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ARR for KM

Topic started by NagasubramaniaN (@ fw.baan.nl) on Tue Sep 15 10:05:36 EDT 1998.
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hai all.,
ARE U READY TO HEAR A SHOCKING NEWS
ARR IS THE MD FOR HINDHI VERSION OF KM
HOW WILL THE SONGS BE ?
GIVE UR COMMENTS PLEASE
NAGASUBRAMANIAN

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Responses:

• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Sep 15 11:10:20 EDT 1998
  
  NS: I am sure ARR will handle it in his own way. Lets not talk about the Hindi FM here. So let the focus be how ARR would have handled the song situations in KM.
  (I am sure current HFM fans are ecstatic about this news and certainly wouldn't find it shocking. :-).
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.pdx.intel.com) on: Tue Sep 15 13:33:46 EDT 1998
  
  Who is the director for hindi version of KM?
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Tue Sep 15 16:52:36 EDT 1998
  
  PLEASE SKIP THIS IF U R NOT JOBLESS!!!
  
  imagine: the heroine for the hindi version is urmila, skimpily dressed as usual. the hero is govinda. manivannan's role is done by kader khan. direction : david dhavan. music by ARR.
  story : govinda is an illiterate. he keeps a bet with a friend and comes to study in town , lkg.
  there , he meets urmila, who is a model. then we have a song here.(similar to oh, baby , baby).
  the song is a punjabi song, of which ARR seems to be so fond of , and has govinda lifting his shirt and gyrating. then, these two become lovers and roam around in honolulu. we can have a song there, similar to the one in daud. the hindi version of "ennai thaalaatta varuvaalo" is a song similar to "sayoneeeeee". the song similar to "ayya veedu",
  is something like "nee kattum selai madippile", with govinda and samantha fox dancing. then the pair separate. and what happens is that there will be a big fight between two villages and govinda will finally get hold of urmila after 15 minutes of fighting. movie over. BGM can be taken from any of ARR's songs, they all sound the same, and can be reused for another song later.
  
  
• From: A Fan (@ chcgb204-30.splitrock.net) on: Tue Sep 15 19:57:19 EDT 1998
  
  Balaji
  
  Proud of you, yexcellent, it is very funny and very possible
  
  
• From: A Fan (@ chcgb203-14.splitrock.net) on: Wed Sep 16 00:11:10 EDT 1998
  
  If ARR can come have unebelieavable interludes like in yennai thalatta varuvalo or in oh baby, baby, then only he will get my praise. no thaiyaa, thaiyaa type or humma humma type interludes.
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.23.156) on: Wed Sep 16 00:15:21 EDT 1998
  
  Interludennu solli ARR eppavum oru flutai oodugiraar. Andha maadhiri floutai kettu kettu maraththu pochchu kaadhu.
  
  Amavasaiyum abdul qaderum kettirukeengala ?
  adhu maadhiri ARR um KM um
  
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Sep 16 02:43:37 EDT 1998
  
  Mr.jobless: it need not be fully true. the movie itself might be modified enough in hindi, to let ARR make his standard interludes, and songs beginning with catchy phrases. who knows, the movie might have dauuuuuud kind of music!!!!
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ inet35.us.oracle.com) on: Wed Sep 16 14:13:46 EDT 1998
  
  I remember somewhere reading that "Doli Sajaake Rakhna" is the remake of KM with Priyadarshan directing it!!
  
  I am not 100% sure...
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Thu Sep 17 01:34:20 EDT 1998
  
  priyadarshan directing a fasil film?? will be a big contrast. fasil is one who relies heavily on story and screenplay. his settings, visuals and histrionics are ordinary(he deliberately underplays them). priyadarshan on the other hand is similar to shankar. he thinks big, his visuals are rich and he has used sabu cyril to very high limits. so, if what srikanth says is true, we will have an interesting time comparing the two films.
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ slip-32-101-16-193.il.us.ibm.net) on: Thu Sep 17 08:49:57 EDT 1998
  
  Hi
  Songs wise Arr might shine with his jazzy work,
  
  For the last scene re-recording! he wil make sure there is no last scene. Arr is total waste in re-recording. So KM in hindi will become a "Chitrahar" with (few-if by Mani rathnam) dialogs.
  
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: NagasubramaniaN (@ fw.baan.nl) on: Thu Sep 17 09:49:43 EDT 1998
  
  hai all.,
  srikkanth's news is true.,
  actually i made a big mistake ., i should have given full details about hte movie when i started the query itself., sorry for that
  'doli sajake rakna' is the hindhi remake of KM., priyadarshan is the Director & ARR the MD
  sorry again
  NagasubramaniaN
  
  
  
• From: NagasubramaniaN (@ fw.baan.nl) on: Thu Sep 17 09:50:06 EDT 1998
  
  hai all.,
  srikkanth's news is true.,
  actually i made a big mistake ., i should have given full details about hte movie when i started the query itself., sorry for that
  'doli sajake rakna' is the hindhi remake of KM., priyadarshan is the Director & ARR the MD
  sorry again
  NagasubramaniaN
  
  
  
• From: Keys (@ n01048-lau1.unity.ncsu.edu) on: Fri Sep 18 16:36:35 EDT 1998
  
  I think there is a huge mistake here. With all this ARR bashing that is going on. Guys, wake up! I think we are missing one major point here. ARR is the only MD who is churning out internationally palatable film music here. Besides, he is exceptionally talented, and has the right mix of both music and engineering. I fell that given some time, and some experimentation, which I guess he is a bit scared to do now, we will have someone who we can all be proud of, and pride about to others.
  
