thanks to Deepan Chakravarthy!!! No malice meant here.)
  
  
• From: easwaran hariharan (@ ww-ti05.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Apr 11 02:28:26 EDT 1998
  
  Nov,
  It is a great topic. thanks for opening it.
  
  what about these, can they be included here?
  
  1. First song to use drums in TFM
  Yaradi Nee Mohini - Uttamaputran
  2. first director to score music also
  Veenai balachandar
  3. first md to write his own lyrics -
  Was it IR?
  4. MDs who never sang any song - KVM, VK, and
  some of the older mds.
  5. Directors who worked with few MDS ( atleast
  directed 5 films)
  2 mds
  bhimsingh - VK-MSV, MSV
  Mouli - Shyam, IR (anne anne)
  Balumahendra - IR, Salilchowdary
  A.C.ThiruLogosundar - MSV, C.Vedha
  Manirathnam - IR, ARR
  APN - KVM, K.Vaidhyanathan
  Vikraman - SKR, ARR (pudiya mannargal)
  
  Only one MD
  RVUdayakumar - IR
  Mahendran - IR
  Agaithiyan - Deva
  
  6. Films where all the diff male singers for each
  of the song
  MMMK - kamal, mano, SPB, MV
  
  Longest period a hero used only one md for his
  films -
  Kamal - IR from 1983 ( last not ir film - simla special ) - Nammavar - 1994 ( excluding pesum padam, as it is not a orig tamil film)
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: pg (@ client-116-10.bellatlantic.net) on: Sat Apr 11 08:11:07 EDT 1998
  
  Mahendran is working with bAlabhArathi for his 'sAsanam'.
  
  I think RVU did not use IR for one of his movies. I can't remember the movie.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Apr 11 11:34:47 EDT 1998
  
  e-hari: I think Papanasam Sivam would be the first MD to set tune to his own lyrics.
  pg: RVU's first movie padam pEr ngyabagam varlai.. had Manoj-Giyan as the MDs. I think the movie is uruthi mozhi.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Apr 11 11:35:50 EDT 1998
  
  e-hari:6. There is a song by IR also - katha kELu.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Apr 11 12:22:09 EDT 1998
  
  pg: the movie is urimai geetham?
  
  
• From: easwaran hariharan (@ ww-tj05.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Apr 12 01:36:04 EDT 1998
  
  ravi,
  U are right. I forget about urimai geetham. Did
  his second film ( starring sivaji and satyaraj, I
  guess), also by manoj gyan.
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ wmu-51-10.tm.net.my) on: Sun Apr 12 08:25:40 EDT 1998
  
  Let me give a few firsts.
  
  1. The first Tamil film, we all know is Kaildass of 1931 release. Two persons wrote songs in the film, one is Baskaradass, the other is Nadarajachary. But Bhaskaradass is said to be the first to have written sings in that movie, and those songs were sung by the beggers in the streets as they were that pupular.
  That first song by Bhaskaradass is:
  
  "Indiyarkal Namavarkkul Eno Veen Sandai"
  
  2. The first film to have the most number of songs is India Saba of 19324 release. There were a total of 71 songs in the film.
  
  3. The first to actor to have written songs is PTV Krishnan. He acted in the film called "Mahatma Kabeerdass" in 1936 and also wrote songs.
  
  4. The first person to have acted, composed songs and acted was M.R.Swaminathan. In the old "Sakunthalai" he composed songs and sang as well.The song is:
  Kalaiyiley Ezhunthirunthu
  Kanchi Thanni Illamaley
  Kashtappadaren Kadavuley
  This song was so polpular that Mellisai Mannar used to sing it at the age off 12.
  
  
  5. Later SS Rajendran composed a song which was sung by TMS in the film called Vazhikaatti. The song is
  Thayai Kandathillai
  Thanthayai Paarthathillai
  
  6. We call the actor-cum politician T.Rajendar as the Sakala Kala Vallavan, all because he does multi-works in his films. In the early days there was a novelist and an orator called A. Ratnasababathy who wrote story, dialogue, songs and acted in the film called "Danger Signal" anddirected it. He is undoubtedly the original Sagala Kala Vallavan.
  
  7.It used to be thought that Roshana Begum is the first lady to have composed songs for movies, citing the Kungumap Pottin Mangalam from Kudiyiruhta Koyil. But as early as 1949 Director K. Subramaniam's wife Meenatchy Subramaniam of Nagappattinam had composed a song for the film "Seethakathy" The song is:
  "
  Aaru Mani Nerathukku Mel Velai Seivom"
  
  8. The first Aasthana Kavignar(regional) to have written story and composed song for movies was Magaraja Vaathiyar of Ettayappuram. He wrote story for the film Thayalan and wrote songs as well. PU Chinnappa acted in that film
  
  9. The first film to have used resemblance of Tamil literature was "Nalla Thangal" of 1935. Vidvan Paramakkudy Sivaramalingam wrote a song as follows:
  Oru Uromam Ponalum Kavarimaaan Uyir Vazhadu"
  This is a lifting from the thirukkural which goes as follows:
  
  "Mayir Neeppin Vaazhak Kavarimaan
  Annar Uyir Neeppin Maanam Varin"
  
  10. The first Seerthirutha Paadal was used in a ilm called "Bakthesa". One Papabansan Rajagopalaiyar wrote a song as follows:
  
  Natta Kallai Theivamenbaar
  Kettikkarar Peraiya
  Sutta Kallai Pechiyenil
  Suvargalin Per Ennada..
  
  11. The first song to have been picturised totally outdoor was a song by Suratha in a film called "En Thangai". That was also the first song by Surada. The song which as picturised in Santhome beach is:
  
  Aadum Oonjalai Poley
  Alai aaduthey..
  
  12. The first song to be used as a playback song in Tamil cinema history is from the MGR film Rajakumari. The MD is SM SUbbiah Naidu.It is also the first cinema song for Tiruchy Loganathan. T.L sang for MN Nambiyar.The song is:
  
  "Kasinimel Nangal Vaazhvathey"
  
  13. The first film to be shot overseas(London) was Navayuvan in 1936, starred by VV Sadakoban.
  
  14. The songs to have used most number of instruments range as follows:
  
  a. Engey Nimmathy (Puthiya Paravai)used 70 instruments
  b. Pattathu Raani Paarkum Parvai(Sivantha Mann) used 131 instruments
  
  c. Ninaithathai Nadathiyey Mudippavan(Nam Naadu) used 126 instruments.
  
  d. Ponnanthi Maalai Pozhuthu( Idaya Veenai) also used many instruments.
  
  Of course the first to have used most instruments is Engey Nimmathee
  
  15. The films that never cut discs were Kalai Arasi and Sithoor Rani Pathmani
  
  16. There are two songs sung by Seergazhi Govindarajan as well as Tiruchy LOganathan. Records are available for both these singers. But only songs by SG were used in the film called Gomathiyin Kaathal. The songs are:
  a) Vaanameethil Neenthiyodum Venilavey
  b) Kongunaatu Chengarumbey Thangachilayey
  
  See you all tomorrow. Regards
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ webgate6.mot.com) on: Mon Apr 13 00:27:44 EDT 1998
  
  PG, Ravi, Hari :
  RVU has worked with other MDs also. Urimai Geetham (Manoj-Gyan), Pudhiya Vaanam (Hamsalekha), Subhash (Vidyasagar), etc.
  
  As for the longest actor-MD partnership, Kamal & IR seem to be the favourites, but how about Sivaji & MSV partnership ?
  
  I think the first "computerized" song was the "Vikram" song.
  
  Gopal, I got your email. I have sent you a reply too.
  
  

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