  Keys
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Fri Sep 18 19:30:58 EDT 1998
  
  keys: "given some time"!!! ARR is the one who takes maximum time for composing his songs. the time factor should not be a major one. the stories of IR composing songs for "chinna thambi" in hours, "vizhiyil vizhundhu" on the fly , are part of the folklore. so, the excuse that ARR , given time and some experimentation , can do well , is wrong. it is just that he is not trying!!!
  if ARR rises up to the level you say, we all will be happy. so, please take this as constructive criticism and not otherwise.
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Fri Sep 18 20:28:08 EDT 1998
  
  "internationallly palatable music" - NOOOOOO I never play ARR music when my North American friends are around. I am not sure whether they have been lifted from somewhere. Or atleast the style is not Indian. I comfortably play IRs music when people are around. For eg. when I played 'Mozart, I love you' from NBW by friends immediately say 'thats Mozart'. (I introduce IR as one who has been influenced by /likes Mozart).
  
  The other day I went to a Moroccan restaurant and I heard some music very similar to one of the Bombay songs. Maybe ARR did not copy fully but just vending other/foreign style music locally is not what I am terribly proud of. Mind you I am not saying he is not talented. But one has got to have a mind/style.
  
  
• From: neeks (@ host67066.cfu.net) on: Fri Sep 18 22:10:40 EDT 1998
  
  All I play around my North American friends is AR Rahman music. They are all very into music, two of them majoring in music, and they have not pointed parts of his songs as lifts.
  
  
• From: neeks (@ host67066.cfu.net) on: Fri Sep 18 22:11:47 EDT 1998
  
  All I play around my North American friends is AR Rahman music. They are all very into music, two of them majoring in music, and they have not pointed parts of his songs as lifts. I personally think that Rahmans music sounds Indian, not like he is vending foreign styles of music.
  
  
• From: bala (@ 129.219.38.214) on: Tue Nov 3 06:14:54 EST 1998
  
  Yup,
  same here. i play only ARR songs to my canadian prof. he immediately starts tapping his feet, almost involuntarily. he was amazed by the variety of his music. i played his 'not-so-popular' numbers to him. still he liked it. immediately he brought his colleagues and told'em all about the music. i had to get him a CD of ARR. he does have the 'indianness' in his music plus enuf stuff to impress anyone outside TN border.
  
  coming back to KM's version in hindi, i thought the obvious choice was ARR. IR's music is typically South Indianish. i dont say it's wrong. i spend a good number of hours listening to IR's lovely songs, but the international appeal is certainly with ARR.
  
  ok, folks,
  ciao,
  bala
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.172) on: Tue Nov 3 08:01:48 EST 1998
  
  I heard a song "Khoya Khoya Rahta hai" in the album Doli Sajaake Rakhna (KM) and found the same to be almost on the lines of "Kuchi Kuchi Rakkamma" from Bombay. I feel sorry for Rahman, cos this is reason enough for the B-grade music directors making half-baked (and unoriginal) tunes in HFM to go on and on about ARR's so called repetition! I wonder why he did that.
  
  Even the guys who review HFM have said things like 'Netru Illada Maatram' (its Hindi version, ofcourse) sounds like Chinna Chinna aasai, which any lay person can say is untrue. Well, with guys out there waiting to pounce on you, you gotta be careful. Hope ARR is careful in his future ventures.
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ mailserver01.sb.com) on: Tue Nov 3 08:09:27 EST 1998
  
  Just like you have an one dog study and make this big conclusion...I have given tamil songs like Thendral vandhu from Avatharam, Ponmalai Pozhudu from Nizhalgal, Katril from Johnny, Konji Konji from Veera to my american friends and they just are amazed at Ilayaraja and his creativity and are big fans.
  
  So dont give this BS about ARR and Variety (ha..ha) and somehow he is the favorite of international folks..I am amazed how sudeenly because of one candian incident, there has to be a disapraging statement on IR...I could have made similar observations on my american experience saying because of my friends experience with Ir, now all america loves him
  
  
• From: UV (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Nov 3 08:11:11 EST 1998
  
  bala,
  Don't play too much of his songs to ur prof.If at all he comes to know of the originals, think what his opinion about an indian will be??? ;-)
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ wat-surf.watcom.on.ca) on: Tue Nov 3 12:36:39 EST 1998
  
  Okay, ARR has many beatsy tunes. Today in North America beats are really popular, especially among the youth. Play IRs music to somebody who knows western classical or jazz music. They would appreciate his orchestration. Also, I have seen people impressed by his guitar work. Mind you it is not that patronising kind of 'i like that music' they are totally taken aback by his skills on guitar that they almost feel he is on par with the guitar greats in North America.
  
  Anyways, ARR may sound indian, still I am unable to place the soul in his music.
  
  Well I am not saying we need appreciation from some white folks. Just that they could be a possible source of unbiased opinion.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Nov 3 13:18:12 EST 1998
  
  Krishna: Pl. temper your language.
  Pl. limit discussion on ARR's new albums to the ARR's new albums thread. That way people will know where to look for it.
  Also this discussion on ARR and IR might be more appropriate in the Impact of TFM on other communities thread.
  
  

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